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== Departure ==
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I decided to quit wiki, it's not about the conflict between me and [[User:Boba|that person]], but it's mainly because of [https://imgur.com/a/giYTRvM how people threated me here in the recent year]. I lost motivation because of it. Always threated me like a bad person. I thought about quitting years ago. It's hard to maintain the mental level to above average. But with the recent behavior I received, I decided to do it. It's heart broken for me to leave the site that make me be me. But this place is no longer the place I used to know anymore.
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== Unused versus Bug sounds for Original and Machina ==
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I may come back to check the update, but not as the contributor any more. Thank you for supporting me in the past, it's time for me to move on. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 01:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
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: Sorry to hear that you left on bad terms. Thank you for your effort over the years, it's much appreciated. You're welcome back anytime, friend. [[User:I-ghost|i-ghost]] ([[User talk:I-ghost|talk]]) 23:04, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
  
The reloading sounds are set up to work for both the [[Original]] and [[Machina]]. They're only unused in the sense they don't actually work. Both are set up properly (or... well I guess not properly, but they made a good attempt), they just don't work for whatever reason. This makes them a bug, rather than unused content. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 09:53, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
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== DYK undo ==
:ok, I thought those sound don't work because valve didn't add it. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 16:31, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Huo Long Heatmaker Trivia ==
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Hi there,
  
Hi, I see you are removing the underwater trivia, may I ask you why? I just did a screenshot though. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Frozen_Fire_The_Elementalist/screenshot/577837481867017314 [[User:Frozen Fire|Frozen Fire]] 06:30, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
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The Trivia guidelines don't apply to the Did You Know section, it has [[Help:Did you know|its own set of guidelines]]. The glove fact is a valid DYK fact, but it has been featured before.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:29, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
:Huh, but I don't think it should be trivia because Fire must not work underwater. Put in Bug section is better. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 08:53, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
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:Sorry, my bad. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 10:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
  
== Wikichievement ==
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== IRC message ==
  
{{Award Wikichievement
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I did indeed link the wrong one, not sure how that happened. The proper discussion [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion#Stats in update history & patch notes consistencies|here]], outside of either of our messages, has 3 people agreeing that weapon stats would be too much, and the other people don't mention it or only mention stat patch notes in general and not specifically having the old stats.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 09:41, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
| wikichievement = Helping Hand
 
| from          = [[User:Karmacharger|Karmacharger]]
 
| reason        = Borrowed me Red-Tape Recorder for The demonstration Video :3
 
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== About the Cow Mangler 5000 ==
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: That discussion never really went anywhere and didn't have a proper conclusion as nothing was ever properly addressed. Discussions being abandoned is sadly pretty common, but nothing was really agreed upon in this case.
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: Like I said in the message: patch notes can be freely modified in articles. This has always been the case, and there's simply no reason to change it now.  You may dislike that some pages do have this info and others don't, but that's a preference, not a reason for change.
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: You could also update the ones that lack these detailed stats or come up a better way to display old stats (which I believe is your goal [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion#History_of_an_item_template|here]]). <!-- Also, Hi Hinaomi! --> — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 13:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
  
I was just wondering about your decision to remove the [[Cow Mangler 5000]] bug that I added (reflected projectiles become crits rather than mini-crits) on the grounds that it is a mechanic and not a bug.  I believe it should be considered a bug because it violates two mechanics.  First, all reflected projectiles are supposed to be mini-crits; the Cow Mangler 5000 projectiles becoming crits clearly violates that mechanic.  Second, the Cow Mangler 5000 is not supposed to be capable of being crit-boosted; this bug is a clear violation of that mechanic. I would like to know your reasoning for considering it a mechanic.  [[User:CyclopsDragon|CyclopsDragon]] 13:21, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
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::Like I said on IRC:
:Because it was too overpowered before. The reflect crits is another nerf thing that Valve actually add but it didn't enough so Valve added more nerf like 5% slower reload times, Can't be crit-boosted and 10% damage penalty. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 13:30, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
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::* If you gonna keep it as 1:1, rename the section to '''Patch note''' (as that, you can just copy & paste everything from the official patch note).
::That's understandable, but then why doesn't it appear in the tooltip or in any of the patch notes?  If it was an intended mechanic, then surely it would be shown somewhere.  [[User:CyclopsDragon|CyclopsDragon]] 21:10, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
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::* If you want to keep it as '''Update history''', keep it as it is for now or find a better way to display the different state of said weapons (as Tark mentioned).
:::Some attribute are hidden, like original fire from center. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 22:17, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
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::As right now, I still don't have a better idea/method to display the old stats of the weapon with drastically changes like [[Soda Popper]] or [[Short Circuit]]. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig-2.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|<span style="color:#9a86c5">'''Asuka Ninomiya'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 22:45, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
::::True, but that's a much more minor attribute than this.  And besides, firing from the center is implied by the weapon's viewmodel.  [[User:CyclopsDragon|CyclopsDragon]] 17:10, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::Or 20% damage to building in Pomson 6000, It's one of another hidden attribute. And about "why doesn't it appear in the tooltip or in any of the patch notes?". About patch note, nope because it reflect as crit since it added to the game. And toltips, it's in Damage and Function Times. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 17:28, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
 
  
== Bad edits? ==
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== Discussion ==
  
You've recently "warned" me to not make any "bad edits". That is completely irrelevant since all I've done was constructive and necessary for some articles. How on earth can you define those as "bad edits"?
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See [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion#Previous attributes in Update history|this discussion]].<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 22:59, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
:In some pages like [[Backwards Ballcap]], you added unnecessary part. And some of your edits are terrible. Also, sign you comment when in talk page using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> before post. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 18:14, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== RE: Help!==
 
 
 
But of course! I'll get right on it for you now ^^ [[File:User Wingless Winged Signature.png|150px|link=User:Wingless]] 17:29, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Don't Get Me Wrong.... ==
 
 
 
There is in no way at all I am trying to be rude about this, but speculation has been added that has not been removed on actual pages, like Grey Mann's page having a "theory" that the man in the torn middle is him. A likely theory, but still, that's speculation. How is it that one thing like that goes unnoticed, but when a discussion speculation comes into play it's a whole different story? [[User:FenixChief|FenixChief]] 12:23, 15 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:Your words look like suggestions/advice more than discussion. That's why I told you to talk at Steam Users' Forum. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:46, 15 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::I wasn't really trying to suggest, really adding more of a theory, so to speak. I've done this before during the Uber Update concerning The Family Business, and I was never addressed as so. [[File:User FenixChief Steam pic.png|25px]] [[User:FenixChief|FenixChief]] 13:00, 15 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::Could we bring this Talk over to my Talk page? I'd like for this to be more within my perimeters and not a burden on your page. [[File:User FenixChief Steam pic.png|25px]] [[User:FenixChief|FenixChief]] 14:13, 15 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Red Tape Recorder bug ==
 
 
 
You reverted me in [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/?diff=1126610 this edit], and I don't want to start an edit war, so I feel like I should explain where I'm coming from. The normal Sapper does damage to the buildings it's placed on, whereas the Red Tape Recorder does not&mdash;it specifically has a "-100% Sapper Damage Penalty" attribute, so a crit boost would have no effect on it. If it did glow when crit boosted, ''that'' would be a bug. Not glowing is the expected behaviour of a weapon that cannot crit. [[User:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkblue">den</em>]][[User talk:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkred">dodge</em>]] 16:47, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:I noted that Normal Sapper glow when crit-boosted, even it doesn't effect anything. That's meaning Red-Tape should glow when crit-boosted, but Red-Tape doesn't. So That's a bug. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 17:01, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::Why does it have to be a bug with the Red Tape Recorder? It sounds to me like a bug with the normal Sapper if it can glow despite not being able to crit. Presumably, somewhere in the schema the Sapper is listed as dealing damage (which it does), but not as not being able to crit, so it can glow. Whereas the RTR is presumably listed as dealing no damage, so it never glows. Whatever the cause, it sounds like a bug with the Sapper, not the Red Tape Recorder. [[User:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkblue">den</em>]][[User talk:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkred">dodge</em>]] 17:18, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::I don't think it's stock sapper bug. CM5K was able to crit-boosted before but it didn't glow even mini-crit. So that isn't bug? Many unable to deal crit damage glow when crit-boosted like Buff Banner. So it's red-tape bug. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 18:05, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
 
::::"Lots of other things are broken, so it must be a bug with the non-broken thing." If a weapon deals no damage, it shouldn't glow when crit boosted, because that's misleading. The Red Tape Recorder isn't buggy just because it displays the expected behaviour while other weapons don't. The other weapons are the buggy ones. [[User:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkblue">den</em>]][[User talk:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkred">dodge</em>]] 18:19, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::::So that means [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]], [[Crit-a-Cola]], [[Mad Milk]], [[Rocket Jumper]], [[Buff Banner]], [[Battalion's Backup]], [[Concheror]], [[Sticky Jumper]], [[Sandvich]], [[Dalokohs Bar]], [[Buffalo Steak Sandvich]], [[Fishcake]], [[PDA|Build/Destroy PDA]], [[Medi Gun]], [[Quick-Fix]], [[Kritzkrieg]], [[Jarate]], [[Disguise Kit]] and [[Sapper]] are bug? I think only Red-Tape is only thing that not glow but another do. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 19:47, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Scout and MvM ==
 
 
 
FYI the bit you took off the Scout article was about Scout's '''innate abilities''' in MvM, not about "strategies".
 
 
 
According to your reasoning, might as well remove the double capture rate info. [[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 01:08, 21 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:It's innate ability only MvM mode. It should not note on Character page unlike the double capture rate that is innate ability in many mode. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 03:44, 21 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
::That's not the point: the purpose of the article is, among the other things, to illustrate the class' abilities, the number of game modes they're applicable doesn't matter. Anyway, I wrote about this on the Scout's talk page, we can discuss this further over there.[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 10:09, 21 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:::Alright then, I'm not serious about it too much, Just my suggestion that it should not on that page. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 10:24, 21 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Reverting edits ==
 
Hi there. I just noticed that you reverted someone's edit, but didn't supply a reason in the summary. Keep in mind that it's very important to tell the person why their edit got reverted, as failing to do so often leaves the other person confused and sometimes very angry (and occasionally they rage-quit the wiki). Just keep this in mind for the future, thanks! <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:17px;color:#a13434;">MogDog66[[File:User MogDog66 Service Metal No WhiteSpace.png|24px|link=User:MogDog66]]</span> 20:24, 26 August 2012 (PDT)
 
:Because I beware about [[User_talk:Hinaomi/archive2#Hostility|this]], I got this warning before. And that's why I usually didn't supply the reason. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 05:05, 27 August 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
==Stay here, because...==
 
 
 
I'm qualified to say that because i had some bad days in the past, and i thought the whole world is against me. But for real some opinions are not really important. Two tiny persons doesn't picture the whole story of Hinaomi, and they are not the world opinion. Just stay and continue your good work and the opinions will change, and even more people will back you up with good and strong points which speak for you. Don't make the same mistake as myself to be a bit (<understatement) of a drama queen. [[User:TheDoctor|δ³Σx²]] 09:35, 1 September 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
==Don't make me wrong (reply)==
 
My apologies for undoing your edit - I thought that you had removed the question entirely, instead of removing it. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 22:38, 1 September 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Huntsman Bug ==
 
Hello, I am curious why you removed my bug post regarding the quiver on the Huntsman page, because you did not leave an explanation. Thanks, Wibbles. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Wibbles|Wibbles]]''' ([[User talk:Wibbles|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Wibbles|contribs]]) 16:53, 2 September 2012</small>
 
:It's reload animation problem, and if it's bug, another page will also have it in the bug too but that bug happen with [[Flare Gun]], [[Detonator]], [[Scorch Shot]], and all Sniper Rifle. So that means it's not bug, just animation problem. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 10:31, 2 September 2012 (PDT)
 
::Please refer to the [[Help:Style guide/Bugs#What are not bugs?|style guide]] to understand why this was removed. Thanks. [[File:User Wingless Winged Signature.png|150px|link=User:Wingless]] 10:37, 2 September 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Just Wondering...==
 
Why did you remove my question on the weapon demonstration project talk page? I dont see any reason why it needed to be deleted. [[User:Ghostchicken8|Ghostchicken8]] 17:50, 2 September 2012 (PDT)
 
:I didn't remove, just move it to the bottom of the page but I forget to delete the undo comment. Your question still on talk page. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 18:13, 2 September 2012 (PDT)
 
Ok then. Sorry to bother you. [[User:Ghostchicken8|Ghostchicken8]] 18:24, 2 September 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== That's racist ==
 
 
 
" This guy came to wiki on 3 June 2012, it's only 4 months, I think he should take a little long time to let another person seen how good in him." The time a person is on the wiki doesnt determine the value and use. Don't be disrespectful in the future, thanks. [[User:TheDoctor|δ³Σx²]] 05:34, 5 September 2012 (PDT)
 
:Ok, I'll update the denomination. [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 05:38, 5 September 2012 (PDT)
 

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I decided to quit wiki, it's not about the conflict between me and that person, but it's mainly because of how people threated me here in the recent year. I lost motivation because of it. Always threated me like a bad person. I thought about quitting years ago. It's hard to maintain the mental level to above average. But with the recent behavior I received, I decided to do it. It's heart broken for me to leave the site that make me be me. But this place is no longer the place I used to know anymore.

I may come back to check the update, but not as the contributor any more. Thank you for supporting me in the past, it's time for me to move on. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 01:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that you left on bad terms. Thank you for your effort over the years, it's much appreciated. You're welcome back anytime, friend. i-ghost (talk) 23:04, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK undo

Hi there,

The Trivia guidelines don't apply to the Did You Know section, it has its own set of guidelines. The glove fact is a valid DYK fact, but it has been featured before.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:29, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 10:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

IRC message

I did indeed link the wrong one, not sure how that happened. The proper discussion here, outside of either of our messages, has 3 people agreeing that weapon stats would be too much, and the other people don't mention it or only mention stat patch notes in general and not specifically having the old stats.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 09:41, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

That discussion never really went anywhere and didn't have a proper conclusion as nothing was ever properly addressed. Discussions being abandoned is sadly pretty common, but nothing was really agreed upon in this case.
Like I said in the message: patch notes can be freely modified in articles. This has always been the case, and there's simply no reason to change it now. You may dislike that some pages do have this info and others don't, but that's a preference, not a reason for change.
You could also update the ones that lack these detailed stats or come up a better way to display old stats (which I believe is your goal here). — Tark 13:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
Like I said on IRC:
  • If you gonna keep it as 1:1, rename the section to Patch note (as that, you can just copy & paste everything from the official patch note).
  • If you want to keep it as Update history, keep it as it is for now or find a better way to display the different state of said weapons (as Tark mentioned).
As right now, I still don't have a better idea/method to display the old stats of the weapon with drastically changes like Soda Popper or Short Circuit. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig-2.png Asuka Ninomiya (talk) • (contributions) 22:45, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

See this discussion.
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