Talk:Backstab

Major Article Revision

I have reorganized the sections, added a new section, and added a picture to the article. Any comments to the changes? Anything that should be added or removed? ----- Davtwan 03:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Moving the section was a good idea, nevertheless your new section was moved to Spy Strategies because it was correct but didn't belonged here, and I really don't see the use of the picture, it's not really that useful, and I don't think it's well done (but that's a minor thing in comparaison). I don't understand your point in wanting at all cost to change this well done article? It doesn't need major revision, not even minor, it's a good one, why change it? Tturbo 04:02, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Because it is being considered to be a featured article. One of the people in charge of featured articles suggested a few changes to be done, so I thought I would help add these changes to make the article a featured one. Mind you though, I'm not going to remove anything. The content is fine as it is. I just want to give it more content and meat. ----- Davtwan 17:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Should there also be a note that the spy also flips his knife ready to backstab a disguised spy? Sam-1-14 21:52, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Stabs while taunting

It has come to my attention that backstabbing a player who is taunting will not work. I've done extensive testing to make sure this is true. However, I've been told not to add it to the article until it is "confirmed". I'll leave it in the discussion so that whenever it is confirmed (if someone could explain the difference between confirmed and proved, that would be appreciated) that it can be added to the article. Mewizkuit 20:15, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean. I've been backstabbed many times while eating my sandvich or taunting as the sniper? Moussekateer 20:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

oops, maybe it only happens with certain taunts. i only tried it with one taunt for every character; i guess "extensive testing" should probably include every single taunt in the game. either way, certain taunts prevent backstabbing. try it with heavys minigun taunt, for instance. This is probably something that should be written on the pages of specific taunts that prevent backstabbing, not on this page. Sorry! I ought to make sure of things before making statements like this >.< Mewizkuit 20:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible that rotating your view while taunting changes where a Spy has to backstab you from? For example, if you turn the camera to look at your face (180 degrees), does that cause backstabs to only register from the front (since you're now "looking" the other way, even though the model suggests otherwise)? Toomai Glittershine 17:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC) I can answer your question. Yes it does. IF the camrea is moved it changes your back to your front. I have also learned this does not work in lags or in other rare cases such as a killing taunt. For example, when you do the heavys min-gun taunt and rotate the camera and a spy comes behind you and does a knife taunt since his taunt is quicker even though the camera has changed it regesters it as a kill. Though usually spies want the job over and done and neglect to try, and are usually desgised as a teammate stopping their taunt abilities. And I have experince that a few taunts you can neglect to turn the camera you still wont get killed. Nightshade 01:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Featured Article

This article has been featured for over two months now. Can we please change it? I thought it was supposed to change every week or month. Dark Pyro 10:55, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

That killfeed thing in the upper right

Is anyone else unable to see the victim name? I just see (Spy *backstab icon* ) SilverHammer 05:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Shows up for me. - nixshadow • t|c 05:30, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

This is on the article - "Kill notice|extend=yes|invert=yes|killer=Spy|victim=Heavy Weapons Guy|weapon=backstab|width=100%" So it should be displaying. I do not see it either. Refreshing cache does absolutely nothing for fixing that. -- Psychopath 05:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Backstab Techniques

I can get some clips for all the backstab techniques, showing them in first and third person, if that would help a bit. In a controlled environment, of course. CaptainSurprise 21:45, 26 October 2011 (PDT)

Demonstrating backstabbing techniques?

It seems that this question have been already made, but it had no answers.

So should backstabbing techniques be demonstrated?

-Asplode 06:31, 28 May 2012 (PDT)

Nope, because we teach people how they can do it the normal way, and not how it can be, Facestabs f.e. or side stabs? I like it the way it is now. TheDoctor 06:37, 28 May 2012 (PDT)

Backstab Damage Clarification

In the article it says that a backstab does 600% of the victim's health. While this is true as the end result the way it is phrased makes it ambiguous. This is because it says it does 600% and always crits, which can be interpreted as it does 600% plus the crit bonus for 1800%. It makes it sense to have it this way on the Spy page but for the detailed backstab page I think it should be explained more clearly. I propose we change "Backstabs deal damage equal to 600% of the target's current health and always deal critical hits, unless otherwise prevented by a Battalion's Backup" to "Backstabs deal base damage equal to 200% of the target's current health and always deal critical hits for a total damage of 600% of the targets health. This critical hit can be prevented by a Battalion's Backup". That maybe isn't the ideal sentence but it could be reworded and possibly broken into two statements. Kevincox 09:34, 17 January 2013 (PST)

Glitch?

I was playing TF2 and a while ago I got the "FYI I am a spy" achievement. The funny thing is, when I got the achievement the medic was healing me I backstabbed him. So the killfeed was like (RED text) BLU medic + Mattthedalek (backstab) (BLUE text) BLU medic. Should I add this to the glitch section of this page? Mattthedalek (talk) 11:02, 22 December 2015 (PST)

I don't see how this is even a glitch. Considering the description of the achievement: "Backstab a Medic who has healed you in the last 5 seconds."

You literally JUST did what was it asking for....

Ashes (talk) 11:10, 22 December 2015 (PST)

Messy article full of Youtubers

This article is a mess. What's up with all the awkwardly named "techniques" in here and whoever "invented" them? It becomes confusing and reads like a Youtube Spy description. Shouldn't this be on Spy strategy page, if anywhere? Tinker (talk) 16:11, 14 December 2016 (PST)

Big Earner's speed boost is applied on kill, not backstab

I noticed that this page specifies that the Big Earner applies a speed boost to the Spy on backstab, but this is actually not the case. A kill with this does not need to be a backstab to apply a speed boost. I'm not sure if this applies to the cloak refill though. TinyDeskEngineer (talk) 16:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

A backstab is a kill, therefore it applies the speedboost when backstabbing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 16:08, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I thought I'd add that the cloak regen does apply on butterknives too, however I feel like it would be a good idea to mention that you don't necessarily need to backstab someone if you desperately need the cloak. Payn (talk) 00:35, 7 November 2023 (UTC)