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− | Stuff like "click jump" or "click crouch" does not sound right. You don't click keys on your keyboard. You PRESS them. --[[User:Sadface|Sadface]] 00:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
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− | == Outdated? == | + | == Keep this page? == |
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− | Many of these exploits are patched but they are still present on the page. [[User:Ond kaja|Ond kaja]] 20:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
| + | It seems kind of weird to have a whole page documenting unintended ways to gain advantages, now that it's explicitly not allowed under the Bugs guidelines. I suggest we either delete this page (as many of these seem very outdated) or merge it with [[Glitches]] to form one "Bugs" page. I'm not in favour of this, though, as each page has a bugs section and all bugs should be there instead.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:33, 27 October 2023 (UTC) |
− | : If an exploit has been patched, please move it to the "Patched exploits" section -[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 20:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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− | == Documenting current exploits ==
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− | ...it looks like there hasn't been a problem with it previously, but how do other people feel about it? Personally, I'm torn; yeah, we should be documenting as much as possible, and yeah, it is relevant, but we shouldn't be providing potential 'sploiters with ammo for their arsenal. I dunno. Thoughts? ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 01:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | :I've always wondered why there were step-by-step tidbits on how to perform these exploits, or mention unpatched exploits. Civilian I'm fine with but others just don't need to be revealed for information's sake. Same for glitches/bugs. --[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 01:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | ::I'm not sure we should be documenting how to do perform the exploits until they are fixed, but I don't see why they shouldn't at least be reported here. Usually the server owners report the bugs quickly to Valve and anything of a significantly game-changing nature is usually fixed within a few days, so harm would be kept to a minimum. Also, anything written here will have likely already done its tour on SPUF, so I doubt we could spread any information as quickly as they can. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|link=User:Alex2539]] -- 02:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | :::{{c|support|I agree}} with this solution. Note that they exist, without posting specific instructions on how to do them. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 02:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | ::::{{c|oppose}} If we say "these things are exploitable", some users are going to find out how to do them (whether by searching or experimenting in game). We don't want to be responsible for certain players having a bad experience because of information we've decided to list.-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 02:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | :::::{{c}} So your opinion is that we should leave current, active exploits out of the game (at least for the PC version) entirely? ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 02:20, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | ::::::{{c}} We can't really document past exploits since some tend to make their returns, such as the sentry exploit. --[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 02:22, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | :::::::{{c}} So you're saying we should delete the [[Exploits]] page entirely? ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 02:25, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | :::::{{c|support}} People will find out these exploits one way or another. I figure it's reasonable if we document them, but not how to do them. [[User:TheMedik|TheMedik]] 02:24, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | ::::::We shouldn't list active exploits that can have a negative influence on game-play, that's my opinion. <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:RJackson|RJackson]] ([[User talk:RJackson|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/RJackson|contribs]]) </small>
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− | A lot of the current listed exploits are ''completely'' new to me, and I have never seen them referenced anywhere. I think I could easily remove half the currently-listed exploits, because there's no documentation to back them up, and I've never seen them anywhere. What do we do? I'm itching to re-write this thing. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 03:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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− | : I agree. It'll make the article shorter if we can remove patched exploits. That said, I would like to preserve the history of TF2's exploits. Maybe as a new page? [[User:ShunyValdez|ShunyValdez]] 03:22, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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