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You are man of few words. But alot of letters.--[[User:Tribestone|Tribestone]] 17:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
== Foster's Facade ==
It's obvious from the rollbacks on your addition to the [[Foster's Facade]]'s trivia section that people don't agree with your opinion.  Why not try consulting the editors on the talk page instead of edit warring? --[[User:Fragment of Nothing|Fragment of Nothing]] 03:18, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Foster's Facade Trivia ==

Hello, recently you have been repeatedly posting the same trivia item to the [[Foster's Facade]] article, even though it has been removed more than twice.
"Equipping the Foster's Facade will remove a nozzle from Pyro's default gas mask."
The Foster's Facade is an entirely new gas mask on top of the Pyro's original one, therefore this does not apply.
Please read the [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Help:Style_guide/Trivia Trivia Style guide] before posting more trivia, it's a great page to learn what is accepted as proper trivia here on the Wiki. [[User:Kryzoid|Kryzoid]] 03:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Clearing your Userpage ==

Please do not clear your userpage, we use it for informational and logging purposes. If you wish to have it somewhere else, you can archive it the same way that I do on my talk page, this will keep things cleaner and us moderators happy! Thanks! --[[File:User Firestorm Flame.png]] [[User:Firestorm|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]]</span> 00:01, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

== Show preview ==

[[File:Information.png|25px]] Please make use of the '''Show preview''' button. It gives you a preview of the edit you make, allowing you to perfect it before you save the page. &mdash;&nbsp; [[User:Nero123|<span style="color:#FF9B00;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Nero123</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">([[User talk:Nero123|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nero123|contribution]])</span> 22:09, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
::I'm sorry. I always use the preview button, I just have a habit of catching changes I'd like to make my third or fourth read-over. I'll take it slower. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:11, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Ok, thx. [[User:Nero123|<span style="color:#FF9B00;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Nero123</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">([[User talk:Nero123|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nero123|contribution]])</span> 05:51, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

== Gir ==

Thanks for correcting the name of that character. I knew it was from Invader Zim ''(not from the show, but from a YouTube video showcasing all the models in the Alpha)'', but I forgot it was actually "Gir". Thanks again! [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 00:05, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

::No worries, guy. Nice work on the alpha page! [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 00:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

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== Trivia ==

[[File:Information.png|25px]]  Many of your recent posts in the trivia sections have been reverted on account of irrelevancy, inaccuracy and/or speculation.  Please read the [[Help:Style guide/Trivia|Trivia Style Guide]] before posting in trivia sections in the future. Thank you.   {{n}}[[File:User_Ohyeahcrucz_Sig.png|20px|sub]] [[User:Ohyeahcrucz|<span style="text-shadow:blue 0px 0px 0px;font-size:13px;font-family: Tf2 Build"><font color="blue">Ohyeahcrucz]]</font></span>  <span style="font-size:10px;font-weight:bold;font-family: helvetica"><font color="black"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Ohyeahcrucz|T]]<nowiki>][</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Ohyeahcrucz|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></font></span> 22:41, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

==Unnecessary Edits==
I've noticed that quite a few of your edits have involved replaceing "it" with the full name of the item in question in the first paragraph of an item page - this is a tad unnecessary and makes the first paragraph read badly. It's futile to try and edit every page in this way, and I don't want to chase you around undoing your edits, so please take note of this. On another note, the quotations you added to the Item Sets page made me laugh. Keep up the good work! - '''[[User:Cooper Kid|Cooper Kid]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]])'''·'''([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 11:19, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
:Early in my life, I was taught that referring to objects or people with pronouns was against the rules. Overuse of pronouns can confuse a reader, and the reader can lose track of what the writer was actually referring to. For example if you read the sentence "The Spy should sap the Sentry, then quickly backstab the Engineer before he can unsap the Sentry to kill you. If he can take it off of it, then it can kill you before you can kill him or escape." You'd have no idea what the writer was referring to with those those instances of the word "it". However, this is supposed to be an encyclopedia. That fact kind of supports both our sides. Constant clarity is important, but articles are about a specified subject, and I don't typically avoid pronouns when it's already clear what the sentence is about. I'll see if I can work around things and make my edits a bit shorter, but you'll have to excuse me if I can't. Thank you for the compliment, though. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:26, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

==Why you delete my srategies?==
[[User:The Ultimate Medic|The Ultimate Medic]] 22:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

:I left my piece on your talk page. Give er' a look, alright? c: [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:25, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry 'bout that, I'm still kinda new [[User:The Ultimate Medic|The Ultimate Medic]] 22:28, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

:Don't worry about anything at all. I'm not really too aged myself, and I don't think I've seen a single new user that didn't get something like that on their page. Practice makes perfect, just don't forget to make use of the '''Show Preview''' button. Don't be discouraged from making edits, alright? Just see those pages I left ya. If you're looking for things to do, check [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Tasks|this page here out]]. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:31, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

== Planeswalker Item edits ==

Please check the talk pages for consensus about unnecessary trivia before reverting edits. Thanks :¬) [[User:Rebmcr|Rebmcr]] 10:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

== Intros to weapon articles ==

Which part of the style guide are you referring to when you are changing the intros to those weapon articles? -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 04:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
: "Two links should not be next to each other in the text, so that it looks like one link - such as [[Spy]]'s [[disguise]].", under "Overlinking and underlinking". [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 04:12, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
:: I think the awkward wording is worse than the links, personally. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 04:13, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
::: I'm only following the style guide. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 04:15, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
:::: Common sense should override any guidelines. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 04:16, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
::::: How does "The Sydney Sleeper is a community-made weapon for the Sniper that occupies the primary slot." sound awkward? It's structurally correct. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 04:17, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

== Pyro's tank ==

The reason I removed the bit about the Pyro's tank containing oxygen rather than fuel is covered on the Pyro talk page.  It includes discrepancies in the placement of the guage and valve of the Pyro's tank versus the oxygen tanks of firemen, and the fact that the Pyro is wearing a filter mask, and not a rebreather with tubes leading back to the tank.  [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 20:07, 5 July 2011 (PDT)
: Then removing it was fine. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 20:11, 5 July 2011 (PDT)
:: Thank you, I have removed it again, and promise to try to make my edits better in the future. [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 20:19, 5 July 2011 (PDT)
::: Don't apologize, bro. All editors are equal and stuff. No worries. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 20:28, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

== Hat Gallery Tags ==
Haha no problem! I just noticed what you were doing when I was checking out the Recent changes page several minutes ago, so I thought I'd try to cut approximately half of your work off for you by doing the same thing you were doing! And yes, the list is quite the long one, it was pretty interesting to see all the new poses I saw on all those hat pages I was tagging! :p [[User:Fortress|Fortress]] 21:13, 5 July 2011 (PDT)

== Happy Wikiversary! ==
Next step, WIKI CAP. (On a side note, sorry for bugging you the past few days, heh.)  [[File:Killicon_splendid_screen.png|60px]][[User:TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss|<span style="color:#B8383B;font-size:14px;font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 2px 2px 0px;"><b>TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss</b></span>]] 09:24, 8 July 2011 (PDT)
: You haven't done anything wrong, there's nothing to apologize about! And thank you, I appreciate it very much. c: [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 15:41, 8 July 2011 (PDT)

== Pyro == 
Um hi the edit i put on the pyros identinty is a possible theroy.--chris falcon 22:37, 8 July 2011 (PDT)07/7/11

: It was poorly written, and it has been stated on the back of the Pyro's trading card that its lungs have been ravaged by smoke. It could be male, female, whatevs. I don't think it supports Pyro's gender, but you're welcome to hit up the article's talk page and see what other people thing. Meanwhile, please check [[Help:Style_guide|this page]] out, and follow the writing guidelines when making edits, alright? [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:40, 8 July 2011 (PDT)
:Ok and what trading card? also im gonna put some info on the quick fix page look over it and tell me on my talk what i did wrong ok.--chris falcon 22:54, 8 July 2011 (PDT)Wheelerdrift 07/7/11
:: Sorry for the delayed response, buddy. There's kind of a thing going on. You can check out the [[Trading cards]] here. I'd be happy to talk you through anything you need help with. c: [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:58, 8 July 2011 (PDT)
::Thanks also read ''My talk'' so you know sorta a bit about me ok dude--chris falcon 23:02, 8 July 2011 (PDT)

== Gratz! ==

You have been wikipedian for 1 year and 1 day :D!

: Haha, thank ye very much. c: To be fair, a good chunk of it was spent on none-wiki related stuff. But it means a lot to me anyway. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 02:26, 9 July 2011 (PDT)

== hello ==
Thanks for your remind, I will improve and rename the image,thanks.
[[User:SPLvFOR|SPLvFOR]] 02:49, 9 July 2011 (PDT)
 
You probably remember me from yesterday, I am trying to set up my user page and I would be happy if you could pitch in and help me, that would be great. In case you need info about my TF2 profile, my favorite weapons are the iron curtain, the Dead ringer, The Force-A-Nature, The Quick Fix, The Cow Mangler 5000 and The righetous bison. My favorite maps are 2Fort, Gravel pit, CP Well, CP Badlands, and Gorge. My favorite clsses are The Heavy, The Medic, The Spy, The Sniper, The Soldier and The Scout. [[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 06:28, 2 August 2011 (PDT)

Hey Hammer, I just noticed that yesterday, a new update for tf2 was realesed with new items for "Upcoming" Promotional Content. If this content is already up on the wiki, could you put a link to it for me? [[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 05:26, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

== thanks a lot ==
Thanks for your remind again, cause this is my second day in tf2 wiki, i don't know about anything.

anyway, thanks a lot

[[User:SPLvFOR|SPLvFOR]] 02:49, 9 July 2011 (PDT)
 
Thanks for helping. I will try and do the rest from here, maybe we can someday go on a TF2 server together!
[[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 12:40, 2 August 2011 (PDT)

Thanks for the tip, I have now sent you a friend invitation. Give me a shout on my wiki page or Steam profile when you want to play! [[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 17:50, 2 August 2011 (PDT)

== Good work. ==
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: Oh my goodness, thank you! Very much! Oh gosh, I'll treasure it and feed it and take care of it forever. Thank you. c: [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 03:18, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

== about the "meet the medic" ==
Being one of those who added the outtakes, it occurs to me that you need to do one, or both, of these things.
1: makes a message under notes that indicates that the outtakes are not acceptable fodder for notes. If there is some code that you can use that only displays the message in the edit screen then that might be the perfect place to put it. (also, I think making a nod to the spy's head being in the outtakes is appropriate, because that seems to be the most likely place they got the idea to put it in, and as you disagree with most notes about the outtakes, possibly you should be the one to put it there to ensure that it has the correct quality.)
2: Possibly make a notes section for the outtakes. There seems to be a flood of notes regarding it,and it's not plainly visible to most, possibly because it hasn't been said but I don't know, that such things are not cannon. There seems to have been a good deal of thought that went into that storyline from the creators, at least shown on youtube, and I think that is what is causing this.

Just my ideas, and should you have been cleaning up other misguided wiki edits I have made then thank you for keeping the style of the wiki clean in my wake. 
[[User:Skywerewolf|Skywerewolf]] 13:20, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

: Alright, I put a bit of thought in to it. I don't think either of those are necessary, considering that they're just outtakes. The reason Spy's head is in the video is because they loved the gag so much, and wanted to keep it in some form, in the final cut. They pretty much said so on the blog. I wouldn't exactly call it a flood of edits, since it was just two guys. Between the five bits added by the two of you, none of them are in line with the [[Help:Style_guide|style guide]]. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 16:36, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

== Noisemaker ==
It didn't end on the 11th in any timezone. It ended on the 12th in a few and the 13th in the majority.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 04:56, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
:STop undoing valid edits. It did not end on the 11th ANYWHERE![[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 07:07, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
::Okay, I'm glad we got this resolved. I apologise for the tone of the above sentance, I was frustated that you were deleting a valid date but I shouldn't have come on to your page and used that tone. Please feel free to delete my previous comments.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 01:54, 14 July 2011 (PDT)

== RE: Undone edit ==

I checked the original helmet and the one that was put into the article. The original one looks more like it. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 21:43, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

== About that dispenser image. ==

It's offical Valve work.



Link: http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/440/SentryManual_web.pdf?t=1309294323




[[User:FishReaver|FishReaver]] 16:43, 14 July 2011 (PDT)FishReaver

== Oops, sorry ==

I didn't notice it had been removed -- I hit the back button. Will refrain from doing it in the future. [[User:Jumpluff|Jumpluff]] 13:06, 19 July 2011 (PDT)

== poke ==

thanks c:  --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="	#FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 13:53, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

== What just happened? ==

Hello, I just have a question to make sure I didn't do anything I shouldn't have.  You did an undo, then undid the undo you just did, and I'm a little worried.  May I ask what it is that I did that might have been wrong?  Just for future reference if nothing else.  [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 19:15, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
: No, no, all on me. There used to be a rule about clearing your talk page without archiving it, but apparently they changed their mind at some point. It was all my bad. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:17, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

:: Okay, thank you.  My record isn't clean, so I just wanted to stay on the right side of things.  Thank you again, you're like my Wiki friend, you'll never let me screw up. :) [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 19:32, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

::: Don't worry, guy. You're doing a good job editing. I haven't seen you do anything wrong yet. c: --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:41, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

:::: Thank you, I try. :D [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 20:41, 23 July 2011 (PDT)

== RE: Hi! ==

I'd remove it, but he'd still get the notification, and I'm willing to bet he knows how to check page history. He'd see it regardless. But no need to thank me about the backing you up thing. I may reference various 4chan things from time to time, but I'm strictly anti-4chan. That whole site is a haven for perverts and pedophiles, which is why I've made 4chan redirect to 127.0.0.1 in my HOSTS file, as a way of preventing it from being loaded. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 19:26, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
: That's kind of silly, but okay! --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:27, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

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: Thank you very, very much! --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:39, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
:: Np. [[User:Violencejr123|<span style="font-size:13px;line-height:16px;font-family:TF2 Build;sans-serif;" class="qua_unusual">Violencejr123</span>]]<small>([[User_talk:Violencejr123|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Violencejr123|contribs]])</small> 19:40, 22 July 2011 (PDT)

== RE: Thanks.. ==
Thanks for the guide ,but I actually don't remember what I told him to be "mean" :S Marwan "Marble" Diab 13:04, 23 July 2011 (PDT) <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:IMarwanI|IMarwanI]]''' ([[User talk:IMarwanI|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/IMarwanI|contribs]]) </small>
: Responded on your talk. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 15:30, 23 July 2011 (PDT)
== Oh ok :) ==
Well thanks for the advice and all :).--Marwan "Marble" Diab 16:04, 23 July 2011 (PDT)

== Howdy Partner ==

i was very glad to get your letter) Yes, I know how to edit pages, but on amateurish level...
if i have any questions i wiil ask [[User:WikiCrab|WikiCrab]] 04:36, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

== Western Wear Image ==

Wouldn't it be easier to just link to the [http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1067481-The-People-s-TF2-Emporium?p=28791201&viewfull=1#post28791201 original post] instead of having an image and gallery? [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 11:14, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

: It can link as well, but I'd really like it to be a gallery piece if it's gonna be a trivia piece. It fills the article out a bit and expands upon the trivia. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:16, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
:: It just feels like a needless gallery when the link does exactly the same thing. And it's the same procedure we use on all the other "this item was originally named..." trivia. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 11:22, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
::: There are other items with this situation? Like what? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:22, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
:::: [[Killer's Kabuto]], [[Vita-Saw]], and [[Big Earner]], plus a decent number of others I couldn't remember off hand. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 11:25, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
::::: Well snap. I didn't think there was a procedure for this, my mistake. Yeah, do you wanna fix it then or you want me to? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:26, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
:::::: You can do it. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 11:28, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
::::::: Alright, done, done and taken care of. Sorry about being stupid there! --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:30, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

==Hey there==
Hey silver, thanks for the heads up. I personally hate to pull the newb card but it cant be helped sometimes 'cause right now i'm genuinely a newb at this, in fact I'm not even 100% sure this is how to send a message. Anyways I've taken a look see at the stuff you sent me and i'll definitely try follow the guidelines better, kinda a /facepalm moment for me when you corrected my writing style 'cause I'd already seen one of these and thought I had the style down pact. another thing, one question that comes to my mind most of all, if mods have green names, me having a red name cant be good am I right? have i done something wrong or do all members start out on a sort of probationary period, thanks for helping me out a ton ''-dy1an'' 12:26, 24 July 2011 (PDT)
: Responded on your page, was ninja'd by 404 :B --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 17:24, 24 July 2011 (PDT)

I tried adding you as a friend on Steam but I am not sure which is the right one. When I type in SilverHammer, I end up with Black Hammer and when I type Captain Lavender, some other name pops up. Could you help me out? [[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 17:33, 2 August 2011 (PDT)

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: I'm so proud, thank you! c: --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 23:48, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
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== Bonk Helm Trivia ==

I've created an account on this wiki only to show you my disapproval about your last edit to the [[Bonk Helm]] article. I see you are an influent contributor, but I didn't catch what you mean with "bad trivia", which is extremely subjective.
In the first part of the trivia was a short text about the origins of the hat (in real-life), which should be in every weapon/hat article, according to me. It is a very valuable piece of information. The second part was about the origins of the hat ''in-game'', and I found it most interesting to know that the idea was contributed by Mister Royzo, which is also, I think, most valuable piece of information and should be stated in every hat/weapon article if it hasn't yet. 
I would just like to know what motivated you to delete this trivia. Edit: I just realized you did this to other articles as well, like [[Troublemaker's Tossle Cap]] or [[Whoopee Cap]]. I think most people wouldn't like it. The Whoopee Cap trivia was definetely interesting.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 08:10, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
: Here on the Official Team Fortress Wiki, we abide by a strict [[Help:Style_guide/Trivia|style guide]] when making or removing edits. The reason that the bit about the drinking helmet was removed from the Bonk Helm article was because it's an observation, unrelated to the hat itself. The drinking hat created by Royzo has nothing to do with the actual Bonk Helm. They don't even really resemble one another... I'd imagine there were a few drinking hats for the Scout before the official Bonk Helm was released, if we noted one made by a more popular contributor, we'd have to note them all. The article just isn't about those hats, it's about the Bonk Helm.
Same thing applies to the Whoopee Cap. The buttons on the hat aren't trivia, you can see what they are just by looking at it. 
One piece on the Tosslecap, however, should be added back. I'm not sure why I removed this one, but references in the name/descriptions are usually good to have.
I hope that between what I've said, and the fact that you now have access to the guide, we have cleared this up. If not, then let me know what you think would be best to do. 
And I appreciate that "influential contributor" remark. Got me all giddy. :3 
--[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:05, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

:You're welcome. Otherwise I'm afraid this is not over, I've still a couple of things to say. I think the origins of a hat/weapon are extremely important, since they focus on the character itself. That's how you could tell which class uses a particular hat, just by looking at it. To me, [[Bonk Helm]] looks terribly empty. This thing is a hat for the Scout. Nuff said. Believe me, the readers want to know what kind of hat this is, even if you don't explain why it belongs to this class, since it would be speculative. A simple link to a wikipedia article would be useful.
Now, about Mister Royzo. I seriously think you didn't see the right hat, since the right one is simply identical to the TF2 item. I even think Mister Royzo should be directly credited as the author of this hat. And finally, about that Whoopee Cap, seriously, most readers just can't see the buttons, and probably won't even recognize them. My reaction when I read that trivia earlier was "Woah! I didn't know that!" and you know what it means.
Finally, if we still can't manage to agree with each other, I definetely think we should let someone else take part in this discussion, maybe a higher authority who will know what's best, and maybe we could even make a poll. Edit: [[Fancy Fedora]]. Then check [http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=778551 this page] again 'till you see a hat made by Daimao called Fancy Fedora. Funny, Daimao is nowhere to be heard in the article.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 12:45, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

: You must be referring to this hat,[http://www.alphastudiossoftware.nl/promo_bonkhat.png] right? It's basically the Batter's Helm with some straws and a cans strapped on it. The Bonk Helm is much more visually simple. No plastic fastens on the middle of the straw, connecting it to the helmet or near the mouth. The can holders are a lot smaller, and there's an ear cover on the right side. We mention that one, we have to mention this one [http://tf2mods.net/downloads/screenshots/810d230b65.png] too. This one [http://www.gamebanana.com/skins/95417] as well.
You said the article felt empty, but we shouldn't add anything with a slight resemblance to the trivia section for the sake of having something there, or you end up with an article looking like [http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Bonk_helm this]. Or worse yet, [http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Heavy this].

As for the Whoopee Cap, it's the same thing. Observations aren't trivia. 

You're welcome to take this to a mod, if you strongly believe that they belong there. Mods have green names on the Recent changes log, you can hit them on their talk pages. Or try the [[IRC]], there are a bunch of higher ranking editors in there right now. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 12:59, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

:: And for the record, the Fancy Fedora was the very first Spy hat, and was released with the Sniper vs. Spy update. That is a mod that changed the Fedora to include a pair of sunglasses. Daimao didn't create the Fancy Fedora. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:06, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

:Oh, I'm glad you pointed my mistake out. I still see that some of the hats in this page were made official some time later. And once again, seriously, the two other drinking hats are far more different than the TF2 item. And I was afraid to say this, but as an average TF2 fan, I prefer the unofficial TF2 wiki's articles where I will indeed read interesting things I didn't know (at least with the Trivia section). I would indeed take this to a higher ranking editor, but as you know, I'm new on this wiki, so if you could re-direct me to someone... By the way, I often have problems with Trivia. On my previous wiki (Grand Theft Wiki), I caused an edit war because another guy thought Trivia's I added was useless... Until the founder of the wiki came and agreed with me. Just to let you know my background.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 13:16, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

: Well, I've stated my stance on this whole thing plenty of times now. I'll bring this to the attention of someone else, and we'll see what happens I guess. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:21, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

:What SilverHammer said is right; this is an observation that the two hats are similar. However, the Bonk Helm was released as a Valve-made hat in the Classless Update, but I'm pretty sure Valve would have credited Royzo if they did modify his model a bit and release that, or even if they just got "inspiration" from it. Even if they didn't feel like putting some public credit, they would have at least have to contact Royzo about it to ask if he wants that hat to be in-game. So I suggest you ask either Valve or Royzo about the situation, and if there was indeed some deal between them, then yes, do include it. If it's just a coincidence, then no, it is not notable.
:We do indeed have quite harsh rules for the Trivia sections of articles, for reasons that you've probably seen while browsing the old tf2wiki.net Wiki. Sure some of them are funny, but most of them are uninteresting, wrong, opinionated (trading values), etc. Hope this help :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:55, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

:Yes, thanks a lot, it helps. I'm going to try contacting Mr. Royzo (since he might be easier to reach than Robin Walker...) but you didn't say anything about "Should the origins of the hat in real-life be written?". Maybe a simple link to Wikipedia, I repeat, could be most useful. And this is the main thing I'd like to clarify.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 15:36, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

:sure you may, articles already do this (example: [[Fancy Fedora]]) :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:17, 31 July 2011 (PDT)
::So, may I undo SilverHammer's edits that went against that? Also, this is the answer I received from Mister Royzo via FacePunch: "It's just a coincidence I made a Bonk Drinking Hat before Valve made one. Same thing with the Otolaryngologist's Mirror, Daimao was the first to make one." Another mistake by me, those first days with this wiki were quite pleasant.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 13:33, 31 July 2011 (PDT)
: You want to undo what, exactly? "The Bonk Helm is a reference to similar beverage-carrying headwear that is stereotypically worn by sporting event spectators, usually referred to as a "beverage hat"? It's not a reference to beverage hats, it actually ''is'' a beverage hat. You can see what it is just by looking at it. And no matter how you write it, the fact that it looks like a community-made model still doesn't exactly constitute trivia in my opinion. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:57, 31 July 2011 (PDT)
::Indeed, it's not a reference to those types of headwear, it is one of them. Thus this does not constitute trivia, but it does have a place in the description at the top of the article. Something like "It is a team-colored plastic helmet with two cans of [...] similar to beverage-carrying headgear worn by spectators at sporting events."~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:57, 31 July 2011 (PDT)
:Well, excuse me, but I didn't know how that kind of hat was called. That's what I'm looking for. To have somewhere mentioned what type of hat it is. So may I? Oh, and I totally agree with you, Wind. That would look great.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 11:02, 1 August 2011 (PDT)

: I really don't think it's necessary. It's already described in the summary, it's a plastic hat with cans on it. There's no Wikipedia article on drinking hats to link off to, either. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:30, 1 August 2011 (PDT)

:I'm beginning to think this is lasting a bit too long. As I said, not everyone knows such hats exist in real-life, and/or what is their purpose. Like not everyone can tell by looking at a Fancy Fedora for instance: "It's called a trilby hat." Now, if you don't mind, I'll undo that one edit, let's forget about Mister Royzo' hat.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 06:19, 2 August 2011 (PDT)

: I think that you're just arguing to argue with me at this point.The link in that trivia you blindly added back is dead, it doesn't go anywhere. It's a 404. Regardless of whether or not it works, the fact itself isn't trivia. I went ahead and added it to the summary, as I thought we agreed to.  --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 10:48, 2 August 2011 (PDT)

:Ok, that seems quite correct. I would have wished something more explanatory, but this is good enough. Thanks, and sorry for wasting your and Wind's time.--[[User:Loadingue|Loadingue]] 04:04, 3 August 2011 (PDT)

== Did you remove the humor message i put on the trivia rules? ==

You wouldn't wanna lose a valuable member, now would you?

[[User:MarbalTm4|MarbalTm4]] 08:54, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

: I think you might want to give the [[Help:Style guide|style guide]] a good long read. Pages like that usually shouldn't be changed with your very first edit. In fact, I'm not 100% sure that regular users are allowed to edit that page. So please refrain from doing that in the future. You'll also notice that I removed that bit you added about the Gunslinger. It's just an observation, a coincidence, it isn't trivia. 
When you're feeling better, please look at the page I mentioned, alright? I'm sorry about your dog. 
--[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:05, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

== Thank you. ==

: Thank you for you message highlighting my problem with the trivia section. I did read the Style Guide but I missed the individual section on trivia. Thanks for the friendly welcome!
[[User:Chef Tony|Chef Tony]] 12:24, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

: No worries, friend. Hit me up with any questions.c:

--[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 12:26, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

:Thanks for the helpful message. I tryed joining the IRC but I dont know how to type on the IRC and it would be helpful if you could show me how to. Ps. What are some good pages to edit for beginners?

[[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 7:38 P.M, 1 August 2011 (PDT)

: Responded on your talk page. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 16:41, 1 August 2011 (PDT)

== Syndey Sleeper edit ==

When you said you didn't think it was a bug, did you mean you wnated it deleted?[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 13:16, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
: I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:21, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
:: In the post "*The butt of the rifle clips through the [[Darwin's Danger Shield]] when taunting, if the player is wearing one." I removed the "if the player is wearing one." part, saying it was redundant, as in it wouldn't clip through if you weren't wearing it. You readded it saying, 'I don't think it's a bug'. I wasn't clear on what you meant. Your phrase seemed to imply you wanted the whole thing removed, but your edit seemed to be restoring the phrase to it's entirity.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 13:35, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
: I've never really noticed any clipping. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:36, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
:: So you do want the whole thing removed?[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 13:36, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
: Alright, I think I understand now. If there's clipping, there's clipping and it should be noted. I think what's on the article right now is fine. What do you think would be best? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:40, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
::I'd be fine either way, I havn't noticed any clipping myself and if its wrong then it needs removing but I do feel that if it's kept that the phrase; "if the player is wearing one." should be removed, as it really seems to be redundant.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 13:42, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
: I'm not on a computer that can run TF2 at the moment, but you're welcome to test it and do what you see fit with the article. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:43, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
:: Just tested it and it's correct, the rifle butt goes right through the shield. I think the "if the player is wearing one." should still go though, it's like saying the equalizer does this much damage, but only if the player equips it.[[User:MEDUNN|MEDUNN]] 13:51, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
: Well, yeah. You're correct about that. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:52, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

== Hello and thanks ==

Hello, im am glad you were able to help because I do admit I am a noob on here. My purpose on the TF2 Wiki was so I can Give a helping hand all though it seems like there is alot of people on the Wiki. Im very glad you came along and gave a bunch of tips and help. I have been on here for two days and thanks to you I do believe i can get the hang on this, I did not expect to get a Message so fast but i do thank you for all you were able to tell me for support. [[User:WarCry45|WarCry45]] 20:18, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

== Talk:Dispenser ==

Hey SilverHammer.  I'm seeking your advice because you are an experienced member, and because you've dealt with trivia a lot before.  Could you check out the [[Talk:Dispenser]] and scroll down to the last post?  I think that this is bad trivia, but I'm not so sure. [[User:Hojung1996|Hojung1996]] 13:22, 31 July 2011 (PDT)

== Warm Welcome ==

Hello there, sorry about that, i was just checking out as i am new, thanks for welcoming me. And i had to see whether you lived up to your name as the Wiki Trivia Executioner

From [[User:Defenxxer|Defenxxer]] 20:59, 1 August 2011 (PDT)

: Responded on your talk page. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 21:03, 1 August 2011 (PDT)

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== Epic Pic ==
Not sure if the ''"Discussion"'' page allows questions, but how did you make you picture, it's '''Epic!'''

--[[User:ScoutKast|ScoutKast]] 00:00, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

: The image of the Soldier? That was made for my by the ''very'' talented [[User:Evaldas256|Evaldas256]], by request. Evaldas256 does GREAT image work.--[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 00:05, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

:: Thanks, i'll ask him then --[[User:ScoutKast|ScoutKast]] 00:08, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

::: Prepare for the happiest conversation with the nicest person you'll ever meet. ''Ever''. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 00:09, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

== Pipboy Incident ==

Sorry about that, I didn't meant to cause any harm between that page by posting that pipboy image. Sorry, I just joined so I only know little. 

Also, do you know how to make the IRC not show your IP of where you're connecting from :/ I really don't like how it's showing that. [[User:Yukumazi|Yukumazi]] 01:17, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

: I'm sorry if I'm acting like a noob right now but, is this the only way I can be able to reply to you? [[User:Yukumazi|Yukumazi]] 01:45, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

== Pip-boy ==
I think the quote is a little too long, and starts talking about stuff in ''Dead Money'' then about the pip-boy itself. [[User:Cheesepopcorn|Cheesepopcorn]]<sup>[[User talk:Cheesepopcorn|(stuff)]]</sup> 02:54, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

: It's not so much about Dead Money as it's about the Pip-Boy itself. In fact, it only brings up the Sierra Madre for about seven or eight words! Eight out of forty-six ain't so bad. That last line, "it's just as much a crutch today as it was in the Old World." is about the Pip-Boy, and it parallels the Engineer and his build tool a little bit, too! There are a few articles with MUCH longer opening quotations, publicity blurbs and stuff. If you wanna see a couple guys who agree with me, lookie [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=24109546#post24109546 here]. I'm showing off because I'm proud of it. :B Eh, it's really late. If you still feel strongly about it, you should put a note on the [[Pip-Boy]] articles discussion page, see how other editors feel. Maybe even suggest a different quote entirely! G'night! --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 03:02, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

== Hey there back at you c: ==

I don't even know if I'm doing the right thing to talk back to you, that's how new I am, but just to say, thanks for all the tips. Not to be argumentative but it is just only them weapons that do the reload bug. But if you think that's wrong to put, then fine.

I'm probably not going to post anymore edits anyway, considering I've only just noticed I'm useless at helping people virtually. But in case I do decide to soldier on, I'm going to want an awesome page like yours... How? How did you get the pictures and everything. I'm good with codes and whatever it takes to make cool stuff after I've been taught how.

It's really late at night here so I'm not going to type to much. But considering you've made over 1,500 edits and still haven't got a wiki cap, that kind of drops me down in thinking that I'm going to get any further with this, I really like being somebody that isn't the lowest of the low when it comes to the internet.

Thanks for advising me and thanks for reading this, I guess I shall expect a reply from you. :D

<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Fi3ldy99|Fi3ldy99]]''' ([[User talk:Fi3ldy99|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Fi3ldy99|contribs]]) </small>

== No Summary For A Bug Undo ==

Curious to know why you changed the gift wrap bug from line 110, as you didn't leave anything in the summary; http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Righteous_Bison&action=historysubmit&diff=659842&oldid=658704 [[User:Thenyproject|Thenyproject]] 16:23, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
: As it turns out, it's probably for the better than you undid it.  While the end result remains the same, the actual cause of the bug, as I just found out, isn't related to that timeframe I had mentioned.  It has to strictly do with the gift wrap, just like the bug with the UHHHH during Halloween, just in reverse.  All is well and I added the proper bug to the list.  Good day ;) [[User:Thenyproject|Thenyproject]] 16:41, 6 August 2011 (PDT)
:: My apologies for not leaving an edit summary. I believe I misread that bug. "Well, untradable Spine-Chilling Skulls don't magically become tradable after using gift wrap on them..." Sorry for the incompetence, glad it worked out for the best. :B --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 17:41, 6 August 2011 (PDT)

== Hello ==

Hi, I'm sorta new to the wiki and kinda would like some advice, I'm not sure how everything works so I'm very nervous when I do anything around here. ^^; Sorry if I'm bothering you, I just don't know where to go for advice. [[User:KimbaTheWhiteLion66|KimbaTheWhiteLion66]] 13:09, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

: Responded on your talk page, but I guess you know that. If you have any more questions, ask me and I'll try my best. c: --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 14:30, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

== Admit it! ==

Rainbow Dash > Rarity. That's all. {{n}}[[File:User_Heffebaycay_stslogo.png|link=]] [[User:Cructo|<span style="font-weight:bold;font-family: Segoe UI"><font color="black">Cructo]]</font></span>  <span style="font-size:10px;font-weight:bold;font-family: helvetica"><font color="black"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Cructo|T]]<nowiki>][</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Cructo|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></font></span> 17:39, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

: What's that? I couldn't hear you over the chain smoker lesbian voice and lack of civility, darling. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 17:41, 8 August 2011 (PDT)

== I added! ==

Successfully added Pip-Boy in Romanian Languge.
Thanks for support! 

Have a nice day.! <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Tuty|Tuty]]''' ([[User talk:Tuty|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Tuty|contribs]]) </small>

Responded on your talk page~ --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 10:42, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Problem ==

Hi, i have a problem.. i translated this page http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Mask_of_the_shaman/ro , but it seems the romanian language on the english original page isnt on list...i just created a new wiki page an pasted translated content on the /ro page... but painted variants doesnt show.. Help me please {unsigned|tuty}
:I think if it were at Mask of the Shaman/ro instead of Mask of the shaman/ro, it would work. The S needs to be capitalized. [[User:Coreycubed|coreycubed]] / [[User talk:Coreycubed|talk]] 11:41, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

All fixed. The problem was that you named it "Mask of the shaman", when the English article is titled "Mask of the Shaman", with a capital S. If you don't copy the capitalization, then the painted variation thing won't be able to detect what images it should be getting. There are no painted images for "Mask of the shaman", but there are for "Mask of the Shaman", you know? 

Keep up the translations, you're doing pretty well. Just don't forget to sign your posts, please! --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:44, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

I just acquired The awesome Machina and went to go check on it in the sniper community page. However, when I checked it out, the two penetration kill icons were missing! I tried to add them in, but im having some trouble doing such thing. I alinged it to center and put the right kill icons but when I look at the preview,its under the weapon icon. Could you help me out a bit? [[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 11:45, 19 August 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks ==

Okay, i understood now... thanks for support guys!

[[User:Tuty|Tuty]] 11:53, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

: :3 --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:54, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Quick question regarding edits shown on the watchlist ==
When I or someone else makes an edit, and I look at my watchlist, what do the numbers that say (+100) in green text and the numbers that say (-100) in red text mean? [[User:KimbaTheWhiteLion66|KimbaTheWhiteLion66]] 18:53, 9 August 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks mate! ==

I just wanted to thank you for paying attention to my mistakes, and reply all of my mistakes made here on wiki.
Also you are a good guy.!

[[User:Tuty|Tuty]] 13:47, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

: You don't need to thank me or anyone else. Everyone is here to help everyone, we're bros, that's how a wiki functions. c: 
: You're doing a really impressive job on the article translations. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:49, 10 August 2011 (PDT)

==Re: Re: Bonk! Atomic Punch article==
Ya, I forgot to sign it after writing so many questions. I have brought up some particular questions in articles' talk pages, but only around 1 out of 10 have responses.

1.) I have seen other articles have "also referred to" or "also known as"  in them so I thought it was okay. Plus the article itself has the item referred to as "Bonk!" throughout the page, and so I thought I might as well mention that the item is also simply known as "Bonk!".

2.) Since it is primarily an unlockble item I guess that should stay up top.

3.) Done.

4.) Okay.

5.) Okay.

6.) Okay.

7.) Okay. 

8.) Natasha sounds less awkward than the Natasha in the instance I think.

9.) Okay.

10.) What I meant was something like "The Kamikaze is an Action taunt." Kamikaze is capitalized of course, but wouldn't Action taunt be written as action taunt since it is just the name of a group of taunts like action taunt, kill taunt, etc.

11.) I guess I will give it a try, but I am not sure if I can fix it. :)

12.) Okay.

13.) Okay.

14.) Okay.

15.) If you go to the bottom of the article, under References, you will find "uberupdate scoutpack". I changed it to "Über Update Scout Pack page" – which to me looked neater.

I went back and signed my name. This time I will remember here also. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 05:54, 13 August 2011 (PDT)

Responded on your talk. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 10:41, 13 August 2011 (PDT)

== Ten Gallon ==

I'm hardly so vain as to revert the image because it was mine. I don't see the better AA, but I'll accept the shinyface thing as being a major problem with mine. I just would have preferred it if Evaldas256 has mentioned why he changed the picture, as all I could see was a pose that was more different to the old one. -[[User:Mr. Magoolachub|Mr. Magoolachub]] 13:57, 14 August 2011 (PDT)


== Welcomming Commitee ==

Thanks, I've just found out about Steam and Team Fortress 2 a few days ago. It's a terrific game with a great community and I felt like I just had to contribute! :P

[[User:2560x1600at120hz|2560x1600at120hz]] 16:54, 14 August 2011 (PDT)


== Thanks for the Reminder ==

Thanks for the reminder notice about causing flame/edit wars. I won't let it happen again.

[[User:2560x1600at120hz|2560x1600at120hz]] 17:00, 14 August 2011 (PDT)2560x1600at120hz

Thanks for inviting me to join the Wiki's IRC Channel. C:

[[User:2560x1600at120hz|2560x1600at120hz]] 17:05, 14 August 2011 (PDT)2560x1600at120hz

== Congratulations on your WikiCap!  ==

Congratulations, continue in the same spirit. [[User:Nero123|<span style="color:#FF9B00;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Nero123</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">([[User talk:Nero123|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nero123|contribution]])</span> 20:58, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
:They'll give anyone a Wiki Cap these days. Did I say that aloud? Damn! I mean, congratulations! Just remember not to rest on your laurels, and to keeping hammering away at those pages ;). --- [[File:Killicon_pumpkin.png|40px|link=User:Esquilax]] <font face="georgia" size="2">[[User:Esquilax|Esquilax]]</font> 21:02, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
:Congrats :3 Too bad I didn't get to use that shiny button at the top of this talk page to say that, though, it sure looks (c)lickable~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:31, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
::Congratulations, you shall rise and shine! Well deserved and as always, continue to be a great asset to the wiki, your doing a great job! (welcome to the shiney club!). '''<span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:italic;">[[File:RED Überneedle.png|42px|link=User:Lexar]] - <span style="text-decoration:underline">[[User:Lexar|Lexar]]</span> - <span style="text-decoration:underline">[[User talk:Lexar|talk]]</span></span>''' 00:25, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
:::Great job on the weekee cap, you truly are credit to wiki. Now how are we going to get started on building that elevator to the moon? <big> — </big>[[User:Xenak|<span style="text-shadow:lime 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#AA1DC6"><big>'''Xenak'''</big></font>]]</span> <small>(</small>[[User_talk:Xenak|<span style="text-background:white 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#C419D0"><small>'''Talk'''</small></font>]]<small>|</small>[[Special:Contributions/Xenak|<span style="text-shadow:white 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#C419D0"><small>'''Contribs''']]</small></font></span><small>)</small> 00:29, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
::::{{User:Aperture AI/Template:Scrumpy|SilverHammer}} - '''[[User:Aperture AI|<span style="color:#694D3A">Aperture AI</span>]]''' [[File:Painted Détective Noir 694D3A.png|25px|link=User:Aperture AI]]{{md}}'''(''[[User talk:Aperture AI|Talk]]'')''' 00:45, 15 August 2011 (PDT) Nice work! It must be really exciting for you to finally own a wiki cap! [[User:SonicGX98|SonicGX98]] 11:40, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::Congratulations! --[[User:Loginov|<span style="color:#3399FF;font-size:15px;font-family:'TF2 Build';">Gero* (Loginov)</span>]] <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#808080"><span style="font-size:13px">[[User talk:Loginov|talk]]</span></font> 00:47, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::Congratulations :D--<b>[[User:Nik9990|<font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#008000">Nik9990</font>]]</b> <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#808080">[[User_talk:Nik9990|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nik9990|Cont]]</font> 05:10, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::: Well done :) -- [[User:Szumin|Szumin]] ([[User_talk:Szumin|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Szumin|contrib]]) 10:12, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::::Wow, congratulations Silver! A cap well deserved! [[File:User Wingless Winged Signature.png|150px|link=User:Wingless]] 10:13, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::Congrats! :3 [[User:KimbaTheWhiteLion66|KimbaTheWhiteLion66]] 10:14, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::: Thank you so much for all the support you've given the Wiki community. Not only are you a great contributor but you also take the time to welcome and help new users. You are most certainly credit to team. You make me proud to belong to this great community. <3 [[user:BiBi|<small style="background:#f6f6f6;border:1px solid #006666;padding:0em  0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #006666;">'''BiBi '''</small>]]    10:16, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::::It was only a matter of time =) '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 10:55, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::::::::Congratulations! You deserve it! — [[User:Cappy|<span style="color:#55bb00;font-size:13px;font-family:'Verdana';font-weight: bold;">Cappy</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:Login_Soldier.png]] <sup>[[User talk:Cappy|<span style="background:#FFD700;padding:0 2px;">talk</span>]]</sup></span> 11:10, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::::::Just a few days ago i was telling SilverHammer...why dont you have one! And this morning i woke up, went to the home page of the wiki, with my good buddy's name in the wiki cap list, congratulations buddy! :3 --[[User:Evaldas256|Evaldas256]] 00:12, 16 August 2011 (PDT)

:Congratulations, you scum-infested, twisted, smelly excuse for a man! I mean that in the best way possible. Cheers! --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 11:06, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
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::I can't believe you turned this down for a Wiki Cap instead. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 11:55, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
I ''' ''want'' ''' that. ''' '' Please, '' ''' let me have it.--[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:57, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
::: I don't usually hand out congrats, but when I do, it's because you're a damn good editor.--<span style="color:purple">'''''[[User:Focusknock|Focusknock]]'''''</span> 15:08, 15 August 2011 (PDT)

== Expansion = Bad? ==
Could you take a look at my last few edits? Why is adding the word "class" to a sentence so bad? Isn't expanding an article something good to do? I even had some of my edits reverted that fixed bad grammar. I am not sure if it is due to the "region" I am from, people just reverting an article wholesale, or I am missing something other people see when I edit. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 21:28, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

Responded on your talk. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 21:36, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

== Re: Edit Wars ==

Sorry :C, I did go on the IRC and ask if someone could talk to him, I just thought it would be better to not have something as wrong as what he had marked the article for deletion for in the mean-time. I didn't really plan to keep removing it if he added it back but, I'll make sure to never undo something twice in future, sorry. -[[User:Mr. Magoolachub|Mr. Magoolachub]] 21:50, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

: Replied on your talk. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 21:53, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

== Capture zone ==
What was the matter with the article? A control point is only part of a capture zone. The article for control point doesn't mention or show this at all. It only mentions that the more players you have, the faster the taking it over part. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 22:45, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

: Because control points and capture zones are the same thing. It's not an article, it's a redirect. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:47, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
::Isn't a control point just that little circle thing in the image? The capture zone is a striped area around the control point, at least that is how I have seen them in-game. That is why multiple players can capture the control point because there is so much room for them to stand inside. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 22:57, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

::: They're the same thing. You never see an area marked capture zone without a control point inside of it. I assure you, they're the same. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 23:00, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
::::I would like to mention that other capture zones include Intel Capture zone, around the Payload, and the end/points of Payload Maps.- http://i.imgur.com/6vKcd.png[[User:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#869 0 0 5px; color:#a8b;"><u>nixshadow</u>]]</span> <span style="text-shadow:#859 0 0 5px; color:#a8b">([[User talk:Nixshadow|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Nixshadow|c]])</span> 23:01, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
::::: Oh, yeah. That too. That's just the zone where the objective is located. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 23:02, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::Okay. I just thought they were two different, yet related, objects. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 23:05, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::: I think you're correct, Rolandius. I'm looking in to it. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 23:06, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::: Alright, I apologize for this. I didn't entirely grasp what you were saying, and Nixshadow explained it to me. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 23:13, 14 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::I guess I didn't explain it as well as I thought. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 23:18, 14 August 2011 (PDT)

== Thanks ==

Well Thank you.I just saw how you made your page and tryed to make it myself.Anyqay your page is almost 20% cooler


==Show preview==
[[File:Information.png|25px]] Please make use of the '''Show preview''' button. It gives you a preview of the edit you make, allowing you to perfect it before you save the page.{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 11:30, 15 August 2011 (PDT)

Also, Why don't you archive this page? It's getting a bit cramped in here! --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 11:30, 15 August 2011 (PDT)

::[[File:Warning_red.png|25px]] I must ask again that you use '''Show Preview'''. Failure to do so will result in hatred, needles in your eyes, the loss of your soul, and thumbtacks pushed gently underneath your fingernails. --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 11:40, 15 August 2011 (PDT)

== Lo-Fi Longwave ==
Add more info at lo-fi, please. Source: http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=5853 <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Koki1oki|Koki1oki]]''' ([[User talk:Koki1oki|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Koki1oki|contribs]]) </small>
:Alright, thanks for providing a source. Let's see what can be done. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 15:05, 15 August 2011 (PDT)
:Er, it's already there. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 15:07, 15 August 2011 (PDT)

== Newspaper ==
A few questions since you have more info than I:

1.) Before the turn of the century, Mann Co. was not a weapons giant?

2.) Why is it spelled "Ro-Bot" and not "ro-bot"?

3.) Why are all the articles' quotes Written In Capitals Like This?

4.) If a sentence ends with a '!', is that not something that could be said to have been proclaimed by a newspaper?

5.) Why can't I include the name of the newspaper, especially when other publication titles are mentioned such as the ''Gentle Manne’s Monthly'' and even its article "An Editorial Cartoon of Some Insighte"?

6.) Why is the line about [[Zepheniah Mann]]'s will written as "Last Will and Testament"?

7.) Why does it say "Gold prospectors turns gaze..."? Is "prospectors" really just the last name of "Gold"?

8.) Some of those links go to blank pages...

[[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 20:55, 16 August 2011 (PDT)

== Well it's About Damn Time ==
It was going to happen sooner of later.  Congrats, mate! [[File:Killicon_splendid_screen.png|60px]][[User:TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss|<span style="color:#B8383B;font-size:14px;font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 2px 2px 0px;"><b>TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss</b></span>]] 22:27, 16 August 2011 (PDT)
: :B Thank ye. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:30, 16 August 2011 (PDT)
==F*** OFF==

<nowiki>==F*** OFF===</nowiki>

<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Art|Art]]''' ([[User talk:Art|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Art|contribs]]) 15:56, 17 August 2011</small>

== Can you give some tips on how to make good edits? ==

I've noticed that every time i try to add some trivia, whether it be good or bad, it gets removed. Could u give a noob editor like me some advice to get better at making edits? [[User:BaconIsTasty|BaconIsTasty]] 19:15, 18 August 2011 (PDT)

: Responded on your talk. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:21, 18 August 2011 (PDT)

:: Responded to you on my talk page [[User:BaconIsTasty|BaconIsTasty]] 19:49, 18 August 2011 (PDT)

== Eyelander info ==

I made the edit to the Eyelander page under trivia because I'm not sure where else to put it. I swear everyone must be blind because what I wrote is NOT mentioned anywhere on the page. It mentions the extra overheal cap at the top but NOT what I mentioned about gaining 15 health back with each kill even with 4+ heads. Also, it's not "strategy" at all, I have no idea where you got that impression; it is a quirk of the weapon. I'm going to keep editing it until this fact is mentioned clearly somewhere, because the description on the page is confusing. [[User:Warrior 7|Warrior 7]] 21:38, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
: It's in the third paragraph. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 21:39, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
::Sorry, nowhere in that paragraph does it mention explicitly that whenever a base health increase is gained the player also gains 15 health to their current health total, and that this extra health is awarded with each Eyelander kill even after the player has maxed out their base health bonus. The only part that could remotely be construed as that is the last sentence and it's flat out wrong. --[[User:Warrior 7|Warrior 7]] 21:51, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
::: "If the Demoman is overhealed, any extra heads — more than 4 — will overheal by 15 points". That is exactly what you are saying, and it is there. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 21:53, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
:::: No it isn't, I know what I'm saying and that isn't it. That sentence is factually incorrect. He does not NEED to be overhealed, and the health is granted in a similar fashion to the Powerjack. The statement is wrong, I have tested it. --[[User:Warrior 7|Warrior 7]] 21:57, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
::::: "any extra heads — more than 4 — will overheal by 15 points". This is what you are saying, isn't it? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:00, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::: Basically what that sentence is saying that taking any head will heal you by 15. If it increases your health over your max, it will be overheal instead. The sentence might need a bit of rewording, that's all --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 22:00, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::: Yes, it definitely needs rewording, because it's not saying what Firestorm said at all. --[[User:Warrior 7|Warrior 7]] 22:06, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::: Honestly, I think it's clear as crystal as it is. Also, would you mind using the '''Show preview''' button before posting? You're just editing this article 2-3 times at a time and it alerts me every time there's a change, it gets a little bothersome. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 22:08, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::::: I have reworded it slightly. It's a bit long and wordy, but it describes precisely what it does. --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 22:11, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::: Thank you, that's pretty much exactly what I was going for! You missed a little bit about gaining 15 current health along with the max health bonus but other than that it's perfect! --[[User:Warrior 7|Warrior 7]] 22:15, 18 August 2011 (PDT)
::::::::::: Feel free to edit it yourself, we're always watching the edits so don't worry about breaking too much! --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 22:16, 18 August 2011 (PDT)

==Hat page problem==
Hey silver, im having a bit of trouble with editing out this mess up on one of the sniper's hats (snipers snipin glass) over [[Hats|here]], I'm at a complete loss on how to fix this and i was wondering if you could help me out with this one. Thanks in advance bud and congrats on the wiki cap by the way, looks to me like you certainly deserved it :) ''-dy1an'' 00:01, 19 August 2011 (PDT)

: Heh, thanks. :3 It looks fine to me... Someone else probably took care of it while I was asleep, huh? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 11:38, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
::Yeah someone took care of that a while back, something about updating templates and some other stuff i dont really know about [[User:Dy1an|''dy1an'']] 12:02, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
BTW on the machina page, that information isnt supposed to be under trivia i admit but its definitely worth noting in general info up top dont ya think?

::: "The weapon gets its name from the Latin phrase "deus ex machina" (literally meaning "god out of the machine"), which is a term used to describe a convenient plot device that abruptly appears out of nowhere and solves all of the problems the protagonist may be facing."? Origin stories are fine trivia, usually. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 12:03, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
:::: Meant this, " Upon a successful double headshot where the bullet has penetrated and killed multiple players, a sound will play throughout the server to signal the occurance." There was some confusion going on about it on the talk page, so i really think it should be up at the top of the article.
::::: Oh. If that's not noted already, it should probably be, yeah. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 12:10, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::: It already does, in fact. "Achieving a penetration kill with the Machina produces a unique fanfare."--[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 12:12, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::Nah theyre different, [[Talk:Machina|noted here]] [[User:Dy1an|''dy1an'']] 12:22, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::: If you kill two people with the same shot, it plays one fanfare, but if you kill two people and one is a headshot, it plays another? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 12:24, 19 August 2011 (PDT)
:::::::::Basically, but for the sound that isn't the fanfare to play both have to be headshots. Sound can be heard at 20 seconds in on that video i left behind. [[User:Dy1an|''dy1an'']] 12:27, 19 August 2011 (PDT)

=Congrats=
HEY, HEY!!! Look who got themselves a Wiki Cap (Wookie Cap in the Star Wars realm). I was suprised you didn't have one when I started. You Totally Deserve It! Enjoy the praise you will get by a thousand other people. --[[User:ScoutKast|ScoutKast]] 07:45, 21 August 2011 (PDT)

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== Trading ==

I have been making numerous edits to the [[trading]] article (during times when I should really be asleep), and after a LOT of cleanup, I removed the cleanup template that marked the article for general cleanup.  Seeing as you are more experienced, I come to you for advice.  Was it right of me to remove the template, or in my sleep-deprived judgment did I make a mistake? [[User:Hojung1996|Hojung1996]] 22:50, 30 August 2011 (PDT)