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| − | I posted a Villain's Veil Strangifier Chemistry Kit that I just got today, but Moussekateer took them down as soon as I put them up. I am trying to help this wiki by providing it with information but I can't help if people keep deleting things as soon as I post them! Anyways, I also heard it works for other Miscellaneous items, can someone confirm this? [[User:Smartz118|Smartz118]] ([[User talk:Smartz118|talk]]) 19:13, 27 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : I deleted the files because they were pretty low quality and unnecessary anyway. The backpack image taken from the game files would be better. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:17, 27 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :Can you give me some kind of idea how to do that? I am not that tech-savvy but I want to be useful with information.[[User:Smartz118|Smartz118]] ([[User talk:Smartz118|talk]]) 19:21, 27 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == Tracking == | + | == Existence of Snapped Pupil chemistry sets? == |
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| − | Any word on what the Strangifiers are tracking? [[User:Chendelure|Chendelure]] ([[User talk:Chendelure|talk]]) 20:31, 27 August 2013 (PDT)
| + | Backpack.tf doesn't attest to there being any Collector's Snapped Pupils nor any chemistry sets for them as having ever existed in any public inventories. It seems to exist in the item schema as there is a [https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Collector%27s%20Snapped%20Pupil%20Chemistry%20Set market listing for the kit], but none have ever been sold. Does anyone have proof that the Snapped Pupil chemistry sets ever actually dropped? [[User:19 second respawn times|19 second respawn times]] ([[User talk:19 second respawn times|talk]]) 20:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
| − | : Probably how the dota 2 strange cosmetics. Counts kills while wearing it. Most likely really. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 20:36, 27 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : counts points gained while wearing it, whether gained from kills, healing, capping, etc. --[[User:Kincyr|Kincyr]] ([[User talk:Kincyr|talk]]) 14:22, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == Recipes == | + | :Please keep talk page topics on only one page to avoid having to separate discussions at once. I've notified someone more experienced with this, they might be able to help.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:17, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
| − | For Sumer Shades Strangifier:
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| − | 1 Frontier Justice,
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| − | 1 Family Business,
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| − | 1 Scottish Handshake,
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| − | 1 Strange Silver Mk II Flamethrower,
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| − | 1 Phlog -- [[User:Jmudge|Jmudge]] ([[User talk:Jmudge|talk]]) 05:27, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == Variants ==
| + | :At least 1 exists https://imgur.com/DBt2pdA [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | * All variants are different. [http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Chemistry%20Set Proof]. [[User:Archeops|Archeops]] ([[User talk:Archeops|talk]]) 04:25, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
| + | :Never mind then, I guess the problem is with backpack.tf instead. It's always been a bit weird about letting you see items that don't have prices. [[User:19 second respawn times|19 second respawn times]] ([[User talk:19 second respawn times|talk]]) 01:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | == Input Recipes ==
| + | ::The features for searching chemistry sets are non-existent and you have to search through something like ~50+ pages of premium if you want to find specific ones that aren't listed or have prices. Thankfully this one was on page 3. [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 02:52, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | The page appears to be listing input recipes for various hats, however they are different every time for each individual chemistry set. For instance, an Archimedes one is listed as requiring a Strange Razorback and I know of an Archimedes set that requires a Gold Botkiller Minigun, along with every other ingredient being different. [[User:Ninjadactyl|Ninjadactyl]] ([[User talk:Ninjadactyl|talk]]) 04:40, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | It should also be noted that every single recipe appears to follow a formula, requiring a multiple of a certain weapon, 4-5 individual weapons, and any strange weapon. The thing about the strange weapon request is that it can be literally anything, including Botkillers, Stranges from the Salvaged Crates, and even the Frying Pan, making some chemistry sets a lot easier and less costly to open than others of the same kind.[[User:Ninjadactyl|Ninjadactyl]] ([[User talk:Ninjadactyl|talk]]) 04:40, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : Strange festives can be involved as well. My guess is anything marked with the possibility of being strange in the schema can be included in the recipe. [[User:JarateKing|JarateKing]] ([[User talk:JarateKing|talk]]) 12:32, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | The number of weapons required in the input is extremely varied; I have seen recipes ranging from as low as 4 total unique weapons up to as high as 12, not including the random required strange weapon. Also, whoever put up the inputs for the "Merc's Pride Scarf Strangifier" seems to be a bit outlandish, it's way too expensive as it uses hats instead of weapons for inputs, which seems unlikely.[[User:Smartz118|Smartz118]] ([[User talk:Smartz118|talk]]) 07:22, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :Merc's pride kit is 18 craft hats, mine was one from each class, but it seems that's not always the case.
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| − | :The class specific kits seem to be a few weapons + one random common strange (from a regular crate)
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| − | :The All-Father is a few weapons + one random rare strange (various from salvaged crates or strange festive from winter crates)
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| − | :Anyway, it's a mistake to say the set requires an exact formula, so we should think of another layout [[User:Reisen|Reisen]] ([[User talk:Reisen|talk]]) 14:45, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :: Here is how I see it. Since every Chemistry set has different requirements and none of them are the same, Even for the same hat/misc. Why not change the template to list applicable hats/miscs that have strangifiers instead of listing possible recipes. As recipes are generated and there pretty much infinite amounts of combinations. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 16:22, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :::{{c|Agree}}, if like that, I can change that table to look like another table that I created. Also if you want to know recipe, I'll use <nowiki>{{tooltip}}</nowiki> to show when hover on the name of that items. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 16:44, 28 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | There might be some sort of pattern to how recipes are generated, like maybe it always needs X weapons of Y quality plus Z of G. That kind of thing would be worth including. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 19:33, 29 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :It should also mention that the "Strange" weapon being used is either a rare (Blood, Gold, Diamond) Botkiller, a Festive or a Salvaged Crate variant, at least that is what I have gathered from looking at the market.[[User:Smartz118|Smartz118]] ([[User talk:Smartz118|talk]]) 13:24, 30 August 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :: I wouldn't say that, I think that Chemistry sets which ask for rare/expensives stranges are left to rot in the market while Sets which ask for more common Stranges are quickly bought off the market... hey, who's gonna sacrifice a Strange festive weapon in a Set for a strangifier when you can get an easier variant of the same item's set? [[User:LeChatMG|LeChatMG]] ([[User talk:LeChatMG|talk]]) 13:17, 1 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | ::: Case in point, I got a Chemistry Set on day 2 of the update. I needed 10 Danger Shields, various other weapons, and (the kicker) a Strange Eyelander for an All Father Strangifier. It's just luck of the RNG. [[User:OB2KoMario|OB2KoMario]] ([[User talk:OB2KoMario|talk]]) 07:12, 4 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == do chem sets accept uncraftable stuff? ==
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| − | because i got a chem set that requires craft hats and i know that i can buy uncraftable hats for less,so does it accept them? [[User:Ron30086|Ron30086]] ([[User talk:Ron30086|talk]]) 12:55, 3 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : No idea. Its best to test that since it is a valid question. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 16:50, 3 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == Retired hats + Chem sets? ==
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| − | I have heard rumors of valve putting strangeifier chemistry sets out for the retired hats (Fancy Fedora, etc). Is this in any way true? --‡Blood‡ Buwaro Elexion 16:34, 3 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | : No evidence of it as far as I know. If anyone can prove otherwise, it'd be good to know. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 16:35, 3 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | :: As of schema and other population (trading). Theres only a set few of Chem sets. none are for retired hats. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 16:50, 3 September 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == No longer dropping ==
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| − | According to backpack.tf and Meet the Stats, no new drops have happened since very early September. -[[User:KazooieBanjo|KazooieBanjo]] ([[User talk:KazooieBanjo|talk]]) 07:51, 3 October 2013 (PDT)
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| − | Agreed, the Chemistry Set is no longer dropping as of Sept 7. Source: http://backpack.tf/stats/20001/6/0 [[User:Liquidefeline|Liquidefeline]] ([[User talk:Liquidefeline|talk]]) 10:41, 10 October 2013 (PDT)
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| − | == New Strangifier confirmed: Outback intellectual ==
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| − | [http://steamcommunity.com/id/booms8/inventory/ Check out his backpack], Third page and top right corner at the time of this post. If he moved it, it's the only chem set he has, so it's not too hard to find.
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