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== Pages of Congeriae - the 4th spell == | == Pages of Congeriae - the 4th spell == | ||
− | I just found a fourth type of page for the fancy spellbook | + | I just found a fourth type of page for the fancy spellbook. Its called "Pages of Congeriae" which translates to either accumulation or chaos. Wondering if this is a rare page? |
[[User:Elsuperbeasto7711|Elsuperbeasto7711]] ([[User talk:Elsuperbeasto7711|talk]]) 00:24, 4 November 2013 (PST) | [[User:Elsuperbeasto7711|Elsuperbeasto7711]] ([[User talk:Elsuperbeasto7711|talk]]) 00:24, 4 November 2013 (PST) | ||
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+ | : I was wondering about this. I don't have any of the ones not already listed myself but there are [http://optf2.com/440/attributes#att-2016 at least 5 named]. Do you have the Manntastic-Four achievement? I've been told that after you get it your page drop rate increases. No idea if it's true or not but if so perhaps they're related. -- [[User:Lagg|Lagg]] [[File:Backpack_Stickybomb_Launcher.png|24px|link=User_talk:Lagg]] 00:29, 4 November 2013 (PST) | ||
+ | :: I've just received this page too, on my 51st costume piece (Faun Feet). Perhaps Congeriae is for getting 50 costume pieces, and Veteris for all 100? My spellbook status is 1 Tumidum / 18 Gratanter / 23 Audere / 1 Congeriae. -- [[User:Cass277|Cass277]] | ||
+ | ::: It'd be nice if we could get repeatable experiments from this. This is the first time I've seen it suggested that it's related to the costume items. Do you know anyone else that has that many by any chance? -- [[User:Lagg|Lagg]] [[File:Backpack_Stickybomb_Launcher.png|24px|link=User_talk:Lagg]] 05:05, 4 November 2013 (PST) | ||
+ | :::: I'm afraid I don't -- I've had many duplicate costumes which I've had to use transmorgifiers on, I've likely possessed over 70 pieces but the moment I got 50 unique ones, the next gift gave me a Congeriae page. It could be just a theory but perhaps worth checking out (I'm praying I can get all 100 by the end of this event). -- [[User:Cass277|Cass277]] | ||
+ | ::::: I only have 30 gift drops (33 if you count transmogrifiers), and I got a page of Congeriae on mine: http://tf2b.com/tf2/item/PrinnyMask/2031766240 | ||
+ | ::::: I got a page of Tumidum from the achievement reward page though, so that's looking likely. - [[User:Daakun|Daakun]] ([[User talk:Daakun|talk]]) | ||
+ | :::::: Just got a second page of Congeriae, so throw my conspiracy out the window! It's interesting that this is the first day that people are starting to get Congeriae, though. Must be a reason for it. http://tf2b.com/tf2/item/cass277/2033556496 -- [[User:Cass277|Cass277]] | ||
+ | ::::::: I got my first right before I got my 5th Helltower achievement. I don't think I've got 50 costume pieces either. [[User:Elsuperbeasto7711|Elsuperbeasto7711]] ([[User talk:Elsuperbeasto7711|talk]]) 21:40, 4 November 2013 (PST) | ||
+ | :::::::: I just found a page of Veteris together with my 60th costume part, maybe there is a sequence. — [[User:Robin0van0der0vliet|<span style="color:#0080ff;font-family: | ||
+ | 'TF2 Build';">Robin0van0der0vliet</span>]] ([[User talk:Robin0van0der0vliet|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Robin0van0der0vliet|contributions]]) - 01:32, 10 November 2013 (PST) | ||
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+ | == Which effect affects which spell? == | ||
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+ | Like the spell name to the effect bonus?[[User:Nibelhim|Nibelhim]] ([[User talk:Nibelhim|talk]]) 06:25, 4 November 2013 (PST) | ||
+ | : No bonus really. Its just for the description counter. Some spells get a small sparkle effect but thats because of the Fancy Spellbook (which is hardly noticable) [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 07:06, 4 November 2013 (PST) | ||
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+ | == Veteris == | ||
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+ | So.. I havnt seen this, but a lot of ppl are talking about a 5th spell. | ||
+ | :I can confirm that Veteris is dropping now http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=193730862 -- [[User:Dabombber|Dabombber]] ([[User talk:Dabombber|talk]]) 00:43, 10 November 2013 (PST) | ||
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+ | == Galery == | ||
+ | So, now that i heard this item can be equiped when pages are colected. How about galery images of how does it look like in classes? [[User:Metroid7|Metroid7]] ([[User talk:Metroid7|talk]]) 15:52, 12 November 2013 (PST) | ||
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+ | == Should this be add to the article? == | ||
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+ | In the german article there are some details that arent in the english article | ||
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+ | (I dont know if I should delete them (german articel) or if they should been added to the english article. | ||
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+ | :Wenn man Zaubersprüche spricht, werden glitzernde Partikeleffekte vom Zauberbuch-Magazin zu den normalen Partikeln hinzugefügt. | ||
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+ | :Verschiedene Zauberbuch-Seites ergänzen verschiedene Partikeleffekte zu der zaubernden Hand. Je mehr Seiten hinzugefügt sind, desto :stärker wird der Partikeleffekt. | ||
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+ | "Translated": | ||
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+ | :When casting spells, glittering particle effects are added to the normal particles by the Spellbook Magazine. | ||
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+ | :Various spellbook pages add various particle effects to the casters hand. The more pages added, the stronger the particle effect is. | ||
+ | [[User:Timmy the mini|Timmy the mini]] ([[User talk:Timmy the mini|talk]]) | ||
+ | ::Generally, English articles are the more up-to-date ones. We always fetch information from English articles. I don't know myself, but judging from the English description, this information might be wrong/outdated. I'd remove it. Also, please sign your posts with 4 tildes, this generates a timestamp: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. — shots fired by: [[User:Nikno|Nikno]] <small>'''{'''[[User talk:Nikno|Talk]]''' | '''[[Special:Contributions/Nikno|Contribs]]'''}'''</small> 19:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC): | ||
+ | :::I always forget the four tildes [[User:Timmy the mini|Timmy the mini]] ([[User talk:Timmy the mini|talk]]) 19:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC) | ||
+ | :: But it would be interesting if true, but you would need pictures from cooperating players. That said, I cannot see any difference between 18 and 61 spellbook pages. These are the only two accounts I have access to at the moment, but both accounts have all five types of spells. Maybe the sparkles increase as one of each type of spell is collected. You can compare your amount of sparkles with [[:File:User Mikado282 Spellbook hand sparkles 5 spell types.png|mine]]. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 03:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{Outdent}} Renew: I have yet to see any presentation of evidence of any effect of the number of spellpages added to the Fancy Spellbook. I have looked at videos ranging from 5 to 61 spellbook pages. ''Maybe'' there is some difference between only three spells of the same type, and 5 spell of different types, ''but'', I have seen no evidence. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="70B04A">'''M I K A D O 282'''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="70B04A">''' oOOOOo oo oo '''</font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|talk]]) ([[User:Mikado282/To Do|To Do]]) 03:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
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+ | The screenshot I just posted only has 4 different spellbook pages (I never used the one that grants Tumidum). It looks a lot less 'concentrated' than the one in your screenshot, maybe there might be some truth to it? [[User:Andreng|Andreng]] ([[User talk:Andreng|talk]]) 16:09, 29 October 2018 (UTC) | ||
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+ | : Thank you for the effort. I counted 31 sparkles on [[:File:User Mikado 282 Spellbook hand sparkles 5 spell types.png|mine]] (~60 spells, all five slots fill) and 27 sparkles on [[:File:Fancy Spellbook Loadout.png|yours]] since the animated sparkles clearly fluctuate; so, I wouldn't count that significant. But since the conjecture is out there in Community, both of our images could be put up in the Gallery, with the captions showing the spell and slot counts. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="70B04A">'''M I K A D O 282'''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="70B04A">''' <small>🎃</small>🎃🎃🎃🎃<small>🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃</small> '''</font></span>(NoOneCanHearYouScreamFortress)]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|talk]]) ([[User:Mikado282/To Do|To Do]]) 23:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC) |
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Tumione page rarity
From farming the gift drops on Helltower, it seems that the Tumidum pages are really, really rare or obtainable only from the 4 Helltower acheivements acheivement. Can anyone confirm?
I currently have one Tumione page but close too twenty of the other pages; I have the acheivement. A friend who is doing the same also has a lot of pages but no Tumidum page; she doesn't have the acheivement.
Liiiink (talk) 09:34, 3 November 2013 (PST)
Pages of Congeriae - the 4th spell
I just found a fourth type of page for the fancy spellbook. Its called "Pages of Congeriae" which translates to either accumulation or chaos. Wondering if this is a rare page?
Elsuperbeasto7711 (talk) 00:24, 4 November 2013 (PST)
- I was wondering about this. I don't have any of the ones not already listed myself but there are at least 5 named. Do you have the Manntastic-Four achievement? I've been told that after you get it your page drop rate increases. No idea if it's true or not but if so perhaps they're related. -- Lagg 00:29, 4 November 2013 (PST)
- I've just received this page too, on my 51st costume piece (Faun Feet). Perhaps Congeriae is for getting 50 costume pieces, and Veteris for all 100? My spellbook status is 1 Tumidum / 18 Gratanter / 23 Audere / 1 Congeriae. -- Cass277
- It'd be nice if we could get repeatable experiments from this. This is the first time I've seen it suggested that it's related to the costume items. Do you know anyone else that has that many by any chance? -- Lagg 05:05, 4 November 2013 (PST)
- I'm afraid I don't -- I've had many duplicate costumes which I've had to use transmorgifiers on, I've likely possessed over 70 pieces but the moment I got 50 unique ones, the next gift gave me a Congeriae page. It could be just a theory but perhaps worth checking out (I'm praying I can get all 100 by the end of this event). -- Cass277
- I only have 30 gift drops (33 if you count transmogrifiers), and I got a page of Congeriae on mine: http://tf2b.com/tf2/item/PrinnyMask/2031766240
- I got a page of Tumidum from the achievement reward page though, so that's looking likely. - Daakun (talk)
- Just got a second page of Congeriae, so throw my conspiracy out the window! It's interesting that this is the first day that people are starting to get Congeriae, though. Must be a reason for it. http://tf2b.com/tf2/item/cass277/2033556496 -- Cass277
- I got my first right before I got my 5th Helltower achievement. I don't think I've got 50 costume pieces either. Elsuperbeasto7711 (talk) 21:40, 4 November 2013 (PST)
- I just found a page of Veteris together with my 60th costume part, maybe there is a sequence. — Robin0van0der0vliet (talk | contributions) - 01:32, 10 November 2013 (PST)
- I got my first right before I got my 5th Helltower achievement. I don't think I've got 50 costume pieces either. Elsuperbeasto7711 (talk) 21:40, 4 November 2013 (PST)
- Just got a second page of Congeriae, so throw my conspiracy out the window! It's interesting that this is the first day that people are starting to get Congeriae, though. Must be a reason for it. http://tf2b.com/tf2/item/cass277/2033556496 -- Cass277
- I'm afraid I don't -- I've had many duplicate costumes which I've had to use transmorgifiers on, I've likely possessed over 70 pieces but the moment I got 50 unique ones, the next gift gave me a Congeriae page. It could be just a theory but perhaps worth checking out (I'm praying I can get all 100 by the end of this event). -- Cass277
- It'd be nice if we could get repeatable experiments from this. This is the first time I've seen it suggested that it's related to the costume items. Do you know anyone else that has that many by any chance? -- Lagg 05:05, 4 November 2013 (PST)
- I've just received this page too, on my 51st costume piece (Faun Feet). Perhaps Congeriae is for getting 50 costume pieces, and Veteris for all 100? My spellbook status is 1 Tumidum / 18 Gratanter / 23 Audere / 1 Congeriae. -- Cass277
Which effect affects which spell?
Like the spell name to the effect bonus?Nibelhim (talk) 06:25, 4 November 2013 (PST)
- No bonus really. Its just for the description counter. Some spells get a small sparkle effect but thats because of the Fancy Spellbook (which is hardly noticable) Ashes (talk) 07:06, 4 November 2013 (PST)
Veteris
So.. I havnt seen this, but a lot of ppl are talking about a 5th spell.
- I can confirm that Veteris is dropping now http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=193730862 -- Dabombber (talk) 00:43, 10 November 2013 (PST)
Galery
So, now that i heard this item can be equiped when pages are colected. How about galery images of how does it look like in classes? Metroid7 (talk) 15:52, 12 November 2013 (PST)
Should this be add to the article?
In the german article there are some details that arent in the english article
(I dont know if I should delete them (german articel) or if they should been added to the english article.
- Wenn man Zaubersprüche spricht, werden glitzernde Partikeleffekte vom Zauberbuch-Magazin zu den normalen Partikeln hinzugefügt.
- Verschiedene Zauberbuch-Seites ergänzen verschiedene Partikeleffekte zu der zaubernden Hand. Je mehr Seiten hinzugefügt sind, desto :stärker wird der Partikeleffekt.
"Translated":
- When casting spells, glittering particle effects are added to the normal particles by the Spellbook Magazine.
- Various spellbook pages add various particle effects to the casters hand. The more pages added, the stronger the particle effect is.
- Generally, English articles are the more up-to-date ones. We always fetch information from English articles. I don't know myself, but judging from the English description, this information might be wrong/outdated. I'd remove it. Also, please sign your posts with 4 tildes, this generates a timestamp: ~~~~. — shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 19:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC):
- I always forget the four tildes Timmy the mini (talk) 19:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- But it would be interesting if true, but you would need pictures from cooperating players. That said, I cannot see any difference between 18 and 61 spellbook pages. These are the only two accounts I have access to at the moment, but both accounts have all five types of spells. Maybe the sparkles increase as one of each type of spell is collected. You can compare your amount of sparkles with mine. Mikado282 (talk) 03:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Generally, English articles are the more up-to-date ones. We always fetch information from English articles. I don't know myself, but judging from the English description, this information might be wrong/outdated. I'd remove it. Also, please sign your posts with 4 tildes, this generates a timestamp: ~~~~. — shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 19:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC):
Renew: I have yet to see any presentation of evidence of any effect of the number of spellpages added to the Fancy Spellbook. I have looked at videos ranging from 5 to 61 spellbook pages. Maybe there is some difference between only three spells of the same type, and 5 spell of different types, but, I have seen no evidence. M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (To Do) 03:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
The screenshot I just posted only has 4 different spellbook pages (I never used the one that grants Tumidum). It looks a lot less 'concentrated' than the one in your screenshot, maybe there might be some truth to it? Andreng (talk) 16:09, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the effort. I counted 31 sparkles on mine (~60 spells, all five slots fill) and 27 sparkles on yours since the animated sparkles clearly fluctuate; so, I wouldn't count that significant. But since the conjecture is out there in Community, both of our images could be put up in the Gallery, with the captions showing the spell and slot counts. M I K A D O 282 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃 (NoOneCanHearYouScreamFortress) (talk) (To Do) 23:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)