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[[File:Pictogram info.png|25px|link=]] Please make use of the '''Show preview''' button. It gives you a preview of the edit you are making, allowing you to perfect your changes before you save the page. [[File:User Zabidenu sig.png|link=User:Zabidenu]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Zabidenu|contribs]] ▪ [[User talk:Zabidenu|talk]])</small> 06:34, 8 February 2014 (PST) | [[File:Pictogram info.png|25px|link=]] Please make use of the '''Show preview''' button. It gives you a preview of the edit you are making, allowing you to perfect your changes before you save the page. [[File:User Zabidenu sig.png|link=User:Zabidenu]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Zabidenu|contribs]] ▪ [[User talk:Zabidenu|talk]])</small> 06:34, 8 February 2014 (PST) | ||
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+ | == Про переводы == | ||
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+ | Другие администраторы говорят, что я всё нормально делаю. Объясни что в моих работах не так? | ||
+ | [[User:Nutella785|Nutella785]] ([[User talk:Nutella785|talk]]) 06:07, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
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+ | * Я написал все ниже на английском. | ||
+ | [[User:Shinobu|Shinobu]] ([[User talk:Shinobu|talk]]) 10:17, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
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+ | == A question == | ||
+ | What exactly is wrong with Nutella785's translations? I don't have connections to an online Russian person right now, so I had to go with a quick and dirty Google Translate, and (please correct me if I'm wrong); apparently a lot of text isn't translated and they would be worthy of a rewrite. The first one clearly doesn't apply as everything seems to be translated, and the second one I can't confirm as I myself don't have knowledge of Russian. Can you explain what's going on? [[File:User Zabidenu sig.png|link=User:Zabidenu]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Zabidenu|contribs]] ▪ [[User talk:Zabidenu|talk]])</small> 06:36, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
+ | :For example | ||
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+ | :> Steam Workshop link is not translated, it must be .../ru|Мастерская Steam and other | ||
+ | :> Lexical mistakes: straight translation, lack of periphrases | ||
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+ | :Generally their translation is good but it could be quite better. | ||
+ | :I suggest this user check other pages for examples as I did. | ||
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+ | :[[User:Shinobu|Shinobu]] ([[User talk:Shinobu|talk]]) 09:27, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
+ | ::''(To start off, a little note to keep discussions on one talk page. Thanks)'' Ah, I see now. I notified him in the IRC about the links not being translated and he understood it eventually, so that's one problem solved. Grammatical issues are another thing entirely and that I can't do anything about. However, in the future please try to explain the problem properly, as clearly your rewrite notices and such didn't get the point across well enough to Nutella >: [[File:User Zabidenu sig.png|link=User:Zabidenu]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Zabidenu|contribs]] ▪ [[User talk:Zabidenu|talk]])</small> 09:36, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
+ | :::Don't you know any remarkable russian traslators here? Because I see you can't really understand the problem. English has grammatical problems usually. But russian language is way more difficult. So as I can see Nutella's translations are fine in grammatical rules but poor enough in lexical. I can purely imagine how does he translate it. Copypaste text, then just straight switch english words with russian fixing by some grammatical rules. BUT that's still not enough. That's all my explanation I guess if I won't give a talk about formulaic articles that just must be copypasted sometimes. | ||
+ | [[User:Shinobu|Shinobu]] ([[User talk:Shinobu|talk]]) 10:08, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
+ | ::::I do understand what you're going for, but this is an issue you'll have to talk out with him directly - I can't have word on this because I have zero knowledge of Russian. [[File:User Zabidenu sig.png|link=User:Zabidenu]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Zabidenu|contribs]] ▪ [[User talk:Zabidenu|talk]])</small> 10:12, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
+ | ::::: Psst.. for some reason he won't answer me :'c I've seen him only communicating with you... [[User:Shinobu|Shinobu]] ([[User talk:Shinobu|talk]]) 10:16, 12 February 2014 (PST) | ||
+ | ::::::Try messaging him on his talk page about the things you explained above - he will most likely answer to you there, and he will surely be alerted of the message. [[File:User Zabidenu sig.png|link=User:Zabidenu]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Zabidenu|contribs]] ▪ [[User talk:Zabidenu|talk]])</small> 10:24, 12 February 2014 (PST) |
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-- Omolong (talk) 08:46, 21 December 2013 (PST)
Item icons
Hey there, just a quick message to say that item icons have to be 512 pixels by 384 pixels. You should also make sure you add the appropriate licensing and categories for them. --Omolong (talk) 08:46, 21 December 2013 (PST)
- Once again, Please make sure the item icons are 512 pixels by 384 pixels, If they are smaller they won't be visible on the tables and such. Also you're still not putting the right licenses or categories on them either. I would highly advise that you do so. Ashes (talk) 08:56, 21 December 2013 (PST)
Show preview
Please make use of the Show preview button. It gives you a preview of the edit you are making, allowing you to perfect your changes before you save the page. (contribs ▪ talk) 06:34, 8 February 2014 (PST)
Про переводы
Другие администраторы говорят, что я всё нормально делаю. Объясни что в моих работах не так? Nutella785 (talk) 06:07, 12 February 2014 (PST)
- Я написал все ниже на английском.
Shinobu (talk) 10:17, 12 February 2014 (PST)
A question
What exactly is wrong with Nutella785's translations? I don't have connections to an online Russian person right now, so I had to go with a quick and dirty Google Translate, and (please correct me if I'm wrong); apparently a lot of text isn't translated and they would be worthy of a rewrite. The first one clearly doesn't apply as everything seems to be translated, and the second one I can't confirm as I myself don't have knowledge of Russian. Can you explain what's going on? (contribs ▪ talk) 06:36, 12 February 2014 (PST)
- For example
- > Steam Workshop link is not translated, it must be .../ru|Мастерская Steam and other
- > Lexical mistakes: straight translation, lack of periphrases
- Generally their translation is good but it could be quite better.
- I suggest this user check other pages for examples as I did.
- Shinobu (talk) 09:27, 12 February 2014 (PST)
- (To start off, a little note to keep discussions on one talk page. Thanks) Ah, I see now. I notified him in the IRC about the links not being translated and he understood it eventually, so that's one problem solved. Grammatical issues are another thing entirely and that I can't do anything about. However, in the future please try to explain the problem properly, as clearly your rewrite notices and such didn't get the point across well enough to Nutella >: (contribs ▪ talk) 09:36, 12 February 2014 (PST)
- Don't you know any remarkable russian traslators here? Because I see you can't really understand the problem. English has grammatical problems usually. But russian language is way more difficult. So as I can see Nutella's translations are fine in grammatical rules but poor enough in lexical. I can purely imagine how does he translate it. Copypaste text, then just straight switch english words with russian fixing by some grammatical rules. BUT that's still not enough. That's all my explanation I guess if I won't give a talk about formulaic articles that just must be copypasted sometimes.
- (To start off, a little note to keep discussions on one talk page. Thanks) Ah, I see now. I notified him in the IRC about the links not being translated and he understood it eventually, so that's one problem solved. Grammatical issues are another thing entirely and that I can't do anything about. However, in the future please try to explain the problem properly, as clearly your rewrite notices and such didn't get the point across well enough to Nutella >: (contribs ▪ talk) 09:36, 12 February 2014 (PST)
Shinobu (talk) 10:08, 12 February 2014 (PST)
- I do understand what you're going for, but this is an issue you'll have to talk out with him directly - I can't have word on this because I have zero knowledge of Russian. (contribs ▪ talk) 10:12, 12 February 2014 (PST)