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{{Map infobox | {{Map infobox | ||
| − | | game-type = King of the Hill | + | | map-strategy = yes |
| − | | file-name = koth_lakeside_final | + | | map-status = community |
| − | | map-image = koth_lakeside.jpg | + | | map-name = Lakeside |
| − | | | + | | map-game-type = King of the Hill |
| − | | map-environment = Egyptian | + | | map-file-name = koth_lakeside_final |
| − | | map-setting = Daylight, sunny | + | | map-image = koth_lakeside.jpg |
| − | | map-deep-water = | + | | map-released = {{Patch name|2|24|2011}} |
| − | | map-health | + | | map-released-major = Community Map Pack Update |
| − | | map-health | + | | map-environment = Egyptian |
| − | | map-health | + | | map-setting = Daylight, sunny |
| − | | map-ammo | + | | map-has-deep-water = yes |
| − | | map-ammo | + | | map-pickups-health-small = 6 |
| − | | map-ammo | + | | map-pickups-health-medium = 2 |
| + | | map-pickups-health-large = 1 | ||
| + | | map-pickups-ammo-small = 4 | ||
| + | | map-pickups-ammo-medium = 2 | ||
| + | | map-pickups-ammo-large = 1 | ||
| + | | map-stamp-link = https://steamcommunity.com/stats/TF2/leaderboards/132352 | ||
| + | | map-has-bots = yes | ||
}} | }} | ||
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| + | {{hatnote|For strategy specific to the [[Halloween map|Halloween]] variant of Lakeside, see [[Community Ghost Fort strategy]].}} | ||
This article is about '''Community Lakeside strategy'''. | This article is about '''Community Lakeside strategy'''. | ||
| − | ==General | + | '''Note''': It is recommended to read the main [[Lakeside]] article first to become familiar with the names of key map locations used in this article. |
| − | *There are water | + | |
| + | {{TOC limit|3}} | ||
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| + | ==General strategy== | ||
| + | *There are water wells on both sides of the checkpoint. Go there if you are on fire with a flaming arrow or Pyro. | ||
==Class-specific strategy== | ==Class-specific strategy== | ||
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* The only area with water is near the full health kit next to the point. Remember that enemies that are on fire will often run for this location. Shoot them with a secondary weapon before they can flee. | * The only area with water is near the full health kit next to the point. Remember that enemies that are on fire will often run for this location. Shoot them with a secondary weapon before they can flee. | ||
* The flanking opportunities on this map offer many rewards for Pyros using the [[Backburner]]. Few opponents will watch all the available exits for their team, which allows stealthy Pyros to inflict considerable critical damage on the enemy. Hide in the corner at the point to score huge Backburner damage. | * The flanking opportunities on this map offer many rewards for Pyros using the [[Backburner]]. Few opponents will watch all the available exits for their team, which allows stealthy Pyros to inflict considerable critical damage on the enemy. Hide in the corner at the point to score huge Backburner damage. | ||
| − | * When attacking an opponent, be sure they don't reach one of | + | * When attacking an opponent, be sure they don't reach one of the large health packs or the pool of water. This may spell your defeat if they get to take off [[afterburn]] or get their health back to full. |
| + | * If you hide near the capture point water pool, you can use the [[Neon Annihilator]] to kill an enemy who may have just exited the water. | ||
==={{class link|demoman}}=== | ==={{class link|demoman}}=== | ||
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==={{class link|engineer}}=== | ==={{class link|engineer}}=== | ||
| − | * Because there are not many effective choke points on this map, consider using the [[Gunslinger]] for temporary | + | * Because there are not many effective choke points on this map, consider using the [[Gunslinger]] for temporary Sentry support. |
* An alternative is to set up at a distance and employ the [[Wrangler]] to support the team, but this setup is vulnerable to Spies. | * An alternative is to set up at a distance and employ the [[Wrangler]] to support the team, but this setup is vulnerable to Spies. | ||
* Make sure to build a [[Dispenser]] as quickly as possible. Ammo pickups are spaced far apart on the map, and teammates will need much more than the map provides to push the attack. | * Make sure to build a [[Dispenser]] as quickly as possible. Ammo pickups are spaced far apart on the map, and teammates will need much more than the map provides to push the attack. | ||
* A popular Dispenser location is next to the stairwell leading to the point. It allows teammates to easily access it during battles for the point, and it is out of the way of enemy fire. | * A popular Dispenser location is next to the stairwell leading to the point. It allows teammates to easily access it during battles for the point, and it is out of the way of enemy fire. | ||
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| + | * A good place for a nest is in the doorway of the room with the large health pack overlooking the Control Point. | ||
==={{class link|medic}}=== | ==={{class link|medic}}=== | ||
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==={{class link|spy}}=== | ==={{class link|spy}}=== | ||
* As with the Pyro, take advantage of the numerous routes available. There are several ways to approach enemies from behind. | * As with the Pyro, take advantage of the numerous routes available. There are several ways to approach enemies from behind. | ||
| − | * Compared to health, there are markedly fewer ammo refills on the map. Keep this in mind when recharging the [[ | + | * Compared to health, there are markedly fewer ammo refills on the map. Keep this in mind when recharging the [[Cloak and Dagger]] or normal [[Invis Watch|Invisibility Watch]]. |
* The number of health refills means that it is easier to escape a bad situation and heal, without being forced to rely on an enemy Engineer's Dispenser or the enemy's Medics. | * The number of health refills means that it is easier to escape a bad situation and heal, without being forced to rely on an enemy Engineer's Dispenser or the enemy's Medics. | ||
* Most of the time, Snipers will have their back to the walls around the catwalks in this map. Use your [[Revolver]] or other primary weapon to shoot them instead of trying to get a [[backstab]]. | * Most of the time, Snipers will have their back to the walls around the catwalks in this map. Use your [[Revolver]] or other primary weapon to shoot them instead of trying to get a [[backstab]]. | ||
| − | + | * You can use your Cloak and Dagger to camp in the little inlets right outside the enemy spawn to creep up and backstab enemies coming right out of their spawn. | |
| + | * Swimming to the bottom of the water pool near the capture point can help you hide for a short time. If you are stealthy enough while underwater, you could get the drop on an enemy. | ||
{{Map strategy}} | {{Map strategy}} | ||
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| Lakeside | |
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| Basic Information | |
| Map type: | King of the Hill |
| File name: | koth_lakeside_final
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| Released: | February 24, 2011 Patch (Community Map Pack Update) |
| Variants: | Ghost Fort |
| Developer(s): | Valentin "3DNJ" Levillain |
| Map Info | |
| Environment: | Egyptian |
| Setting: | Daylight, sunny |
| Deep Water: | Yes |
| Bot support: | Yes |
| Map Items | |
 Health Kits:
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 ×6 •  ×2 •  ×1
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 Ammo Boxes:
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 ×4 •  ×2 •  ×1
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| Map Photos | |
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| Map Overview | |
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For strategy specific to the Halloween variant of Lakeside, see Community Ghost Fort strategy.
This article is about Community Lakeside strategy.
Note: It is recommended to read the main Lakeside article first to become familiar with the names of key map locations used in this article.
General strategy
- There are water wells on both sides of the checkpoint. Go there if you are on fire with a flaming arrow or Pyro.
Class-specific strategy
Scout
- As a Scout, when your team has captured the point, harass the enemies as they head towards the point.
- Use the stone wall by the medium health kit on the side to reach the enemy battlements and harass their Snipers.
Soldier
- The approach to the control point requires approaching by the low ground. Rocket Jump to reach the point quickly, but be careful of enemy Snipers and Sentry Guns.
- The Direct Hit is useful because the opportunities for splash damage are already somewhat limited, and is also effective against Snipers in their confined nests. However, it is not as good at suppressing the enemy team.
- The large amount of health items available means that the Black Box is less useful than the standard Rocket Launcher on this map.
Pyro
- There are several approaches to the control point. Take advantage of these to flank the enemy team as they attack teammates.
- The only area with water is near the full health kit next to the point. Remember that enemies that are on fire will often run for this location. Shoot them with a secondary weapon before they can flee.
- The flanking opportunities on this map offer many rewards for Pyros using the Backburner. Few opponents will watch all the available exits for their team, which allows stealthy Pyros to inflict considerable critical damage on the enemy. Hide in the corner at the point to score huge Backburner damage.
- When attacking an opponent, be sure they don't reach one of the large health packs or the pool of water. This may spell your defeat if they get to take off afterburn or get their health back to full.
- If you hide near the capture point water pool, you can use the Neon Annihilator to kill an enemy who may have just exited the water.
Demoman
- Consider using the Scottish Resistance to control the entries to the room containing the full health pickup. This will prevent enemies from reaching the health or flanking teammates. It also allows a chance to control access to the control point itself.
- The area around the control point is large and open. This offers more room for grenades and sticky bombs to fly uninterrupted. Arc grenades and sticky bombs over the point to push back the other team.
Heavy
- Try to control the room containing the large health pickup surrounded by water, next to the control point. This room is extremely confined and enemies will quickly fall to the Minigun, especially if they get caught in the water. It also gives access to the control point to block enemy captures.
- Avoid being out in the open. The map has a large amount of clear space around the central area, which is ideal for Snipers.
- Be wary of Spies. There are numerous paths they can take to approach from behind.
Engineer
- Because there are not many effective choke points on this map, consider using the Gunslinger for temporary Sentry support.
- An alternative is to set up at a distance and employ the Wrangler to support the team, but this setup is vulnerable to Spies.
- Make sure to build a Dispenser as quickly as possible. Ammo pickups are spaced far apart on the map, and teammates will need much more than the map provides to push the attack.
- A popular Dispenser location is next to the stairwell leading to the point. It allows teammates to easily access it during battles for the point, and it is out of the way of enemy fire.
- A good place for a nest is in the doorway of the room with the large health pack overlooking the Control Point.
Medic
- Health is plentiful on this map, but remember where the healing pickups are anyway. The numerous paths on the map mean it is very easy for a priority target like a Medic to be flanked or ambushed by a powerful close-range class like the Pyro or Scout.
- If using the Kritzkrieg, consider applying its charge to a Heavy instead of a Soldier or Demoman. The Heavy's bullets can quickly dominate the central area, which the Soldier and Demoman would not be able to do as effectively because of the wide space.
Sniper
- There are several platforms, stands, and high areas to take advantage of long lines of sight. Use these to support the team from a safe distance, but be careful of enemy Spies, Pyros, and Scouts.
- The wooden platforms overlooking the point are a good place to snipe from, but there is little room to maneuver. Avoid being caught by surprise in these Sniper nests.
- Make sure to move around a lot in this map; it's vital that the other Snipers don't find you, and neither do the Spies. This map has many sniping spots, so take advantage of them.
Spy
- As with the Pyro, take advantage of the numerous routes available. There are several ways to approach enemies from behind.
- Compared to health, there are markedly fewer ammo refills on the map. Keep this in mind when recharging the Cloak and Dagger or normal Invisibility Watch.
- The number of health refills means that it is easier to escape a bad situation and heal, without being forced to rely on an enemy Engineer's Dispenser or the enemy's Medics.
- Most of the time, Snipers will have their back to the walls around the catwalks in this map. Use your Revolver or other primary weapon to shoot them instead of trying to get a backstab.
- You can use your Cloak and Dagger to camp in the little inlets right outside the enemy spawn to creep up and backstab enemies coming right out of their spawn.
- Swimming to the bottom of the water pool near the capture point can help you hide for a short time. If you are stealthy enough while underwater, you could get the drop on an enemy.
