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*Sounds pretty darn likely. Considering this shovel was advertised as a garden shovel in the Polycount Set it was in, it probably refers to it. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|24px]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 17:41, 22 June 2011 (PDT) | *Sounds pretty darn likely. Considering this shovel was advertised as a garden shovel in the Polycount Set it was in, it probably refers to it. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|24px]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 17:41, 22 June 2011 (PDT) | ||
** why do we have the trivia for market garden for restaurants? i don't see how it's a reference.--[[User:FactCore|FactCore]] 04:24, 27 July 2011 (PDT) | ** why do we have the trivia for market garden for restaurants? i don't see how it's a reference.--[[User:FactCore|FactCore]] 04:24, 27 July 2011 (PDT) | ||
+ | ***Well, Operation Market Garden was named after the phrase "Market Garden", but I think you're right, it seems a bit pointless to describe that - kind of like X of Y trivia. The shovel is obviously named after the operation, not the area of land called a Market Garden. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 18:00, 27 July 2011 (PDT) | ||
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+ | ==Exact time for crits?== | ||
+ | i read the article and noticed it said "deals crits wile the weilder is rocket jumping, and ''shortly after he lands''" | ||
+ | i did some tests on this, and it seems that the second part of that is untrue, it only deals crits wile your airborne(rocket jumping), not shortly after that. | ||
+ | i am almost certain that this is the case, but i may be incorrect, as it may for some reason only be me and my computer.[[User:Firehazard42|Firehazard42]] 18:16, 11 October 2011 (PDT) | ||
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+ | :The "shortly after" is a time frame of maybe half a second, so it's really easy to miss. --[[User:Digifreek|Digifreek]] 20:31, 28 July 2012 (PDT) | ||
+ | ::If you post without looking at the last post date again, we have somethings to talk. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 20:55, 28 July 2012 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == Older Picture == | ||
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+ | In the Trivia it talks about how it's appearance changed. There is a picture of the old one on the Polycount website linked here:http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73188 --[[User:Magnum Force-Enforcer|Magnum Force-Enforcer]] 13:11, 26 March 2012 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == A picture of the actual shovel? == | ||
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+ | Maybe a picture of the actual shovel would add more content | ||
+ | [[User:Canucka|Canucka]] 14:21, 14 May 2013 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == Bug or not? == | ||
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+ | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkX_tbzsk4s Here], if you keep your momentum by jumping after landing the rocket jump, you can still crit with Market Gardener. Is this a bug or not? [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 17:21, 22 August 2013 (PDT) | ||
+ | : I added it to the page, but the sentence structure I used seems off. I would have to assume it's a bug since A: The timing is way too exact to be a mechanic and B: The lack of this mentioned in patch notes indicates it's been there since the item was made. | ||
+ | <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:KazooieBanjo|KazooieBanjo]]''' ([[User talk:KazooieBanjo|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/KazooieBanjo|contribs]]) </small> | ||
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+ | ==Should this go under triva?== | ||
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+ | The fact you can kill more then one person with the market gardener in a rocket jump, not using a bug. Most people most likey don't know this. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9Da5kLu_Y_Y#t=28 Source] | ||
+ | [[User:Princess Cherry|Princess Cherry]] ([[User talk:Princess Cherry|talk]]) 07:47, 3 May 2014 (PDT) | ||
+ | :I don't think it's noteworthy or even a bug. The description just says "Deals crits while the wielder is rocket jumping". There's no limitation of kills while doing the rocket jump. | ||
+ | :'''~{ [[User:TidB|TidB]]''' | [[User_talk:TidB|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/TidB|c]]''' }~''' 07:54, 3 May 2014 (PDT) | ||
+ | True but its not often that a common player will have seen it or have done it in game. | ||
+ | [[User:Princess Cherry|Princess Cherry]] ([[User talk:Princess Cherry|talk]]) 09:13, 3 May 2014 (PDT) | ||
+ | : Even so, its not noteworthy. The amount of luck and or skill required to do a double kill with X weapon does not make it trivia. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 10:20, 3 May 2014 (PDT) | ||
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+ | == This and the gunboats should be for demoman too. == | ||
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+ | I think this should be for [[Demoman]], Cause he can Sticky jump and that is considered blast jumping. | ||
+ | And i also think the [[Gunboats]] should also be for [[Demoman]]. | ||
+ | [[User:Asome3333e1|Asome3333e1]] ([[User talk:Asome3333e1|talk]]) 14:27, 12 February 2016 (PST) | ||
+ | : This sort of discussion would be better suited on places such as the SPUF or Reddit. Discussion pages are only meant for discussing the content of the page, not suggestions/general thoughts of the item. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 15:16, 12 February 2016 (PST) |
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Advanced Weaponiser
This weapon is a lot similar to the Advanced Weaponiser weapon Maraudor's Mace; Both crit during a Rocket Jump. The only difference is that the Maraudor's Mace also does it 2 seconds after, and has alternative downsides. I reckon it's worth a mention in the trivia. Mecha the Slag 14:38, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
- They mention the fact the Back Scratcher is from the Advanced Weaponiser too, so I guess it would count as trivia. Just a Gigolo - (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
name reference
Considering the World War theme for Day 3 I think the name of this weapon might be related to "Operation Market Garden", the largest airborne operation at that time. Thoughts? SkillerBehindYou 17:38, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
- Sounds pretty darn likely. Considering this shovel was advertised as a garden shovel in the Polycount Set it was in, it probably refers to it. Fyahweather 17:41, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
- why do we have the trivia for market garden for restaurants? i don't see how it's a reference.--FactCore 04:24, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
- Well, Operation Market Garden was named after the phrase "Market Garden", but I think you're right, it seems a bit pointless to describe that - kind of like X of Y trivia. The shovel is obviously named after the operation, not the area of land called a Market Garden. » Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 18:00, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
- why do we have the trivia for market garden for restaurants? i don't see how it's a reference.--FactCore 04:24, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
Exact time for crits?
i read the article and noticed it said "deals crits wile the weilder is rocket jumping, and shortly after he lands" i did some tests on this, and it seems that the second part of that is untrue, it only deals crits wile your airborne(rocket jumping), not shortly after that. i am almost certain that this is the case, but i may be incorrect, as it may for some reason only be me and my computer.Firehazard42 18:16, 11 October 2011 (PDT)
- The "shortly after" is a time frame of maybe half a second, so it's really easy to miss. --Digifreek 20:31, 28 July 2012 (PDT)
- If you post without looking at the last post date again, we have somethings to talk. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 20:55, 28 July 2012 (PDT)
Older Picture
In the Trivia it talks about how it's appearance changed. There is a picture of the old one on the Polycount website linked here:http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73188 --Magnum Force-Enforcer 13:11, 26 March 2012 (PDT)
A picture of the actual shovel?
Maybe a picture of the actual shovel would add more content Canucka 14:21, 14 May 2013 (PDT)
Bug or not?
Here, if you keep your momentum by jumping after landing the rocket jump, you can still crit with Market Gardener. Is this a bug or not? Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 17:21, 22 August 2013 (PDT)
- I added it to the page, but the sentence structure I used seems off. I would have to assume it's a bug since A: The timing is way too exact to be a mechanic and B: The lack of this mentioned in patch notes indicates it's been there since the item was made.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by KazooieBanjo (talk) • (contribs)
Should this go under triva?
The fact you can kill more then one person with the market gardener in a rocket jump, not using a bug. Most people most likey don't know this. Source Princess Cherry (talk) 07:47, 3 May 2014 (PDT)
- I don't think it's noteworthy or even a bug. The description just says "Deals crits while the wielder is rocket jumping". There's no limitation of kills while doing the rocket jump.
- ~{ TidB | t | c }~ 07:54, 3 May 2014 (PDT)
True but its not often that a common player will have seen it or have done it in game. Princess Cherry (talk) 09:13, 3 May 2014 (PDT)
- Even so, its not noteworthy. The amount of luck and or skill required to do a double kill with X weapon does not make it trivia. Ashes (talk) 10:20, 3 May 2014 (PDT)
This and the gunboats should be for demoman too.
I think this should be for Demoman, Cause he can Sticky jump and that is considered blast jumping. And i also think the Gunboats should also be for Demoman. Asome3333e1 (talk) 14:27, 12 February 2016 (PST)