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− | The [[Grappling Hook]] needs to be added to the all class. I would do ot but it is far to complicated to place. | + | The [[Grappling Hook]] needs to be added to the all class. I would do ot but it is far to complicated to place. |
+ | <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:ScottishDrunkard|ScottishDrunkard]]''' ([[User talk:ScottishDrunkard|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/ScottishDrunkard|contribs]]) </small> | ||
+ | : {{c|Done}}. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 08:50, 24 December 2014 (PST) | ||
+ | :: Thank you sir,myou are a life saver :) you deserve a hat! [[User:ScottishDrunkard|ScottishDrunkard]] ([[User talk:ScottishDrunkard|talk]]) 08:53, 24 December 2014 (PST) | ||
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+ | == More Unique-quality Stock weapons == | ||
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+ | The article mentions that "customizing a Stock weapon with a Name or Description Tag will create a Unique quality variant". While I am ''pretty'' sure Killstreak, Festive, Festivized, and Decorated weapons are also Unique-quality weapons, with Festive and Decorated merely having an additional attribute and Grade, respectively, I am not '''''100%''''' sure. If someone knows for certain and can make a good edit to include/mention those (or some of them), please go ahead. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 18:30, 16 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
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+ | : I'm not really sure what you mean or how this is related to stock weapons. Stock weapons are the default class weapons with grey names, Unique weapons are the yellow name weapons that appear in your Steam inventory without having any other quality. Killstreak, Festive and Festivized weapons are indeed Unique quality afaik (unless you use a streak kit/festivizer on a non-unique weapon, duh), but it's not like the article says that applying a tag to a stock weapon is the only way to get a Unique weapon. [[User:StargazerG|StargazerG]] ([[User talk:StargazerG|talk]]) 22:33, 16 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::From the article:<br> | ||
+ | ::"''Stock weapons have the Normal quality, however, <u>customizing a Stock weapon with a Name or Description Tag will create a Unique quality variant</u>.''" | ||
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+ | ::There are now more ways for one to acquire Stock weapons with the Unique quality instead of the regular Normal quality, such as festivizing and decorating them. What I mean is: I think it would be nice to include them to that part of the text, or make it so Tags don't seem to be the only way to have a Unique-quality Stock weapon (ex: change "a Name or Description Tag" to "certain tools"). - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 00:18, 18 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::: I get it now. I think the question here is whether Killstreak and Festivized weapons are the same item as the Stock weapons. I think Festives definitely aren't (a Festive Scattergun isn't the same item as the stock Scattergun, and there's no Stock Festive Scattergun), and Festivized arguably aren't too. Killstreak may be, as I don't think adding Killstreaks is much more of a change than adding a name/description tag (though it is a bigger, more noticeable change). War Paints are Decorated quality, not Unique, so idk if they should be mentioned. [[User:StargazerG|StargazerG]] ([[User talk:StargazerG|talk]]) 00:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
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+ | Oh. Yeah. Decorated is a quality. My bad. | ||
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+ | Still, there are Festive variants of Stock weapons, and most Stock weapons can be Festivized. Although the appearances of Festive and Festivized weapons change slightly, they still have the same stats. | ||
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+ | Instead of saying "Stock weapons can change from Normal to ''Unique quality''", we could (and should, IMO) say "Stock weapons can change from Normal to ''other qualities'' [by using tools on them]". - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 02:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == [[Normal]] vs. Stock == | ||
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+ | Given that there is virtually zero difference between these two senses (the odd glitched Normal item aside), why aren't these articles merged? I know Normal is the quality ''per se'', but it feels redundant that Stock isn't a section (with redirect) within Normal or something.--[[File:Leaderboard class allclass.png|15px|link=]] [[User:Akolyth|<span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Trebuchet MS">'''Akolyth'''</span>]] ([[User_talk:Akolyth|talk]]) 07:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
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+ | :Normal is a quality, which is distinct from what a stock weapon is. Just like how Genuine is always a quality assigned to promotional items, or Haunted is always assigned to Halloween items, but neither of those are featured as a section in [[Promotional items]] and [[Halloween event]] respectively.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:34, 8 January 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 12:34, 8 January 2024
Strange Weapons
While I'm playing my heavy, he seems to be making non-stock weapons responses so I guess this should be pointed out somewhere... (Maybe I'm making this in the wrong place, perhaps it should be on the Item Quality talk) Ziom236 17:51, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
- It's already mentioned here ('Killing with a non-stock primary weapon'). - WatdaFok. 17:57, 9 August 2011 (PDT)
Grappling Hook
The Grappling Hook needs to be added to the all class. I would do ot but it is far to complicated to place. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by ScottishDrunkard (talk) • (contribs)
- Done. --Omolong (talk) 08:50, 24 December 2014 (PST)
- Thank you sir,myou are a life saver :) you deserve a hat! ScottishDrunkard (talk) 08:53, 24 December 2014 (PST)
More Unique-quality Stock weapons
The article mentions that "customizing a Stock weapon with a Name or Description Tag will create a Unique quality variant". While I am pretty sure Killstreak, Festive, Festivized, and Decorated weapons are also Unique-quality weapons, with Festive and Decorated merely having an additional attribute and Grade, respectively, I am not 100% sure. If someone knows for certain and can make a good edit to include/mention those (or some of them), please go ahead. - BrazilianNut (talk) 18:30, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure what you mean or how this is related to stock weapons. Stock weapons are the default class weapons with grey names, Unique weapons are the yellow name weapons that appear in your Steam inventory without having any other quality. Killstreak, Festive and Festivized weapons are indeed Unique quality afaik (unless you use a streak kit/festivizer on a non-unique weapon, duh), but it's not like the article says that applying a tag to a stock weapon is the only way to get a Unique weapon. StargazerG (talk) 22:33, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- From the article:
- "Stock weapons have the Normal quality, however, customizing a Stock weapon with a Name or Description Tag will create a Unique quality variant."
- From the article:
- There are now more ways for one to acquire Stock weapons with the Unique quality instead of the regular Normal quality, such as festivizing and decorating them. What I mean is: I think it would be nice to include them to that part of the text, or make it so Tags don't seem to be the only way to have a Unique-quality Stock weapon (ex: change "a Name or Description Tag" to "certain tools"). - BrazilianNut (talk) 00:18, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- I get it now. I think the question here is whether Killstreak and Festivized weapons are the same item as the Stock weapons. I think Festives definitely aren't (a Festive Scattergun isn't the same item as the stock Scattergun, and there's no Stock Festive Scattergun), and Festivized arguably aren't too. Killstreak may be, as I don't think adding Killstreaks is much more of a change than adding a name/description tag (though it is a bigger, more noticeable change). War Paints are Decorated quality, not Unique, so idk if they should be mentioned. StargazerG (talk) 00:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Oh. Yeah. Decorated is a quality. My bad.
Still, there are Festive variants of Stock weapons, and most Stock weapons can be Festivized. Although the appearances of Festive and Festivized weapons change slightly, they still have the same stats.
Instead of saying "Stock weapons can change from Normal to Unique quality", we could (and should, IMO) say "Stock weapons can change from Normal to other qualities [by using tools on them]". - BrazilianNut (talk) 02:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
Normal vs. Stock
Given that there is virtually zero difference between these two senses (the odd glitched Normal item aside), why aren't these articles merged? I know Normal is the quality per se, but it feels redundant that Stock isn't a section (with redirect) within Normal or something.-- Akolyth (talk) 07:41, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Normal is a quality, which is distinct from what a stock weapon is. Just like how Genuine is always a quality assigned to promotional items, or Haunted is always assigned to Halloween items, but neither of those are featured as a section in Promotional items and Halloween event respectively.
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