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− | ==A few to add== | + | {{Talk archive |
− | Shouldn't Christian Brutal Sniper, Gentlementlemen, and Gottam be added? [[User:Audioclave|Audioclave]] 15:08, 3 December 2011 (PST)
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− | ==Some memes to add and remove== | + | == Weed Soldier == |
− | The fact that some memes on here I have never heard of is a little shocking since if have played the game since 2007. I still believe some of these don't have enough popularity to be on here, and some have been overlooked. | + | The Weed Soldier refers to this image: |
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| + | User PantsPlant Weed Soldier.jpg |
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| + | The image was originaly created as an edit of a scene from TEChulus's video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZgZ8JrSbpg Crystal Weed] which came out on September of 2013, it is unknown who created the edit, but one of the first notable uses of the image was done by the tf2 youtuber Rapid シ as the thubnail of his video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8crH4zBPbk&t=3s WEED IS NOW LEGAL IN TF2] which came out on February of 2015. |
| + | ;Resurgence |
| + | Up to this point the Weed Soldier image (also dubbed :weed:) was just a random tf2 joke image, nothing more, nothing less, but the meme became very big in the community of the youtuber Chimparoncito around 2022, the image started to see use, in game on Conscientious Objector and outside of it like in profile pictures on several sites (mostly on steam), and even recreated in other games like MineCraft, this was all done because of challenge streams Chimparoncito did in which he closes the stream if he sees the image at all while playing tf2, the more times he did the challenge the harder it became, and the more popular the image became in the tf2 community at large. |
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− | Some memes to add:
| + | At this point the image started to have variations of it created on the other classes, and was commonly used together with by this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsiYj6KOvXc&t=80s remix of Rocket Jump Waltz](created on April of 2020 by skylinee). |
− | *Pootis and Gottam (did I mention that Gottam is the first TF2 meme invented?)
| + | Its most recent notable use happened on July of 2023 when the youtuber Richter Overtime used an [https://freeimage.host/i/JHeUCfR edited version of the image] with the word "Its Over" for the thumbnail of his video about the tf2 leak [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8un3dBLVSCw "Explaining TF2's Biggest Leak Ever"] |
− | *This Is Scout, Rainbows Make Me Cry!
| + | ;Popular Uses Of The Image |
− | *Bonk Remixes and or Songs
| + | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UUZUyjVc_c 1]-common edit video of the classes. |
− | *Need A Dispenser Here!
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− | : Agreed. Need a Dispenser and Pootis especially, not so sure about Rainbows Make Me Cry. And don't forget Gentlementlemen. [[User:Ampers&|Ampers&]] 17:26, 12 July 2011 (PDT) | + | [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fi5b2qux6hhfb1.png 2]-loadout created in tf2. |
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| + | [https://freeimage.host/i/JHeSSVf 3]-the image recreated insdie of MineCraft. |
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| + | [https://freeimage.host/i/JHeUOgV 4]-a fad created about Richter Overtime's use of the :Weed: in the thumbnail of his video. |
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| + | [https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fdwhf8xjl1zdb1.png 5]-:weed: on r/place 2023. |
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| + | [[User:PantsPlant|PantsPlant]] |
| + | ([[User talk:PantsPlant|talk]]) 00:49, 17 September 2023 (UTC) |
| + | [[User:PantsPlant|PantsPlant]] ([[User talk:PantsPlant|talk]]) 16:27, 17 September 2023 (UTC) |
| + | :Personally, I think although it does see a lot of usage, it isn't really notable. It seems like only a few notable YouTubers have the image as a popular fad in their community and it has only appeared a few times in the TF2 community as a whole. The most usage the fad sees seems to be related to one person's usage of the image in a thumbnail, which the thumbnail itself is the focus and not the Soldier image itself.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 01:01, 17 September 2023 (UTC) |
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− | And don't worry, all of these are on KYM.
| + | ::I agree with GrampaSwood. While I've seen it a few times, it doesn't seem notable enough to be mentioned here. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 02:39, 17 September 2023 (UTC) |
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− | Now, one to remove. (I will add reasons why)
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− | *Seeman (not a reconazied meme; doesn't have allot of views
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− | [[User:PoopManX|<span style="text-shadow:#5885A2 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#5885A2"><tt><big><u>'''PoopManX'''</u></big></tt></font>]] [[File:User PoopManX sprite.png|31px|link=User:PoopManX]]</span> 18:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
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− | ==Future Additions== | + | == Demoman MOO! == |
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− | This page is pretty full, but it is still missing:
| + | {{Quotation|Demoman saying Move up!|'''MOO'''-ve that gear up!|sound=Demoman_moveup02.wav}} |
− | *Humping Sniper[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hUH4vcK0EU]
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− | *HWM models in Garry's Mod (although this is probably part of a bigger Garry's Mod category) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqDaMSk00wA]
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− | *Golden Machine Gun[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-golden-machine-gun]
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− | Are these possible additions? --[[User:Focusknock|Focusknock]] 11:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
| + | The Demoman Moo meme is a meme where people play as Demo in 2fort, then they go to the cow right next to the entrance to the intel, and they say Move up while laughing right before Demo says "that." It should sound like he's saying MOO! |
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− | On the russian page, there is a TF2 rick roll. Can someone stranslate that to english?
| + | --[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) 15:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)Slimyboi500 [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] |
− | - Mentlegen
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− | :Never heard of any except the infamous HWM models. | + | :I don't think this is nearly notable enough, considering it's only limited to 2Fort and doesn't see much widespread usage otherwise.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:17, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
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− | sure,i'll do it --[[User:Condemned|Condemned]] 20:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | ::I hadn't heard of it until now, so yeah, I don't think it's notable enough either. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 17:14, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
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− | I think painis cupcake is much more well known than the This is what I see with my eyes closed. If you doubt me, go to any micspam server and just listen in :). --[[User:Kurathedog|Kurathedog]] 02:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | == Tick Tock == |
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− | I don't heard about these memes except HWM models. I think that is better put the Christian Brutal Sniper. --[[User:Jagoba RL|Jagoba RL]] 17:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | What about adding the fad of the buff mercs posing to Tick Tock by Joji? [[User:CriticalFeesh|CriticalFeesh]] ([[User talk:CriticalFeesh|talk]]) 12:09, 21 October 2023 (UTC) |
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− | I find it odd that while the page mentions the Odd Scout (which had three or four videos), Seeman and his lesser-known companion, Seeldier, aren't talked about. [[User:Wing Dairu|Wing Dairu]] 05:35, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
| + | :This meme mostly exists in the format of the same few GIFs/images with the same music, I don't think this fits the definition of "fad" very well. It doesn't see much widespread usage outside of the same format (the GIFs with the music under it), unlike other fads here which come in many different forms.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:17, 21 October 2023 (UTC) |
− | :I never even heard of those (even though I don't spend my day watching TF2 gmod videos on youtube), so I'm inclined to say their popularity and notability isn't skyrocket high to include them in the "memes" article. [[File:Killicon_backstab.png|22px|link=User_talk:Stabnrun]] [[User:Stabnrun|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:black">Stab !</span>]] 19:01, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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− | ::I've heard of seeman, but never of seeldier nor odd scout. And I spend my days watching TF2 gmod videos. Still, odd scout has lots of views. Most seeman videos have far less. [[User:Lord Melchior|Lord Melchior]] 16:26, 7 January 2011 (UTC) | |
− | What about the In A Nutshell videos, like 2Fort In A Nutshell, Dustbowl In A Nutshell or Achievement_idle in a nutshell? Those have a characteristic enough style and they're getting popular/widespread enough that it might merit mentioning down the line. [[User:Reverie Planetarian|Reverie Planetarian]] 10:51, 11 February 2011 (EST)
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− | I defenetly say that "...in a nutshell is a popular fad." [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 00:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
| + | == The heavy is dead == |
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− | ==Oluapgineer== | + | {{Quotation|'''The Medic''' reacting to Heavy's Death|'''HEAVY IS DEAD!'''|sound=Medic mvm class is dead03.wav}} |
| + | The Heavy is Dead is a Community fad made by [https://www.youtube.com/@Delak_Antoine Delak] on YouTube. |
| + | ;Video |
| + | ''The video may be blocked for some users because it is age-restricted.'' |
| + | {{Youtube|oiuyhxp4w9I}} |
| + | ;"Family Friendly" version |
| + | {{Youtube|wV3fNs53o4k}} |
| + | ----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:29, 23 October 2023 (UTC) |
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− | Oluap should be honored to have his fad on the page....
| + | :Not sure this is really a fad, more just a popular video that people quote. It has largely died down and there isn't any example of it beyond the video itself. I'd vote no<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 22:53, 23 October 2023 (UTC) |
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− | [[File:User Thunder Pyro.jpg|45px|This is my weapon.]][[User:Thunder|<span style="text-shadow:black0px 0px 3px;"><font color: "#EEE8AA"><tt><big>'''Thunderstorm'''</big></tt></font>]] </span> 06:38, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
| + | == Add Madcap == |
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− | == W+M1 ==
| + | I think we can add Madcap on here. There's art, loadouts, his theme music and even recently a voice actor. [[User:FrancePain|FrancePain]] ([[User talk:FrancePain|talk]]) 13:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC) |
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− | "An infamous video showed a player experiencing success with the Pyro by only using the "W" key and "Mouse1" (Moving forward and primary fire). This led to the creation of the term W + M1,"
| + | :I think it would need to prove more long-term popularity. It seems like the popularity is also largely contained to r/tf2. There may also be issues with the fact that the class itself is AI-generated.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 14:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC) |
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− | This is inaccurate. The term W+M1 existed way before the video (which dates from 2009), right about when TF2 started if I recall correctly. I'm editing this. [[User:Stabnrun|Stabnrun]] 02:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC) | + | == This is a bucket == |
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− | :{{c|Support}} If this is suggesting that we add W+M1 to the list, then I can't agree more. [[User:PoopManX|<span style="text-shadow:#5885A2 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#5885A2"><tt><big><u>'''PoopManX'''</u></big></tt></font>]] [[File:User PoopManX sprite.png|31px|link=User:PoopManX]]</span> 18:20, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
| + | {{Quotation|'''The Spy'''|This is a bucket.|sound=This_is_a_bucket.wav}} |
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− | == Scout is delicious: Not well known? ==
| + | This is a bucket is a community fad from the scene of [[Expiration Date]]. |
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− | Sorry, what? --[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 02:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | '''Video''' |
| + | {{Youtube|JmSqorj-EC0}} |
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− | :Added it back already. [[User:Zoolooman|Zoolooman]] 02:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | In this scene, Spy says "This is a bucket." and Soldier reacts to it with "Dear God.". And Spy says "There's more." and Soldier responds "No." |
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− | ::Alrighty. Was just curious as why it wouldn't be well known when youtube is lit up with responses to it. No harm no foul! --[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 02:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC) | + | "This is a bucket" has a page on [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/this-is-a-bucket Know Your Meme]. |
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− | == a whole LOAD of memes: should I add them all? ==
| + | [[User:Yellow Devil|Yellow Devil]] ([[User talk:Yellow Devil|talk]]) 09:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC) |
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− | i know the whereabouts of a few seemingly million, do i give the link or add them all? <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Yourdeadthatsgoodamen|Yourdeadthatsgoodamen]] ([[User talk:Yourdeadthatsgoodamen|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Yourdeadthatsgoodamen|contribs]]) </small>
| + | :This cannot be a community fad. This is a funny scene created by Valve, the community doesn't add onto it at all.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC) |
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− | There really aren't that many TF2 Fads, let alone memes. I don't advise adding as many popular youtube video characters as you know of etc. If you have any suggestions, suggest it here in the talk page, and you'll get some input from the rest of the members. Also, remember to sign your posts with '''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>''' (four tildes). -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
| + | == SeeS or SooS? == |
− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 00:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | == Cleanup tag? ==
| + | SeeS or SooS? is a community fad made by notna. |
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− | Is there a need for it anymore, or should it just be removed now that the article has been cleaned up? [[User:Stabnrun|Stab !]] 17:05, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
| + | '''Video''' |
| + | {{Youtube|-fzhPyDVleo}} |
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− | == Lines ==
| + | In the video, Soldier with a tiny head says "SeeS" and then Heavy with a tiny head like the Soldier says "SooS." And as this scene crosses over faster and faster, Spy says "SooS." Afterwards, Soldier makes a sad face and a seconds later, Medic says "SeeS." |
− | Strange decision,deleting those horizontal lines.Looks ugly. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Condemned|Condemned]]''' ([[User talk:Condemned|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Condemned|contribs]]) 20:18, 24 November 2010</small>
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− | :Uh.. no it doesn't? "nope.avi" and all the others that you added "lines" for are actually sub-"categories" of the main "Youtube memes" category, so they shouldn't be "promoted" like that just because it looks ugly... [[User:Stabnrun|Stab !]] 20:49, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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− | == Demopan ==
| + | There are a lot of variations of the fad on YouTube. |
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− | I think this counts as a meme now but I don't know enough to add it. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 23:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
| + | [[User:Yellow Devil|Yellow Devil]] ([[User talk:Yellow Devil|talk]]) 12:28, 20 August 2024 (UTC) |
− | : Wait a couple months. If it's still around, it can be added. [[User:Bonzi77|Bonzi77]] 09:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
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− | :: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File%3ADemopan.jpg Is a picture of Demopan. I believe it's currently a meme right now, but again, let us way a month. If it still continues, then we can call that a meme. A meme takes time. [[User:Wintergreen|Wintergreen]] 00:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
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− | Not to hijack this section, but speaking of other well-known memes, the Gentlementlemen series (including the other videos with that song, despite the realm of the meme extending far beyond TF2) is also be notable enough to be added, as well as possibly Polite/Crazed Sniper (though it seems they only have one video each). —[[User:KarasuGamma|烏Γ]] ''<sup>([[User talk:KarasuGamma|kaw at me]])</sup>, 19:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)''
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− | == One of the most obvious is ignored == | + | :Doesn't seem noteworthy imo. There are plenty of voice line mixing fads like this, but they're not noteworthy.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:38, 20 August 2024 (UTC) |
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− | And something officially recognized and '''''added to the game''''' - FYI I Am A Spy. —[[User:KarasuGamma|烏Γ]] ''<sup>([[User talk:KarasuGamma|kaw at me]])</sup>, 07:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)''
| + | == Mimi-Sentry/Robots in General== |
| + | [https://i.imgur.com/wkiomH9.jpeg An example of anthropomorphism of the Engineer's buildings]. [https://www.deviantart.com/cpnitro/art/Sentry-Family-982948885 Original post here]<br> |
| + | Originally starting out as a fad in 2023, "Mimi-Sentry" refers to an anthromorphic personification of the Mini-Sentry of the Engineer as a robotic female. The most common depiction is to portray "Mimi" as the Engineer's daughter as a humorous extrapolation of an Engineer tip. "Mimi-Sentry" reached the point of there being Steam Workshop mods that changed the Engineer's buildings into the robots in question. Various animations often portray "Mimi" as a michevious "daughter" of the Engineer, or remaking Engineer memes replacing him with the "Mimi Sentry". The anthropomorphism quickly spread to not only the other Engineer buildings but even weapons of the other TF2 classes and even into other games. In general the Dispencer is referred to as "Miss Spencer" and the Teleporters are portrayed as "twins", which ultimate leads to portrayls as the Engineer and his buildings as a literal family. |
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− | Hmm, a Community Manager on Knowyourmeme.com had this to say:
| + | The TF2 community often uses "Mimi-Sentry" as a meta-joke of how desperate/lacking in updates the game was to the point of creating "Mimi-Sentry" as a fad. Many fans welcomed the meme while others were ciritical of it, often complaining about how the robots were often depicted in less than savory circumstances. Despite this, the general consensus of the "Mimi Sentry" is to treat "her" as a wholesome loyal daughter to the Engineer.<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Akumaking1|Akumaking1]]''' ([[User talk:Akumaking1|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Akumaking1|contribs]]) 03:58 CEST 27/09/2024</small> |
| + | :Please remember to sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. |
| + | :I'm not really sure how popular this meme is, or if this meme is actually really widespread. I'm personally inclined to believe this to be less of a meme and more of a popular fanart character, which I'm not sure fits on this article.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 07:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
| + | ::It feels like it was a brief trend a year ago and hasn't had much staying power. Also I'm with swood that it's essentially just fan art. [[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Mediarch'''}}]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[User talk:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Talk'''}}]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''My Edits'''}}]] 14:05, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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− | There are obviously a TON of videos, image macros, and every type of media one can think of for Team Fortress 2.
| + | == Sandvich == |
− | The game has a rich history in it’s short life, with lots of updates, and crossovers into other memes. | + | The [[Sandvich]] is an unlockable item for the [[Heavy]], and is famous for the various, often humorous quotes he will say when using the item. In various animations and comics, it's popular to depict the Heavy as utterly obsessed with the Sandvich to the point of ignorning everything else, going into a depressive state if he can't eat it, etc. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Akumaking1|Akumaking1]]''' ([[User talk:Akumaking1|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Akumaking1|contribs]]) 12:38 CEST, 30 September 2024</small> |
− | The problem is that not all of these things are memetic items. The vast majority of it is fanart. The game is insanely popular, I play it myself, but it’s the kind of thing that will naturally be parodied. It’s like the Britney Spears of video games. And with video games today becoming more popular than movies, TF2 is a well-represented force in the media regardless of what any particular instance looks like. Any big video game will inspire parody and fanart."
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− | That was a year ago, and shortly after the said article was posted as an attempted meme, it was deadpooled. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 09:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
| + | :This is not really a community fad, this is a joke started by Valve itself with the numerous voice lines regarding Sandvich, and it's simply continued and turned into an extreme version by the community.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC) |
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− | == Knowyourmeme as a guideline. == | + | == Kitty0706 == |
| + | Kitty0706 (real name Colin Wyckoff) was a popular GMod animator on YouTube, famous for creating animations like "Heavy's Retarded Holiday" or "Team Fabulous 2" which depict the TF2 characters (and often other characters from other games ) in often comical, surreal situations. Kitty0706 is often considered the golden standard of GMod animations of TF2. |
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− | I've been thinking, and I hate to be the one to say this, but as much as we love the items on the Memes page, a lot of these things are not Memes. They are just huge fads within the Team Fortress community. A big bunch of these ''have'' managed to cultivate Meme status, but we really can't list every Team Fortress 2 inside joke as a born Meme. Most people outside of the TF2 community have never heard of these, even the Meme filled /b/tards. I think on a wiki (an official one at that) we should be more correct in our terminology.
| + | In January 2015, Colin Wyckoff died due to leukimia, and his loss was mourned by the greater community, with other content creators creating videos to honor him. On January 10th, 2020, a Team Fabulous 2 redraw collaboration dubbed "Team Fabulous 2: Renamiated" was announced on Twitter to honor Kitty0706 and raise money for leukemia research.<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Akumaking1|Akumaking1]]''' ([[User talk:Akumaking1|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Akumaking1|contribs]]) 12:38 CEST, 30 September 2024</small> |
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− | I propose that we either use knowyourmeme.com (they have a status: confirmed/denied on the right) as a resource to check before adding content to this page, move some of the items to a differently named page or section, or list their current Meme status beside the proposed Meme.
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− | | + | :Kitty0706 is not a community fad. A page covering Kitty would have to be under the Notable Persons Project, however, policy states that community personalities should not be covered so unfortunately we can't cover him here or on his own page.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC) |
− | Before anyone discredits knowyourmeme.com they have a stricter system than here when it comes to accepting and they do a hell of a lot of research before announcing something as a meme.
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− | *'''Gentlemen''' - Confirmed Meme.
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− | *'''Poor and Irish''' - Not a Meme, not even a single reference or attempt. An inside joke.
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− | *'''Saxton Hale''' - Deadpooled, it just TF2 fan base clone of a real Meme. An inside joke.
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− | *'''Spycrab''' - Confirmed Meme.
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− | *'''Demopan''' - Confirmed Meme.
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− | *'''Voice Clip Mashups''' - I checked, but this is pretty obviously not a Meme.
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− | *'''nope.avi''' - Currently being researched.
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− | *'''Scout is Delicious''' - Confirmed Meme.
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− | *'''Painis Cupcake''' - Deadpooled, however reopened for research.
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− | *'''Vagineer''' - Currently being researched, though looks promising.
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− | *'''Odd Scout''' - No references at all.
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− | *'''Seeman''' - Not a Meme, give it time.
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− | *'''Christian Brutal Sniper''' - Not a Meme.
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− | The problem with most of these, is they are simply either inside jokes or things that have a fan base and have been cultivated within the TF2 community because of this. It's like calling a TV show a Meme, just because it has a fan base that quote it in parodied situations, they are not the same thing. Even noting them as a cult status or something similar would be better.
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− | To those sad at the idea to see some of these go or moved somewhere else, remember, a lot of these have yet to grow, and many will eventually reach said status. This page needs a better layout and content style anyway. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 09:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | :The problem with using Know Your Meme is that there are some memes (Saxton or nope.avi for example) that are heavily used within the TF2 community but rarely used outside of it (as opposed to, say, "Gentlemen" or "Spycrab") and so they might get deadpooled even though they're used a lot. But I agree, this needs a major MAJOR rewrite, most of the "Youtube Memes" are just popular videos that I personally never heard of (and by "popular" I mean only a few few portion of the YT/GMod/TF2 community has seen them) and there are some old memes that should be referenced too. Who remembers "OVERTIME OVERTIME OVAAHTIME"? [[File:Killicon_backstab.png|22px|link=User_talk:Stabnrun]] [[User:Stabnrun|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:black">Stab !</span>]] 12:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | :: Indeed, but that is partially my point, those not acceptable (or yet acceptable) to sites like that, are not really Memes at all. They are just fads and cult fan comedy that has gained popularity within Team Fortress 2's community. They are nothing but inside jokes and references, so I think we really need to get rid of the whole "Team Fortress 2 and its community are responsible for the birth of a variety of memes." when the game really can't take that much credit. I mean the meme definition is vague at best even if it is taken from wikipedia. The definition of a meme could be applied to many non-meme things. As a whole, we either need to redefine these items as internal fads (with a better title of course) or strip out the non-meme items. Either that or we put them under honorable mentions in a section on the page. Knowyourmeme.com is quite happy to acknowledge the TF2 content as a Meme as long as it gains that status. Many of these are simply... Well, not at that point... I mean I like to consider my self in the know when it comes to the internetz, I have developed custom content for TF2, I lurk youtube etc, but even I have not heard of Seeman for example. They are just VERY popular youtube fan videos that people like. That doesn't make them memes. Otherwise every partner video on youtube would be a meme. As for the whole audio mash up thing, that isn't even a meme at all. While it is widespread in TF2 videos for custom dialogue, people have been doing audio mashup content to gain custom speech since before the damn TV was invented, so that one needs to go either way. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 14:19, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::: Simple solution, we move the page to something like "Fanbase Fads"/"Fan Fads" or something better sounding, then we can add all the popular items as they are. Then at the end of each paragraph for each individual fad, if the fad has reached meme status, we simply add "The "Gentleman" fad has reached Meme status" at the end in bold or something, with the name linking to the knowyourmeme.com page (replacing the fad name with whatever). -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 14:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | :::: For those unsure about how relevent "Fad" or even "Trend" is;
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− | :::: "A fad, sometimes called a trend, meme or a craze, is any form of behavior that develops among a large population and is collectively followed with enthusiasm for some period, generally as a result of the behavior's being perceived as novel in some way.[1] A fad is said to "catch on" when the number of people adopting it begins to increase rapidly."
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− | :::: Considering they even use meme in the opening line, I'd say it was appropriate, giving that the internet's own definition of a meme is a little more specific and in-depth than a fad. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 14:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | :::::I'd definitely agree with moving the page to something a little less rigid and specific, since that would allow for popular non-memes to be included. XP —[[User:KarasuGamma|烏Γ]] ''<sup>([[User talk:KarasuGamma|kaw at me]])</sup>, 19:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)''
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− | :::::I agree with changing the title as "memes" isn't exactly accurate, but changing it to "Community fads" isn't accurate either because it implies that ALL of these "memes" were quickly forgotten shortly after being popular, which isn't true for some of them (Gentlemen, Spycrab, etc.). Changing it to "Community trends" would be a better in my opinion since it says nothing about its duration or popularity. What do you think? [[File:Killicon_backstab.png|22px|link=User_talk:Stabnrun]] [[User:Stabnrun|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:black">Stab !</span>]] 14:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::::::"Trend" ''directly implies'' the duration of popularity. >v> —[[User:KarasuGamma|烏Γ]] ''<sup>([[User talk:KarasuGamma|kaw at me]])</sup>, 17:43, 16 January 2011 (UTC)''
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− | :::::::How does "trend" imply the duration of popularity, really?
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− | :::::::''Trend'': "a line of general direction of movement, a prevailing tendency of inclination, a style or preference, a line of development, or the general movement over time of a statistically detectable change. In a few words, "trend" is a synonym to "tendency"."
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− | :::::::''Fad'': "A phenomenon that becomes popular '''for a very short time'''. From French fade, from Late Latin *fatidus, a blend of Latin fatuus (“foolish”) and vapidus (“vapid”)."
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− | :::::::"Though the term trend may be used interchangeably with fad, a fad is generally considered a fleeting behavior whereas a trend is considered to be a behavior that evolves into a relatively permanent change."
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− | :::::::''Trend'' sounds much less derogatory and more accurate to me, whereas ''fad'' directly implies that these terms were short-lived, when, quite frankly, most of them weren't/aren't. [[File:Killicon_backstab.png|22px|link=User_talk:Stabnrun]] [[User:Stabnrun|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:black">Stab !</span>]] 22:52, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | :::::::: True, but that all depends on your perception of time given the individual scenarios. Leg Warmers were considered a Fad during the 80s, but they were worn for a whole ten years. Then during the 2000s, they made a comeback after a decade of being unworn and unfashionable, and are now as popular as ever amongst teen girls. "Fad" is accurately suitable, given that when the game dies out, only the Memes will likely live on. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 14:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | :Where links to Know Your Meme were placed, I've added whether they are confirmed as memes, or are just submitted. [[User:Shane Alvarado|Shane Alvarado]] 23:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::Sorry, moving this. I was new then, and didn't understand how the order of things worked. [[User:Shane Alvarado|Shane Alvarado]] 13:56, 28 July 2011 (PDT)
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− | == I think this should be featured because... ==
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− | I believe this page should be a featured article because i found it very informational. Newbies might be confused when people talk about spycrabs and W+M1. I actually figured out the meaning of W+M1 on this page. Please make this a featured article.
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− | I have a number of memes that I know that are worthy of mention here. -- [[User:Thunder|Thunder]]
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− | :It seems that this article is still too young to be featured. By this, I mean that it needs some more work, as some people seem to disagree with what fads are currently mentioned in the article. For example, the topic above. I personally think that "The Odd Scout" has no business being in this article. [[User:Shane Alvarado|Shane Alvarado]] 23:08, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | :: I moved your paragraph to the bottom of the page due to it not having a title and thus being above the page content index. I hope you don't mind. On that note, my opinion of your suggestion is that I would hate for something displaying a main character as a Vagina, to be featured on the main page. Memes are not vital/helpful information and some of them are certainly not what a new player would want to see. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 09:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | Ben, any reason you deleted the bit about Snyphurr? Seems like a valid part of the Vagineer series. On another note, I readded the definition of memes to the top, to provide some sort of context for the "recognized meme" notes on Demopan and his colleagues. —[[User:KarasuGamma|烏Γ]] ''<sup>([[User talk:KarasuGamma|kaw at me]])</sup>, 01:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)''
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− | I removed it because I don't think we should be listing every insignificant little detail about their story arc and episode listings etc. I did the same for the Painis Cupcake, I removed a part that links to his other videos.
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− | I think each section should just explain who they are and why they are a Fad/Meme, with links to say their first appearance being relevent. Each paragraph was/is way too big on some of them anyhow. So in short, Snyphurr isn't the Vagineer, so unless he is suddenly a Fad/Meme too, I don't think he should be mentioned. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#476291;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 22:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | Correct me if i am right, but i have not heard about that meme. I have played Tf2 for a time now and i have not heard a single time that someone have talked about Oddscout. So how did it become a meme? [[User:Altair|Altair]] 18:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | It is fairly new. There were 3 videos that involved the Odd Scout, but thats it. It wouldn't be considered a meme, but more of a fad
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− | [[User:Nihilus0|Nihilus0]] 01:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | A Fad? To be honest, i have seen more of Heavydile and Weaslecake than Oddscout. I wouldnt really count it as a fad either, but more of something odd randomness that you just make because that you are bored. If that was ok, why the hell aint L.A.E (Law Abiding Engineer) ok then? [[User:Altair|Altair]] 12:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | : I can assure you, though not a Meme, it is most definitely a Fad. The Odd Scout has a lot of fan art (some of it questionable) and is also referenced occaisonaly during gameplay (I have heard such). The whole point of removing the Meme page and having a Community Fads page, was so that things such as this could be noted. A Fad is low enough, there really isn't a need to lower it to something else. As for Law Abiding Engineer; though popular, it's questionable as to whether this is a Fad. It's pretty much been forgotten about in terms of keeping it alive through joke/reference. Give it time though, it may become a Fad at some point, and as I said, it IS debatable. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamuffin</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 14:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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− | Indeed Bejnamuffin, but the question is, will it have enough time? Or will it collapse like a very strange video with engineer did from the Fads? Nobody knows. [[User:Altair|Altair]] 11:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | == Sven's Condensed list of requested Fads ==
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− | * The "Kiss Me" series of videos
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− | * The "Food debate" series of videos
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− | Lol forgot the signature. [[User:Sven|Sven]] 22:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | :: I don't really think any of those are Fads. I know of a few of them (such as the Food debate) but they're really just popular videos, not fads. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamoose</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 01:48, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::: Why wouldn't the Food Debate, at least, be a fad by now? It's a long, ongoing series, with derivatives. It's better than the "What I see when X Y" series, which could arguably be mentioned here, also. [[User:Sven|Sven]] 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | :::: See now I WOULD consider calling the "What i see when I close my eyes" a fad, though it's not strictly TF2 related so it's not applicable. Beyond the actual videos made by the author, there is little in the way of additional fan created content for the Food Debate. It's a popular video, but nothing more really... -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamoose</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 21:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | :::::Well, it seems that our definitions of the word "Fad" is different, at the very least. I would hardly consider Odd Scout a Fad, but, as your post in the above discussion says, you clearly do. I still think that the Food Debate is more deserving than Odd Scout, given the amount of videos about it. [[User:Sven|Sven]] 21:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::::::If there are any that has a chance here to be on the list, it has to be Weaslecake and the food debate series. Snyphurr? I dont think so. Just a special version made for Vagineer. Jarate Cake dick? It has no chance at all. Also, who is jarate cake dick? The Kiss Me series? Nope. They are starting to get pretty boring. They would have a chance if it was'nt for that they has been going on for a good while and really boring me out. Sewer Medic? It would have a chance, if gb7zone7 was'nt so lazy that he stoped making the sewer medic. Weasle Cake and the food debate series do i consider. [[User:Altair|Altair]] 11:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | I think we should change it back to memes, and maybe have "Fads" redirect to it. All in favor? [[User:Mentlegen|Mr. Wii]] 23:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | They changed in the first place because many of the fads on this page aren't yet considered memes. [[User:Nihilus0|Nihilus0]] 23:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | :: As Nihilus0 said, there are WAY more fads here than memes, the current system of listing fads then marking the ones that have become memes is a lot neater than the old page. Not only that but if we moved it back, we'd have to lose half of the content. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:
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− | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamoose</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 01:48, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | | This is probably a new fad. It's got a full page of responses now. I guess I could describe it. It consists of a Soldier on the middle point of Badlands staring at the viewer for a brief moment, then declaring the name of a country, such as Russia. The soldier's appearance changes to match the country that it said (For example, "Russia" leads to a Officer's Ushanka on the head.), After a brief moment, a music from the particular country starts playing, and the soldier dances.
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− | [[User:Mentlegen|Mr. Wii]] 18:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | The Staregineer has been added. --[[User:TheJayMaster|TheJayMaster]] 02:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | | I did not say anything about Staregineer! [[User:Mentlegen|Mr. Wii]] 02:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | :: @Mr Wii: I checked that out when you first posted about it above, and it looks like it's almost fad worthy though not a strong one as of yet. Though I do think it's worth discussing.
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− | :: @TheJayMaster: Don't just add random "fads" to the page without discussing it's notability first.
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− | :: @Everyone: Please, everyone remember; all new/recently made fads need to be discussed on this page before being added. Also, remember, just because something IS a fad, it doesn't mean it's notable enough to put on the page. If we put every fad on the wiki we'd have a never ending page of things most people had never heard of. This page is to be treated like the Community Mod pages (VS Saxton Hale for instance). By that I mean we only add the notable fads, and all memes (as they are already notable to become memes in the first place). Long story short, currently I don't think Staregineer is notable. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamoose</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 19:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | *'''Gotchaneer'''
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− | Some are new fads, but I think they could be added to the page. [[User:Nihilus0|Nihilus0]] 05:26, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
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− | Here's a something new I discovered today, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B36BXid7iQ0&feature=player_embedded this is the original video.] Considering it's only about a month old, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not technically a "fad" yet, yet it's got a boatload of Response videos all in the same style.[[User:Xenon91|Xenon91]] 03:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
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− | :It isn't yet, a fad is usually '''MAJOR'''. --[[User:OddPyro|'''OddPyro''']][[Image:Leaderboard class pyro.png|20px]] 17:15, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
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− | Should Dic Soupcan be a recognised meme or is he not famous enough? just wondering. [[User:TehMorganator|{{icon killicon|weapon=showdown}} PWNED NARB!{{icon killicon|weapon=explosion}}]] 17:57, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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− | :I've personally never heard of it, but the "recognized meme" tag, is reserved for actual memes. We can't really debate that one, as if something is a meme, it's strikingly obvious and on "knowyourmeme.com".
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− | :All you can really do is debate whether it is "fad" worthy, which I don't think it is. A quick youtube search pulls out a bunch of videos, but most of them are each from single users uploading multiple jokes on the subject. In other words, "a handful of videos each, but only a few users doing it". Meaning it's not a fad. Yet... My two cents. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Benjamoose</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] ([[User talk:Benjamuffin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Benjamuffin|contribs]])</span> 18:02, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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− | == Sniper Hump ==
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− | Shouldn't the sniper hump be on here?
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− | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJvxMGavSc4 As seen here]
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− | It is done all the time and i have never even heard of half of the other stuff that is on this page... [[User:Bakkerthehacker|Bakkerthehacker]] 00:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
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− | :Uh, nope. *Ep 3 delay* [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 00:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::I personally don't think it needs to be here, as it isn't really a fad as it is something funny to watch/do. I don't see people going around going "Hey, ultimate Sniper hump party!" However, I ''do'' see people going "Hey, ultimate Spycrab party!" <big> — </big>[[User:Xenak|<span style="text-shadow:lime 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#AA1DC6"><big>'''Xenak'''</big></font>]]</span> <small>(</small>[[User_talk:Xenak|<span style="text-background:white 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#C419D0"><small>'''Talk'''</small></font>]]<small>|</small>[[Special:Contributions/Xenak|<span style="text-shadow:white 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#C419D0"><small>'''Contribs''']]</small></font></span><small>)</small> 05:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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− | == Do we really need this page? ==
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− | It doesn't feel like it's really necessary to have a page documenting a bunch of videos some guy makes where he cuts apart some TF2 quotes to make them say vulgar things. It's just obnoxious. I'm aware I'm in the minority here but I just find most of these to be really, really stupid. [[User:Evang7|Evang7]] 18:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
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− | :I don't really like this page, but it doesn't really hurt anyone being up. '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 18:59, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
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− | :We don't need it...then again, we don't need editors, either. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
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− | == Notable Fads ==
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− | As some have probably noticed, a good portion of this page is now gone. This was done after a discussion on the IRC about the noteability of random Youtube videos that don't really influence the game at all and aren't known well enough both outside and within TF2. So here's where we are with the fads.
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− | :Crazy Legs: Notable for being on the blog... and not much else. It was on the blog though, so not much we can do.
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− | :Demopan: Stout Shako for 2 refined (there's no way this isn't noteable. One of the most well known and most used TF2 memes)
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− | :Nope.avi: Has evolved outside of TF2 and is a proper meme
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− | :Spycrab: Valve officially talks about it on the Spy update and made a taunt for Spy about it
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− | :Saxton Hale: Used in tons of TF2 media and known outside of TF2.
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− | :Gentlemen: Mentioned in Meet the Spy (somewhat), but this is another one like Nope. It's moved beyond TF2.
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− | :Poor and Irish: I'm not sure how notable this is, or how much of a "fad" it really is.
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− | :Crazy Legs: Not really well known at all. It's only claim to fame is being on the blog, which gives it a lot of credit.
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− | :FYI I'm a Spy be added to the page. It has TWO achievements related to it, plus one of the winners of the Saxxys used the meme.
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− | So, I expect rage in the future, probably an edit war. Maybe even a few good old fashioned bans. But this was discussed and it all makes sense when you sit and think about what is actually noteable or not. When you ask a random TF2 player who Christian Brutal Sniper is, do they know? Because I'm an average TF2 player and I didn't know.
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− | [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 01:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | :I also question Poor and Irish. But yeah, there is going to be so much debate over this. I guess I would prefer to stay out of it, but I don't know. [[User:Shane Alvarado|Shane Alvarado]] 05:51, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::Poor and Irish is used as the description for the Towering Pillar of Hats, but not much else. I don't, personally, think that is notable though. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 14:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | == Swordvan ==
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− | There's now been 2 official references to this, one in Meet the Sniper, and now one in the doctor's office picture from the blog. I'd say that's enough for me to warrant a mention on this page. How do other people feel? [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:23, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | :Care to explain those references a bit more? Where in Meet the Sniper, and where in that image, is there a reference to this? By the way, I had to look up what Swordvan is. --'''[[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]]''' · '''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 23:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | :: The bumper sticker on Sniper's van says "My other van is a swordvan" and in the pic of the doctor's office, on the eye test board, the letters spell "swordvan" [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 23:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | :::Well noticed! And I've seen those videos so many times... Get a couple of good-quality screenshots and you might just be allowed to stick them here. --'''[[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]]''' · '''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 19:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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− | ::::I would have never noticed that. Amazing find. {{User:Hooper/sig2}} 21:00, 29 June 2011 (PDT)
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− | == Vagineer + Christian Brutal Sniper ==
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− | Now, as this wiki is meant to be as ''informative as possible'', I think these should be added, as they are both recognized memes (i think) and present in the [[VS Saxton Hale Mod]]. [[User:Rocket Ship BBQ|Rocket Ship BBQ]] 16:25, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
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− | : No, relatively unknown outside of the TF2 community, and not present at all in-game. They are merely popular YouTube videos, and aren't even that popular. This page is now geared more for either memes that have left TF2 (Nope, Gentlemen and Demopan) or were acknowledged by Valve (Spycrab, Bacon Legs, Saxton Hale, FYI I'm a Spy) [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 17:24, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
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− | :: [[VS Saxton Hale Mod]] is still a strong community mod, and these characters are two of the four core main characters. To not have any information on them feels lacking. [[User:Software2|Software2]] 01:01, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
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− | == Demopan2.png ==
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− | Is it possible to use my Uploaded IMAGE?
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− | Image is ''unused''.
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− | Direct xD 05:33, 16 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :Not really - it isn't any more notable than the hundred other demopan spoof posters that exist. Please remember to sign your name with four tilde symbols, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> This automatically adds your username and the date of your post, don't type your name manually. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 18:10, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
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− | :Nope. Simple as that. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:14, 30 July 2011 (PDT)
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− | == As Drunk as I like? (Good Demoman song) ==
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− | Is the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hn2ZR8Se6w| Good Demoman Song] Song a noteworthy fad?
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− | The Good Demoman is the combination of Suika Ibuki's pre-battle theme "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLswa5g08Y0| As Drunk as I Like]" from Touhou 10.5: Scarlet Weather Rhapsody and the Demoman's initial dialogue from Meet the Demoman. [[User:Flashn00b|Flashn00b]] 02:02, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :No, because it is not a fad. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|47px|link=User:Alex2539|Alex2539]] - {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Alex2539|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Alex2539|contribs]])</sub> -- 02:14, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | == Requested move ==
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− | Community Fads > Community fads [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 20:28, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :{{c|Support}}, per standard Wiki formatting. [[User:Coreycubed|coreycubed]] / [[User talk:Coreycubed|talk]] 20:31, 22 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | Just thought i would ask your opinions before adding it
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− | There is no fire texture, the hat may not be perfectly positioned, there is no clipping issues anywhere except for the unavoidable arm thing, but what do you guys think? [[User:Masterlegodude|Masterlegodude]] 23:37, 27 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :What was wrong with the old picture? Your new one's good, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 13:19, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :: The one that is already there is the original picture that started the meme. For "posterity's" sake I think it should remain. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|47px|link=User:Alex2539|Alex2539]] - {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Alex2539|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Alex2539|contribs]])</sub> -- 13:27, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :::http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Demopan_Large.png This picture of the Demopan that is used on top of the Community Fads page is in the 'Improve Bad Images' page due to the fire overlay and hat positioning, so i've fixed that and given the Demopan a better pose to show off ALL of his items, including the Charge N Targe, i don't want to change the picture in the Demopan area below, it's the one on the top of the page [[User:Masterlegodude|Masterlegodude]] 18:56, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :::: Looks real nice, but is the frying pan positioned correctly? It looks a little high. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:58, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | :::::[http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/903/panpositioning.jpg panpositioning.jpg] Excuse the sharp edges, the laptop doesn't support anti-aliasing (though it does support the higher quality textures), i don't use it for picture taking anyway [[User:Masterlegodude|Masterlegodude]] 19:56, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | ::::::Well why didn't you say so! Looks good, under close examination I can see why the old one had the improvement tag. Yours is certainly better anyway, you might as well go ahead and replace it. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 09:06, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | ::::::: yea, I'd say upload it. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 10:50, 29 August 2011 (PDT)
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− | Vagineer and Painis Cupcake are totally TF2 Fads!!! --[[User:ScoutKast|ScoutKast]] 20:32, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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− | == Voice Commands fit into Fads? ==
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− | I was wondering if some of the voice commands said by the classes would count as fads, most notably:"Need a Dispenser Here!","Poot Dispenser Here!", and "Gotta Move that Gear up!". These are commonly used in the game in the form of mic spam and used on the internet as well. I think these would be fine additions to the page, but i'm not exactly sure if they are okay additions.[[User:AnthonyX|AnthonyX]] 19:27, 15 September 2011 (PDT)
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− | :I don't think any of them really count as fads. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 13:35, 16 September 2011 (PDT)
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− | == "I have no idea!!!" ==
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− | Is this a meme?
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− | [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-have-no-idea--2#.TpQPvvpKT1I Details...] <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Direct xD|Direct xD]]''' ([[User talk:Direct xD|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Direct xD|contribs]]) 10:46, 11 October 2011</small>
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− | : I would say no. It hasn't really caught on like, say, Demopan did. Demopan was fire straight out the gates. I haven't heard/seen IHNI used outside of a TF2 reference either, so it's still pretty local. Perhaps in time this can actually run it's course and become a true meme, and not a forced one. [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 03:18, 11 October 2011 (PDT)
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− | == Did you think I would forget YOU!?! ==
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− | I think that [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B36BXid7iQ0 The Vicious Cycle] should be added to the list now, since it has heaps of responses, and even some from other games, such as [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQZQ-SHl9v8 Killing Floor] and variants of the original as well, such as a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ijuUvYrbA G Major] version and a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR-x2Go4r0Q Brony] version too. Also, maybe consider [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeikvoqQ-s "I HAVE NO IDEA!"] again as a Fad, since it's a recognized Meme and has outside directs to it, such as [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrYxqaov7E4 this one] here. So maybe consider those two for the list again? [[File:Nemesis RED.png|19px|Yes I'm Dominating you. GET USED TO IT]][[User:Lancer anti-tank Rocket|<nowiki>[UGS 2nd]</nowiki>]][[User Talk:Lancer anti-tank Rocket|Lancer]] [[Special:Contributions/Lancer anti-tank Rocket|@nti-tank]] [[User:Lancer anti-tank Rocket/Armoury|Rocket]][[File:Nemesis BLU.png|19px|Yes I'm Dominating you. GET USED TO IT!]] 11:51, 25 November 2011 (GMT)
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− | == "x is a recognized and confirmed meme" ==
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− | Just because something has an article on KYM doesn't mean it's a "recognised and confirmed" meme. Anything can be of "meme" status, so I don't see why KYM articles need to be pointed out multiple times in the article as if it's some sort of achievement. Just my two cents. --[[User:Fiskie|Fiskie]] 19:53, 21 February 2012 (PST)
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− | :As an addendum, remember KYM is the place where people are just monetizing from other people's content. Do not take the site seriously.--[[User:Fiskie|Fiskie]] 19:55, 21 February 2012 (PST)
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− | == Wait, no Propane nightmares? ==
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− | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzG_syyvWgc --[[User:Salvoilmiosi|Salvoilmiosi]] 04:04, 1 November 2012 (PDT)
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− | There's only a few community fads in the list, and there are still plenty more. Like, Ninja Spy, Vagineer, Seeman, and Seeldier. Shouldn't we add them to the list? And my favorite by engineer, GOTTAMGOTTAMGOTTAMGOTTAM (Gotta move dat gear up!) [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 10:27, 11 November 2012 (PST)
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− | :Well, most of the fads you brought up aren't popular enough to be seen or brought by Valve in anyway. To be a fad, one must be able to tell exactly what it is at first glance and I don't think too many people are familiar with Seeman or Seeldier. [[File:Killicon_explosion.png|50px]] [[User:Bruss48|<span style="color:black;font-size:15px;font-family:'Impact'">Bruss48</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Bruss48|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Bruss48|C]])</sub> [[File:Killicon_explosion.png|50px]] 11:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)
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− | Why isn't he on the page? Pretty much everyone thinks he's a meme/fad.
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− | [[User:Kalle198|Kalle198]] 04:44, 17 March 2013 (PDT)
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− | :{{c|support}} He has a theme song, explosive posters, movie poster spoofs, just like demopan... now all we need is a fake class page for Aprils fools day. [[User:Superprototype|Super Prototype... not so super.]] 07:26, 17 April 2013 (PDT)
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− | : Mentioned so many times. To be honest, it wouldn't be very pleasant to have all these things here, with the dirty names. And they aren't really in-game like these actual fads recognized by Valve.
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− | <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:ErnieTheGreatest|ErnieTheGreatest]]''' ([[User talk:ErnieTheGreatest|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/ErnieTheGreatest|contribs]]) </small>
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− | I looked at KnowYourMeme today and found there voice remixes and remakes of popular songs have status confirmed. So - shouldn't they be there? Don't say you didn't saw some of them - Erectin' a gear, Texas Style, Baby by Heavy Bieber etc. Also, I think they are very popular - I already saw tens of them and other tens are flows through internet - and still arise many of them (more or less quality).
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− | As well I think there should be Vagineer - he's almost same popular as Painis Cupcake, he appeared in many videos (as cameo, but primarily as main protagonist or antagonist). Also, just for fun, often normal's Engineers face turn into that Vagineer's in Gmod videos.
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− | What do you think? I will tolerate if you don't agree, but at least Vagineer really should be... [[User:JTCZ|JTCZ]] ([[User talk:JTCZ|talk]]) 13:38, 15 June 2013 (PDT)
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