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I swear, this page used to be a lot more detailed then now. If I'm right, what happened to the old version? And a side note, the list even had Mario Kart in it, with a list of memes... [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 22:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 
I swear, this page used to be a lot more detailed then now. If I'm right, what happened to the old version? And a side note, the list even had Mario Kart in it, with a list of memes... [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 22:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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: I stripped out a lot of it because it was unnecessary. So it has the same amount of valuable information, just less fluff and more substance. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 22:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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:: However, am I still allowed to post a custom map? What with the User:AbeX300/*custommap* thing and all? And it is called <b>custom</b> maps for a reason. [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 22:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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::: What point are you trying to make? If you want to create an article for a custom map, it will need to meet certain notability guidelines. Achievement maps won't meet those guidelines unless under exception circumstances. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 23:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
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:::: Wait, not even adding it to my user only? I thought you can make anything in your own vicinity... [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 01:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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::::: The Wiki is not a free file or page hosting site. Every page must be relevant in some way to the Wiki. So no, you can't put just anything on your user pages. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 01:42, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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: This page looks bads. We should at least have the Custom Maps page go to a '''page''' not just category section. I would do something if I knew how [[User:Octaytse|Octaytse]] 04:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Split ==
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Split category between [[:Category:Custom maps]] (for unreleased maps) and [[:Category:Community maps]] (for released maps)? And delete [[:Category:Custom maps unreleased‎]]? <u>This would require some maintenance of certain templates. Or suggest something else.</u> <s>(someone please add split tag)</s> [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="70B04A">'''M I K A D O 282'''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="70B04A">''' oOOOOo oo oo  '''</font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|'''''talk''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) 03:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC) 12:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
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: {{c|yes}} Good idea, please go ahead. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] [[Help:Group rights#Moderators|<span class="locbg">lm</span>]][[Help:Language_translation|<span class="locbg">(pt-br)</span>]] 02:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
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:: Just to update: modify and expand [[:Category:Maps]] and [[:Category:Custom maps]] into the following hierarchy:
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::* [[:Category:Maps]]
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::** [[:Category:Official maps]]
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::*** [[:Category:Valve maps]]
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::*** [[:Category:Community maps]]
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::** [[:Category:Custom maps]]
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:: [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|'''''talk''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) 22:08, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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: With the move of [[User:Kobolite/Gibson]], it should be clear that the move to user space '''''does not remove the page from the [[:Category:Custom maps|main space category]]'''''; there should be removed to some category that makes the distinction clear, see last line in table below. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] <!-- --
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--> <small> ([[User:Mikado282/Contact Mikado282|Talk with Mikado282 (SM)]]) | [[Special:Contributions/Mikado282|'''''contribs''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) </small> 12:24, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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{| class="wikitable sortable grid" style="text-align:center;"
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|-
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! class="header unsortable" | Category
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! class="header unsortable" | Present Policy
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! class="header unsortable" | Proposed  Policy
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|-
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| [[:Category:Maps]] || all maps || all maps
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|-
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| [[:Category:Official maps]] ||  did not exist || Released to game in patch by Valve.
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|-
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| [[:Category:Valve maps]] || did not exist  || Developed by Valve. Released by Valve.
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|-
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| [[:Category:Community maps]] || did not exist || Developed by Community. Released by Valve.
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|-
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| [[:Category:Custom maps]] || Developed by Community. ''Maybe'' released by Valve. || Not patched in, e.g., potato MvM
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|-
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| [[some User space Custom maps category]] || does not exist || Custom or spoof map pages in user space
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|}
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::: [[User:Tark|@Tark]] : It is trivial to create the categories, but beyond my schedule to modify the existing bodged templates. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] <!-- --
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--> <small> ([[User:Mikado282/Contact Mikado282|Talk with Mikado282 (SM)]]) | [[Special:Contributions/Mikado282|'''''contribs''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) </small> 20:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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::: [[User:Tark|@Tark]] : The new categories are {{Dead!}}. But the update to the templates is beyond by present resources. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] <!-- --
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--> <small> ([[User:Mikado282/Contact Mikado282|Talk with Mikado282 (SM)]]) | [[Special:Contributions/Mikado282|'''''contribs''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) </small> 20:51, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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::: [[User:Tark|@Tark]] and all other editors : So, in large, I am trying to pick back up on the map notability assessment. I recall writing something up on the 2010-2011 maps (all self-promotions except [[Convoy]]), but I am struggling to find it (I mean, I do not think it was this: [[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Custom map study 2020]], but some place where I discussed that they were self-promotions. Please help. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] <!-- --
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--> <small> ([[User:Mikado282/Contact Mikado282|Talk with Mikado282 (SM)]]) | [[Special:Contributions/Mikado282|'''''contribs''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) </small> 21:08, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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:: Personally, I think custom user space category isn't necessary. User pages are specifically not allowed to use mainspace categories, so they shouldn't be in the custom map category.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 14:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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::: Perhaps I needed to be more clear. You are right that Custom map pages should not be in User space categories, but Map infobox puts them in there, unless you already fixed it.
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:::[[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] <!-- --
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--> <small> ([[User:Mikado282/Contact Mikado282|Talk with Mikado282 (SM)]]) | [[Special:Contributions/Mikado282|'''''contribs''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) </small> 02:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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::::As far as I can tell, the map infobox doesn't add it to any category whatsoever. For example, [[User:Kobolite/Gibson|the Gibson page]] I moved yesterday has the map infobox, but is not in any category.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 07:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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::::: Right, thanks for patiently clearing up my misunderstanding. I had seen that something was putting all Community and unpatched Custom maps into the same category. I don't understand how, but, referring to the changes to Gibson since June 10, simply moving a map page to user space removes it from the main space category. Maybe there is a switch in one of the templates. (My faulty recollection was that it didn't use to work that way. I thought I checked and still saw Gibson in Custom maps on 13 June 2022. )
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::::: So, ''maybe'' a User space Custom map category is "not necessary", but I see some usefulness to having some means of tracking user space map pages. ''cf [[:Category:Dutch]]''
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::::: [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] <!-- --
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--> <small> ([[User:Mikado282/Contact Mikado282|Talk with Mikado282 (SM)]]) | [[Special:Contributions/Mikado282|'''''contribs''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) </small> 12:38, 14 June 2022 (UTC) 12:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 12:41, 14 June 2022

Custom Gamemode

I was wondering if I could get a permission to post a map with a custom gamemode: zf_asylum_b2, this version just got released and it's a very high quality map, I could get in screenshots and work on the page myself. I think it would complement the Zombie fortress mod section very nicely by adding this single reference map with screenshots. the only reason why I'm suggesting this is because it's the only original zf map with a good enough quality to be placed here, but this is my opinion, any thoughts? Guy 20:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Change the mention of ZF_Asylum_b2 on the page to a link to it's FPSB page. -- Pilk (talk) 20:37, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
thats a good idea, but could I put in some gameplay screenshots for the ZF main page? Guy 20:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Sure that sounds like a good idea too. -- Pilk (talk) 21:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't this page much more detailed before?

I swear, this page used to be a lot more detailed then now. If I'm right, what happened to the old version? And a side note, the list even had Mario Kart in it, with a list of memes... AbeX300 22:41, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I stripped out a lot of it because it was unnecessary. So it has the same amount of valuable information, just less fluff and more substance. -- Nineaxis Duck Gib.png 22:50, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
However, am I still allowed to post a custom map? What with the User:AbeX300/*custommap* thing and all? And it is called custom maps for a reason. AbeX300 22:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
What point are you trying to make? If you want to create an article for a custom map, it will need to meet certain notability guidelines. Achievement maps won't meet those guidelines unless under exception circumstances. -- Pilk (talk) 23:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Wait, not even adding it to my user only? I thought you can make anything in your own vicinity... AbeX300 01:37, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
The Wiki is not a free file or page hosting site. Every page must be relevant in some way to the Wiki. So no, you can't put just anything on your user pages. -- Pilk (talk) 01:42, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
This page looks bads. We should at least have the Custom Maps page go to a page not just category section. I would do something if I knew how Octaytse 04:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Split

Split category between Category:Custom maps (for unreleased maps) and Category:Community maps (for released maps)? And delete Category:Custom maps unreleased‎? This would require some maintenance of certain templates. Or suggest something else. (someone please add split tag) M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (Help Wanted!) 03:01, 25 September 2019 (UTC) 12:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Yes Good idea, please go ahead. — Tark lm(pt-br) 02:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Just to update: modify and expand Category:Maps and Category:Custom maps into the following hierarchy:
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 22:08, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
With the move of User:Kobolite/Gibson, it should be clear that the move to user space does not remove the page from the main space category; there should be removed to some category that makes the distinction clear, see last line in table below. M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 12:24, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Category Present Policy Proposed Policy
Category:Maps all maps all maps
Category:Official maps did not exist Released to game in patch by Valve.
Category:Valve maps did not exist Developed by Valve. Released by Valve.
Category:Community maps did not exist Developed by Community. Released by Valve.
Category:Custom maps Developed by Community. Maybe released by Valve. Not patched in, e.g., potato MvM
some User space Custom maps category does not exist Custom or spoof map pages in user space


@Tark : It is trivial to create the categories, but beyond my schedule to modify the existing bodged templates. M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 20:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
@Tark : The new categories are Pictogram tick.png Dead!. But the update to the templates is beyond by present resources. M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 20:51, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
@Tark and all other editors : So, in large, I am trying to pick back up on the map notability assessment. I recall writing something up on the 2010-2011 maps (all self-promotions except Convoy), but I am struggling to find it (I mean, I do not think it was this: User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Custom map study 2020, but some place where I discussed that they were self-promotions. Please help. M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 21:08, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Personally, I think custom user space category isn't necessary. User pages are specifically not allowed to use mainspace categories, so they shouldn't be in the custom map category.
GrampaSwood (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Perhaps I needed to be more clear. You are right that Custom map pages should not be in User space categories, but Map infobox puts them in there, unless you already fixed it.
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 02:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, the map infobox doesn't add it to any category whatsoever. For example, the Gibson page I moved yesterday has the map infobox, but is not in any category.
GrampaSwood (talk) 07:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Right, thanks for patiently clearing up my misunderstanding. I had seen that something was putting all Community and unpatched Custom maps into the same category. I don't understand how, but, referring to the changes to Gibson since June 10, simply moving a map page to user space removes it from the main space category. Maybe there is a switch in one of the templates. (My faulty recollection was that it didn't use to work that way. I thought I checked and still saw Gibson in Custom maps on 13 June 2022. )
So, maybe a User space Custom map category is "not necessary", but I see some usefulness to having some means of tracking user space map pages. cf Category:Dutch
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 12:38, 14 June 2022 (UTC) 12:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)