View source for Team Fortress Wiki talk:Wiki Cap

{{ambox|type=notice-2|image=Pictogram_info.png|contents='''Please use this page to discuss the article''' and don't ask if you will get one. Thanks.}}

== TF2 Wiki edits ==

Do the guidelines here count edits from back when this was TF2 Wiki?  I'm going to make a wild guess and say no, but I'd like some confirmation of this.
--[[User:Powerlord|Powerlord]] 18:53, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
:If you have an account on the old wiki it will be taken into consideration but ideally it's meant to reward recent edits. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 18:54, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
::I was about to ask the same thing heh [[User:MK|MK]] 03:26, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== bad english ==

sorry, but my english is not great
whats does this mean?:
    * Demonstrate a strong desire to help improve and update the Wiki through useful edits and contributions.
    * Participate in the community by contributing to discussion. We also have an IRC channel where you can get to know and become part of the regulars!
    * Adhere to the policies and practices of the Official Team Fortress 2 Wiki, including observing the style guide and the official policies.
   Properly implement licenses on images, sounds, and any other kinds of uploads, media or otherwise. 

i wish i could get it. but i just have 100 edits. working on translations. and i have no idea what this means.<small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Jem|Jem]] ([[User talk:Psychopath|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/Jem|contribs]]) </small>
: The first part means that you show ''dedication'' in your work, and you try to talk to others about your edits, on talk pages, etc. to make sure your edits are good. The second is a bit of the same line, talk to other editors! Discuss your edits with others to make sure you're doing the right thing. A wiki is useless if we don't talk together. The third is pretty simple&mdash;follow the rules as they're put in place, as opposed to going around and implementing new styles constantly. We need consistency. The final you mention simply has to do with licensing and categorising images properly whenever you upload them, so you don't leave others to go around and pick up the pieces to make sure things are licensed and categorised properly. There's [[Team Fortress Wiki:Images|more information]] about that particular topic. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 19:59, 6 November 2010 (UTC)


ok, then all is good for me. noy, need 300 more edits:(
but, i am dutch so i go further with translating [[User:Jem|Jem]] 20:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

== The Jig is up Smashman ==

[14:53] <Psychopath> Smashman, You know that people will do anything for a hat, so you give some criteria for contributions that are HELPFUL, the only way to get the hat is to be HELPFUL. The mindless spammers will become more intelligent in their conquest for said hat. Mission F*CKING ACCOMPLISHED!

--[[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]]
:It is rumble. &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<span class="mod">Smashman</span>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{mod}} 20:00, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
:For those that don't get the reference: http://xkcd.com/810/ --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] 20:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

==Grammatical Error==
Normally, I'd fix something like this myself, but it seems I don't have the permission to edit this page.  The following sentence is missing a word.
    *Our resident bot WindBOT periodically compiles a list potential candidates based on a number of rules.
Instead, it should be:
    *Our resident bot WindBOT periodically compiles a list '''of''' potential candidates based on a number of rules.
Obviously, the 'of' does not need to be bold.
[[User:Magnum357|Magnum357]] 00:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:{{c|Done}}: Thanks. &ndash; [[User:Smashman|<span class="mod">Smashman</span>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{mod}} 11:18, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

==Further Clarification==
There were a few people in the IRC who thought that only 1 person is getting a hat per week, limiting to 52 people getting a wiki cap per year. Read the final line on the page:
*<b>At least one</b> Wiki Cap will be distributed per week. This means the hat is accessible and regularly available.
That means that anyone who qualifies for a wiki cap and is "aok'd" by the staff <i>should</i> be receiving a wiki cap on that given week. I recommend the wiki cap guidelines page have that highlighted in bold or something so people stop brewing up misconceptions.
[[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 01:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:{{c|done}} :) -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 01:19, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

==Question No.2==

I want to know if is it needed to have the same email adress as your steam login to get the wiki cap. I have a different one here, but the username/loginname is the same. Never thought about that before, and i don't think i will get a wiki cap in the next 3month; but i would like to ask about how do you get your cap first, not that i'm afraid that you leave me out :)

NoWhereMan/Godlike11219 11:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

:If I understand the way things work correctly, you will be contacted by the Wiki staff for your steam id, it's not tied to sharing the same username, login name, nor your email address. Hope that helped clear up any misconceptions. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 19:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== Starting to edit stuff. ==

To beggin with, i'm not to good at english, soo... yeah...

So i just started to translate this wiki in to Swedish, i rly want the cap. :P.
But after i got it hopefylly translating as long as i can, as thanks for a great, awesome game!

One thing i don't understand is this:

# Adhere to the policies and practices of the Official Team Fortress 2 Wiki, including observing the style guide and the official policies.


And about these ones:

# Properly implement licenses on images, sounds, and any other kinds of uploads, media or otherwise.
# Demonstrate a strong desire to help improve and update the Wiki through useful edits and contributions.
# Participate in the community by contributing to discussion. We also have an IRC channel where you can get to know and become part of the regulars!

How do you decide if im done this stuff?


I hope you understand what i want to know, and i'll reply if you answer me cuz there is probably more thing i want to know, [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Koopos Koopos]   Koopos 14:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


== How close Am I to get the Wiki cap? ==

Ive edited alot of stuff before we even know how to get the Cap, and now Im creating and translating stuff to Czech. Ive created more then 10 hat pages (And ill do more) and the main page for the Soldier and The Spy in Czech.  Good or bad? {{unsigned|Hilarious Pill}}
: [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Team_Fortress_Wiki:Wiki_Cap_guidelines#Eligibility_guidelines Please read the guidelines]. Also remember to sign your post with 4 tildes, like this '''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''' --[[User:Picard|Picard]] ({{sta}} | [[User talk:Picard|talk]]) 16:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== Does it matter how significant an edit/addition is? ==

Example: I just edited a page, I added a fullstop where one was not present. I presume thats quite insignificant, so will it be counted? --[[User:Flf4sgam3r|Flf4sgam3r]] 20:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:You improved the Wiki. Edits like that are counted. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 20:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

==Wiki Hat Revocation?==
This has been of primary interest since the Wiki Hat first came out. Naturally, some will work at earning the hat just long enough to actually get the hat, then, once they've earned it, they'll disappear forever; given this situation, will Wiki hats ever be revoked or are they permanent? <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Fox McCloud|Fox McCloud]] ([[User talk:Fox McCloud|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/Fox McCloud|contribs]])  21:26, 7 November 2010 </small>
: Permanent. [[User:Daff|Daff]] 20:27, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:: As far as I can see, if anyone were to have gotten to the position where they deserve a wiki cap, they will have earnt it and contributed well to the wiki. Mission, fucking, accomplished.--<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span>  [[Help:Group rights|<span class="burbg">s</span>]] 20:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Obviously they are permanent dude. [[User:Swordz|Swordz]] 20:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: If someone were to do that, they still contributed for 2+ months for 400+ edits. If they turned around and started vandalizing the site, however, I could imagine a revoke possibly being in order. But what are the odds of someone being <i>that</i> spiteful? [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 20:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::They are permanent; there is have no ability for Wiki staff to remove items from people's backpack, anyway. If users go bad, they get blocked. One can simply hope that having a shiny cap on their head will give them a reason enough to not be that stupid~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 03:47, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== A little much? ==

I don't mean to question the command here, but doesn't 400 solid edits seem like a little much? I mean, I understand dedication and what not, but I usually play TF2 more than I am here on the wiki. --[[User:Renaman|Renaman]] 03:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
:As someone who is seeking a Wiki Cap as well, I don't consider it too many edits. You also have to note minimum amount of days you have to be around to get the cap. If you just do 10 edits a day, minor, major, trivia undoes, you'll hit that mark eventually. It's meant to be something for someone who has contributed a quality and quantity amount of work to be considered someone of the community. [[User:Serg|Serg]] 03:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::The fact that they are given out weekly should be good justification for a solid number of contributions. There's no need for everyone who gets one to get one right away. [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 03:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC) And darn you Serg, I got an edit conflict
:::Yes, I understand that with time the 400 edits would come quickly, it's just that I'm not sure if my edits will be considered quality. They are mostly just correcting spelling errors, such as missing an "a" in "and." --[[User:Renaman|Renaman]] 03:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::::To be fair, you also have to take in to consideration two things: 1)It IS a community item, and therefore is given as a reward for being a valuable contributor to the Wiki/community, so in that respect 400 seems like a more than reasonable requierment. And 2) If it was easy to get one and the requirements for obtaining the cap were a little more lax, we'd have trivia spammers left and right. (>Implying we don't have them already.) Also, quality edits don't have to be major edits like page creating or anything. They could be trivia removal and such. -- [[User:Krizzle 0|Krizzle 0]] 03:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Would user page edits be considered? Just wondering. [[User:CANPoo|CANPoo]] 03:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have to ask, you'll probably be not a good wiki cap candidate. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 04:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Sorry that came out wrong. No they won't count is what I meant. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 04:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm pretty sure that user page edits, user talk page edits, and general talk page edits (like this page) do not count. Dammit Mouseekateer, causing edit conflict >:C [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 04:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

==How does getting one work?==

Say that I am chosen to get one (which I know will never happen) How do I get it, then? Does the bot E-mail me to get My steam username, or does it assume My steam and wiki Accounts use the same E-mail address? [[User:FYI I Am Some Guy|FYI I Am Some Guy]] 02:15 PM, November 8th (EST)
:You'd get contacted by a staff member, probably on your talk page. --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] {{sta}} <sup>([[User_talk:CruelCow|talk]])</sup> 20:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::"which I know will never happen." No need to be so negative about it. Everyone who edits here has a shot at getting one, including you. Remember, this isn't a game of chance. As for how do you get it? The staff will figure that out. When we choose someone, we'll make sure they are aware of it. As CruelCow said, we'll let them know on their talk page. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 20:22, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::: The reason I am so negative is because I have severe doubts that the bot will pick me of how many people there are editing articles on this website. I have not been here for 2 months, I have only edited around seven articles, and most of those edits were erased later. I just feel like my chances of getting one are too slim.
::::So you keep trying.  That said, being here simply for the hat destroys the purpose of the hat anyway, so make sure you know of your reasons. --[[User:General coolio|General coolio]] 22:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well if anyone is just here for the hat, the only way they can get it is by being useful. It's all a part of Smashman's master plan as seen above on this talk page. [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 22:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== Sign translated articles? ==

I translated some hats into german, but i don't know some essential things on the wiki page. I translated from original english one. So do i need to sign that i'm responsible for this, or does the wiki owner's see i'm the guy with the bad translation and he pwn's me when i'm alone in the dark *afraid* . Or the other way did they see my great delicious and awesome work without signing the article xD ? 
How does this work i don't understand that yet.