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== Victory of '68 ==
  
== A question about the articles and others things ==
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I did that bad?  :(
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Apologizing [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 19:26, 2 April 2014 (PDT)
  
In English articles -specially hats- there are some trivia that are being deleting and, well, I would want to know why. Specially for a friend, he really wants to know. I think that these things is due to people editing articles to get the wiki cap. We have one problem with an user and... well, nevermind. Only that question.
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:Accepting of apology. --'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 19:29, 2 April 2014 (PDT)
  
Anyway, I want to thank you for the good job fixing errors, sounds, translations... and, in some days, I could show you a little surprise. Its gonna be awesome, believe me. [[User:Sr Domi|Sr Domi]] 21:35, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Odin Reference  in War! ==
  
:I think the reason for people deleting trivia is because in some cases it tends to get out of control with uninteresting tidbits that have little to do with the article in question. And while there have been a recent upsurge of minor edits for folks hoping to get a wiki cap, I'm not sure if this is one such case. If you feel one user is being disruptive, let us know either here or on IRC. <br>And you're welcome, I'm happy to help fixing any errors for pages. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] {{mod}} 22:29, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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In what way terrible? [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 21:11, 17 April 2014 (PDT)
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It was researched, referenced, and factual? 
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:Do you disagree with the Odin reference? [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 21:20, 17 April 2014 (PDT)
  
::Well, I was talking in general, not about at X article. Well, If you ask me... yes, we have a problem with an user. [[User:Ryo|Ryo]]. One of my pardners on translation even made this to send it to someone. I think that you are the best to choose, because you are working on spanish editing too. Let me copy it:
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Patiently permit me to restart (without the indenture).  
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I hope that you will reconsider my Odin trivia, at least in the core premise, or at least help me revise it to be acceptable. 
  
::"Dear TF2 Wiki Administrator,
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I believe I can reasonably expect that you can recognize that the statue in WAR! is in reference to Odin.  Perhaps the main Odin reference isn’t the problem. But let me back up a bit.
  
::I am writing this message in representation of a group of Spanish volunteer translators, who are editing the Spanish version of this Wiki. The reason for which I write to you is to complain about a user, Ryo, who is interfering in our work.
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When I first saw the MONOCULUS, it immediately reminded me of the [http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/109250/2249285-ThorDurability19-Heat292.jpg Odin’s Eye] monster from ''The Mighty Thor'' series.  I admit, the coincidence of one-eyed god and a one-eyed mercenary slipped past me at that time. I have read WAR! comic a few times, I’m embarrassed to say that I missed the that the statue is Odin for so long.  And how fitting is it to place a god of war in a comic titled War!?  But on page 14, they shove it in your face, eye-to-eye, as it were!
  
::We are aware that a Wiki is an open resource that can be modified by anyone, and we respect that kind of format. Nevertheless, this particular user is screwing up all we manage to do.
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But then, why even place the shield with the statue?  Ravens and spear? Yes. ''Ravens and spear'' is how you tell the reader that the statue is supposed to be Odin. But did Odin have a famous shield?  I am not sure that he did. But even if he did, why put a MONOCULUS-like eye on the shield, when a symbol for the Eye of Odin (cross over a circle) resembles the TF2 trademark?
  
::He barely speaks Spanish correctly, let alone translating an article from English. He is constantly undoing other members' submussions, claiming that our work is inappropriate, when the most inappropriate work is, in fact, his. He does so with a great number of articles, several times a day.
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OK,
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#A God of War statue in a comic titled WAR!  Fitting, yes, but why?  Wouldn’t any old statue do for the beheading demo?  Why not a famous statue?  Michelangelo’s David?  Or Rodan’s Thinker?  No. ''Who'' the statue is is important here.
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#Not Mars, not Ares, with their heads full of eyeballs, but the one-eyed boozer Odin.
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#Both Odin and Demoman have an eye removed.  ''OK''.  ''That'' explains the selection of Odin.
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#But wait, both of the removed eyes become giant flame/eye bomb shooting monsters!?!?
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#The inexplicable eye on the shield. '''WHY? '''  An eye on a shield is not an Odin thing. That shape of that eye is not a Norse or Medieval style. That eye looks like no eye in Heraldry; ''but'', it looks like MONOCULUS.
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So, I hope you can consider that, at the face of it, at least the placement of the Odin reference at Demoman’s house was deliberate.  OK, comparing their notorious drinking habits, weak.   But, were the publishers thinking of Odin's Eye and MONOCULUS at that time?  Not absolutely certain, but the eye on the shield is at least an interesting coincidence.  
  
::My team and I think that this can be considered as vandalism, so we are requesting your taking part in this conflict. We are aware that the Spanish version of the Wiki must seem of little importance in comparison with the great engine of the original version, but since our goal is the same -to spread quality information-, we find ourselves in the need of asking for some help from the Wiki Administration.
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Thank you for your consideration. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 00:08, 18 April 2014 (PDT)
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:You are reading too far into things.--'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 13:32, 18 April 2014 (PDT)
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::I should have thought "Reading into things" is part of the point of subtle references.  Let's take a simpler point. Help me understand, how is it interpreted that the Odin reference of page any less noteworthy than the Meet the Spy references of page 1 or 2 or the gunboat pose of page 3?  Was my first error that I didn't realize that most readers would have recognized Odin on their own but not Meet the Spy? [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 15:50, 18 April 2014 (PDT)
  
::I am looking forward to reading from you.
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== Undo ==
  
::Yours faithfully, Tido."
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Hmm why? That's a visible attribute now and appears in the game and steam inventory. — The preceding assigned comment was added by '''[[User:Tark|Tark]]''' '''{'''[[User talk:Tark|Finish Him!]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/Tark|Contribs]]'''}''' 12:19, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
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:Yeah I know, I checked.--'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 12:50, 12 July 2015 (PDT)
  
::The main article where he is annoying us is the [[Currently unreleased content/es]]. If you look at it, you will see Ryo making undo to the chances that we was making. He dont like my translation, or the Mr. Game or Tido's are. He only want his own translation. And he likes to translates making spanish version of english words (Crafting is not "Fabricación", it's "Craftear". Trade is "Tradear", and a lot of more things). He he strongly criticized us saying "The other guy used Google to translate this" or "Bad translating" even "Please, this user is making all bad, actions should be taken". He is a teen "fixing" errors from an user that is making a degree on English language. And he claims to me that he wants the Wiki Cap.
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== Context of quote on Strange page ==
  
::Sorry for the really long text, but I'm really bad at this. Thanks for everything![[User:Sr Domi|Sr Domi]] 15:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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Why did you remove the context I added on [[Strange]]? There's nothing wrong with it and it aids the reader's understanding of the Scout's question. [[User:Hail Fellow Well Met|Hail Fellow Well Met]] ([[User talk:Hail Fellow Well Met|talk]]) 16:28, 17 September 2015 (PDT)
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:Because the quote works fine without the flavor text, it doesn't need to have the context spelled out. --'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 23:00, 17 September 2015 (PDT)
  
:::I've left a note for [[User talk:Ryo|Ryo]] asking him to stop with the edit wars. Hopefully that will fix the problem, and if not we'll deal with it further. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. --[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] {{mod}} 21:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Emergency wiki cap nomination meeting 1.0 ==
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A user hit 1 year in nomination queue due to lack of staff votes. We held an emergency meeting in IRC on Tuesday, May 17, and the result was [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Wiki_Cap/Nominations#Emergency meeting 1.0|this]]. Piemanmoo, please provide some feedback! [[User:Darkid|'''<span style="color: #db9c1f">Darkid</span>''']] « [[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color: #75735F">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color: #BA0000">Contribs</span>]] » 22:13, 17 May 2016 (PDT)
  
== Disruptions ==
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== Message from Lagg: ==
Ok, but he translate it wrong, and I will summarize in English.. --[[User:Ryo|Ryo]] 21:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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Due to how long reviews are taking for Jew, ClockworkSpirit, and myself, we wants you to PM your review for him to be used as a proxy to move the voting process along. Contact him for details. --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|50px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 19:55, 29 August 2016 (PDT)
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:okay, I'll contact him on steam--'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 15:13, 30 August 2016 (PDT)

Latest revision as of 22:13, 30 August 2016

Victory of '68

I did that bad?  :(

Apologizing Mikado282 (talk) 19:26, 2 April 2014 (PDT)

Accepting of apology. --Piemanmoo 19:29, 2 April 2014 (PDT)

Odin Reference in War!

In what way terrible? Mikado282 (talk) 21:11, 17 April 2014 (PDT) It was researched, referenced, and factual?

Do you disagree with the Odin reference? Mikado282 (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2014 (PDT)

Patiently permit me to restart (without the indenture). I hope that you will reconsider my Odin trivia, at least in the core premise, or at least help me revise it to be acceptable.

I believe I can reasonably expect that you can recognize that the statue in WAR! is in reference to Odin. Perhaps the main Odin reference isn’t the problem. But let me back up a bit.

When I first saw the MONOCULUS, it immediately reminded me of the Odin’s Eye monster from The Mighty Thor series. I admit, the coincidence of one-eyed god and a one-eyed mercenary slipped past me at that time. I have read WAR! comic a few times, I’m embarrassed to say that I missed the that the statue is Odin for so long. And how fitting is it to place a god of war in a comic titled War!? But on page 14, they shove it in your face, eye-to-eye, as it were!

But then, why even place the shield with the statue? Ravens and spear? Yes. Ravens and spear is how you tell the reader that the statue is supposed to be Odin. But did Odin have a famous shield? I am not sure that he did. But even if he did, why put a MONOCULUS-like eye on the shield, when a symbol for the Eye of Odin (cross over a circle) resembles the TF2 trademark?

OK,

  1. A God of War statue in a comic titled WAR! Fitting, yes, but why? Wouldn’t any old statue do for the beheading demo? Why not a famous statue? Michelangelo’s David? Or Rodan’s Thinker? No. Who the statue is is important here.
  2. Not Mars, not Ares, with their heads full of eyeballs, but the one-eyed boozer Odin.
  3. Both Odin and Demoman have an eye removed. OK. That explains the selection of Odin.
  4. But wait, both of the removed eyes become giant flame/eye bomb shooting monsters!?!?
  5. The inexplicable eye on the shield. WHY? An eye on a shield is not an Odin thing. That shape of that eye is not a Norse or Medieval style. That eye looks like no eye in Heraldry; but, it looks like MONOCULUS.

So, I hope you can consider that, at the face of it, at least the placement of the Odin reference at Demoman’s house was deliberate. OK, comparing their notorious drinking habits, weak. But, were the publishers thinking of Odin's Eye and MONOCULUS at that time? Not absolutely certain, but the eye on the shield is at least an interesting coincidence.

Thank you for your consideration. Mikado282 (talk) 00:08, 18 April 2014 (PDT)

You are reading too far into things.--Piemanmoo 13:32, 18 April 2014 (PDT)
I should have thought "Reading into things" is part of the point of subtle references. Let's take a simpler point. Help me understand, how is it interpreted that the Odin reference of page any less noteworthy than the Meet the Spy references of page 1 or 2 or the gunboat pose of page 3? Was my first error that I didn't realize that most readers would have recognized Odin on their own but not Meet the Spy? Mikado282 (talk) 15:50, 18 April 2014 (PDT)

Undo

Hmm why? That's a visible attribute now and appears in the game and steam inventory. — The preceding assigned comment was added by Tark {Finish Him!Contribs} 12:19, 12 July 2015 (PDT)

Yeah I know, I checked.--Piemanmoo 12:50, 12 July 2015 (PDT)

Context of quote on Strange page

Why did you remove the context I added on Strange? There's nothing wrong with it and it aids the reader's understanding of the Scout's question. Hail Fellow Well Met (talk) 16:28, 17 September 2015 (PDT)

Because the quote works fine without the flavor text, it doesn't need to have the context spelled out. --Piemanmoo 23:00, 17 September 2015 (PDT)

Emergency wiki cap nomination meeting 1.0

A user hit 1 year in nomination queue due to lack of staff votes. We held an emergency meeting in IRC on Tuesday, May 17, and the result was this. Piemanmoo, please provide some feedback! Darkid « TalkContribs » 22:13, 17 May 2016 (PDT)

Message from Lagg:

Due to how long reviews are taking for Jew, ClockworkSpirit, and myself, we wants you to PM your review for him to be used as a proxy to move the voting process along. Contact him for details. --User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png Dr. Scaphandre 19:55, 29 August 2016 (PDT)

okay, I'll contact him on steam--Piemanmoo 15:13, 30 August 2016 (PDT)