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| − | == 2 or 1 Hazard Area == | + | {{Talk archive |
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| − | is there 2 or 1 hazard area in coal town for pyro to airblast?
| + | == The melee range increased when charging as demoman == |
| − | [[File:Killicon_flaming_huntsmanhs.png|40px]][[User:Hecarimz|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#461BE0 ">He</span><span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#B8383B ">car</span><span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#000000">imz</span>]] 08:07, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :I've only seen one. [[User:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkblue">den</em>]][[User talk:Dendodge|<em style="color:darkred">dodge</em>]] 10:04, 20 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | ::I've seen, and fallen in, both. One on the left lane, one on the far area of the bomb-site square, too far to airblast easily from the hole itself, though. [[User:Sinez|Sinez]] 16:49, 21 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == I request Community strategy ==
| + | The thing about demoknight bots being able to make use of the melee range increase while charging isn't impossible to recreate as demoknight. It is actually really easy it's just charge when you are using a melee swing so the charge starts while your melee attack is still able to deal damage so it, M1+ a charge almost immediately after hitting M1 and your charge won't get canceled out by the attack and you get the full usage of the extended melee range. Should I include it in the Demoman part? |
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| − | Some sections on this page are edited with community tips, could there be a Community Strategy for classes and weapons? [[File:User Ravecrib9t4 Signature Logo.JPG |35px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#141414 ">TNS</span>]] 09:12, 23 August 2012 (PDT)
| + | [[User:Zarioo12|Zarioo12]] ([[User talk:Zarioo12|talk]]) 17:00, 21 March 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | == Spy tips ==
| + | :There's not much point.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | The spy tips say "Whichever disguise you decide to use is largely irrelevant", then goes on to suggest pyro or engy. If disguise doesn't matter, wouldn't scout always be the best option, since it gives a speed boost?
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| − | Also, does anybody know if sapped robots give a bonus with the [[Diamondback]]? --[[User:Itsacon|Itsacon]] 02:28, 27 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :Scout disguises do NOT give speed boosts; it's actually a way to tell a fake Scout from a real one. As for the Diamondback, I'm not sure. [[User:ShadowGlove|ShadowGlove]] 05:08, 27 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | ::I always thought you got a small speed boost, but not the full scout speed. But I just read [[Disguise]] again, and you are, obviously, right. We live and learn... --[[User:Itsacon|Itsacon]] 00:07, 29 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | ::Disguising as a scout works just fine in MvM. I prefer disguising as a scout because I don't know how speed upgrades are affected by your disguise, and scout is the fastest movement option --[[User:Ohpleez|Ohpleez]] 03:10, 28 November 2012 (PST)
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| − | :Diamondback does not give any bonus crits from sapped robots. --'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 13:03, 30 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | First Soldier Combinaison : "The upgraded banner enables Mini-Crits for the whole team", I could be wrong, but is it really necessary to upgrade Buff Banner for sharing mini-crits for the whole team ? [[User:Brucelian|Brucelian]] 04:39, 30 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :In my experience, it doesn't actually affect your whole team, instead using its regular radius. ==[[User:FaxCelestis|Fax Celestis]] <sub>[[User_talk:FaxCelestis|talk]]</sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/FaxCelestis|contrib]]</small><sup>[http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/ home]</sup> 12:04, 30 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | ::But the only upgrade which exists for the Buff Banner just increase the buff duration.[[User:Brucelian|Brucelian]] 12:43, 30 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :::Right. Does that say anything about increased radius? No. ==[[User:FaxCelestis|Fax Celestis]] <sub>[[User_talk:FaxCelestis|talk]]</sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/FaxCelestis|contrib]]</small><sup>[http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/ home]</sup> 16:28, 30 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | ::::As far as I'm aware, there was at launch an option to upgrade the Banner to affect the whole team, but it was swiftly removed. I could be wrong, but the point is that no such option exists now. This tip should be removed. ==Reginald Cuftbert 11:14, 23 Septemper 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Bot Symbols ==
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| − | We need to add the symbols for the different bots next to their titles. I'd do it myself but it's late and I don't know where to find them. Any help either way would be appreciated. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 16:34, 11 November 2012 (PST)
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| − | == Scout tips ==
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| − | There are some major flaws in the scout tips:
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| − | :"consider dumping all your money into resistances and move speed and using a bat or Frying Pan"
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| − | ::Melee is never a good idea in MvM, and a scout who doesn't use the Fan O'War is just a bad scout. Also resistences are pretty expensive in the beginning, milk and speed / jump upgrades are more important and cheaper. You can dodge projectiles, so later you should prefer bullet resistences.
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| − | :"The Special Delivery item set can be very useful because of the +25 health effect."
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| − | ::A scout not using the Fan O'War for marking is a bad scout, the health bonus is negligible.
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| − | :"Once upgraded, a hit from the Sandman's ball marks a robot for death like the Fan O'War, meaning the robot will take mini-crits from your friends' weapons."
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| − | ::The upgrade costs 500 credits, which is VERY expensive. And marking with balls doesn't work as reliable as marking with the Fan O'War. The 15 hitpoints less are a major downside. Sandman doesn't stun robots, so it's by far not as useful as in PvP. It's an expensive toy, costing your team the game at least in expert.
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| − | :"Using Bonk! Atomic Punch can allow you to serve as a distraction for giant bots, as well as grab credits without fear of being blasted to oblivion."
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| − | ::A scout without milk is useless. Slowdown via milking is one of the most important jobs of the scout. Milk upgrades have priority.
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| − | :"As a Scout, you are usually the only one that can catch up to Scout Robots early in the mission."
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| − | ::If scout robots slip through your defense, your defense is bad and you will fail anyway. The scout doesn't have enough damage output to deal with more than one or two already damaged scout robots.
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| − | One more tip for the scattergun, which is the best primary in my opinion: Don't upgrade it unless you've fully upgraded your milk, speed, jumping and perhaps resistences. And because of the big clip size it's the better choice compared to the Force-A-Nature; you will tend to spend some money in your clipsize with the latter, which isn't needed for the scattergun. --[[User:Ohpleez|Ohpleez]] 03:28, 28 November 2012 (PST)
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