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| − | Why is it [[Patches (TF2)]]? It should be just [[Patches]] as TF2 is our main focus. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 18:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Possible TFC integration? --[[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#FF6600;text-decoration:underline;font-weight:bold;"><tt><big>Firestorm</big></tt></span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Firestorm Nuke Sig.jpg]] 18:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Yep, page just got made "[[Patches (disambiguation)]]" --[[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#FF6600;text-decoration:underline;font-weight:bold;"><tt><big>Firestorm</big></tt></span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Firestorm Nuke Sig.jpg]] 18:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Yes, I understand that. My point and the agreement was to make the non-bracketed names, like [[Soldier]] the TF2 ones and additional pages [[Soldier (Classic)]] for the TFC integration. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 18:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Yeah. Pilk's idea. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]]{{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 18:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Edit it however you feel works best. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 18:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Already have. We're going to use [[Soldier]] for TF2 things, [[Soldier (Classic)]] for TFC things and [[Soldier (Quake)]] for QTF things and maybe [[Soldier (Forever)]] for Fortress Forever, if we implement that. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]]{{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 18:52, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::: It's (Classic) for both QTF and TFC. They are essentially 98% identical, so a page on each version would be a 98% copy. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 18:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::Obviously the patches'll be different, so we might as well have those differing. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]]{{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 19:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I was wondering what you were up to with the columns template. It looks fantastic, great job. :D -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 04:04, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Daaammnnn, somebody's awesome!
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| − | --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Firestorm Nuke Sig.jpg]] 04:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
| + | == MacOS support retirement == |
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| − | :Hehe ;) [[User:Seb26|Seb26]] 04:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I thought the front page icon was going to be updated with the latest major patch? Why is it still at 119, when it should be Engineer? Is that not how it's gonna be? -- [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 10:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Source titles standardization ==
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| − | Ok, we need a format here. The patch source titles are currently being posted in three different link formats. The easiest thing to do would be to change the recent ones to match the older ones. Any thoughts? -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 01:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == October 21, 2010 Patch ==
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| − | -Trading changes
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| − | -Added some anti-scam advice to the chat window.
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| − | -Increased trading slots to 8 slots per person.
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| − | -Added item rarity colors.
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| − | -Added the item’s original name to the item description.
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| − | -Made most tools tradable.
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| − | -Fixed Ellis’ Cap and the Frying Pan not being tradable
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| − | <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:SirMcMuffin|SirMcMuffin]] ([[User talk:SirMcMuffin|talk]]) • [[Special:Contributions/SirMcMuffin|contribs]]) 07:06, 21 October 2010</small>
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| − | :We usually stick to the PST date for the patch's release, in this case it was the 20th. See the patch article [[October 20, 2010 Patch|here]]. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 07:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | so its bad to post a little earlier than usual?
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| − | == Patch Pages ==
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| − | We still don't have pages for the following updates:
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| − | *Heavy Update
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| − | *Scout Update
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| − | *Classless Update
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| − | *Hallowe'en Special
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| − | *WAR! Update (though somebody's working on that one now)
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| − | *First Community Contribution Update
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| − | *119th Update
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| − | *Second Community Contribution Update
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| − | *The Mac Update
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| − | [[User:Problem|Problem]] 18:19, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Yes [[User:No-oneSpecial|No-oneSpecial]] is working on the [[User:No-oneSpecial/Sandbox|WAR! Update]], I'm helping you both doing those pages and for now those are great. You should talk you two to organize yourselves, and not conflict on choosing updates. I'll still be helping you, keep on the good job. <br>PS: I'll be monitoring the progress from [[User:Tturbo/Translation#Update_Pages_.C2.A0In_Progress|there]] [[File:Killicon_ambassadorhs_unused.png]] [[User:Tturbo|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Tturbo</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Tturbo|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Tturbo|C]])</sub></sub> 19:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::So, we've got the Pyro update done, and now we're doing heavy (Sven is), so I'm jumping to scout tomorrow. [[User:Problem|Problem]] 05:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Community Map Pack Update ==
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| − | Should this be considered a "major update?" It's not on the TF2 page under their major update. [[User:BASEBALLFURIES|BASEBALLFURIES]] 04:19, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Shogun ==
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| − | Despite it's promotional content, it could still be considered an "update" (I mean ,if we can consider the Map Pack a major content pack then Shogun probably should too). <span style="color: #cc6600; font-family: Tf2 Build;"><big>[[User:Smashbrother101|Smash]][[User Talk:Smashbrother101|brother]][[User:Smashbrother101#Bios|1]][[User:Smashbrother101#Gallery|0]][[User:Smashbrother101#Loadout|1]]</big></span> 12:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :I agree, but the blog does not. --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] {{sta}} <sup>([[User_talk:CruelCow|talk]])</sup> 12:20, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::What? /:? <span style="color: #cc6600; font-family: Tf2 Build;"><big>[[User:Smashbrother101|Smash]][[User Talk:Smashbrother101|brother]][[User:Smashbrother101#Bios|1]][[User:Smashbrother101#Gallery|0]][[User:Smashbrother101#Loadout|1]]</big></span> 21:25, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::If the TF2 team consider an update to be 'major content' they will stick it in the list on the blog's main page. If it's not there, it's not an "update" so to speak. The wiki generally follow this.--<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span> 21:31, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::The community map pack isn't considered a major update by the TF2 Blog, and it is listed as a major update on the Patches page [[User:Ohyeahcrucz|Ohyeahcrucz]] 16:42, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Oh I see. Well then, nevermind... <span style="color: #cc6600; font-family: Tf2 Build;"><big>[[User:Smashbrother101|Smash]][[User Talk:Smashbrother101|brother]][[User:Smashbrother101#Bios|1]][[User:Smashbrother101#Gallery|0]][[User:Smashbrother101#Loadout|1]]</big></span> 02:04, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :They always are behind on the major updates list (I think it took them two weeks to finally list the Mac Update) and the Community Map Pack isn't on the TF2 blog update list either. The Shogun pack has it's own promotional page on the blog and the blogpost actually refers to it as though it should be considered a major content pack. Personally, I'd say add the Shogun pack to the major patches list, but if we follow Wiki standards, then the Community Map Pack should be removed as well from that list. [[User:Hefaistus|Hefaistus]] 22:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::"Many major patches, called updates, add new weapons, game modes or maps". The Shogun Pack added weapons, hats, and a tool. I think there is no reason to not add it to the "Major patches". [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:18, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::"Poker Night at the Inventory" also did and is no major update. Let's see first if Valve will add it to the sidebar. --[[User:Picard|Picard]] <sup>[[User talk:Picard|talk]]</sup> 16:24, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Poker Night weapons were only skins, they did'nt changed the game's gameplay. Wait & See... [[User:Jay|Jay]] 16:59, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::::It's been discussed and decided in between Staff and we decided that the consensus was it wasn't a major update. I don't remember if it was because it was a promotion and not a TF2 only patch, but it was decided it's not (because if Shogun became a major Update the Homefront patch should be one too). [[File:Killicon_ambassadorhs_unused.png|50px|link=User:Tturbo]] [[User:Tturbo|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Tturbo</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Tturbo|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Tturbo|C]])</sub></sub> 18:04, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::That's exactly what I said. The Homefront Update --> only one Hat, no gameplay changes. The Shogun Update --> 4 new weapons, and it changed the gameplay. To me, something is wrong in your argument. But if the Staff decided that, it ends debate... [[User:Jay|Jay]] 19:31, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::: An interesting point raised by a friend of mine, the wiki lists the contribution updates as major, yet the blog does not feature these in the side list. So should they be removed from the major content list on the page, or should the scope be widened to include these and subsequently the Shogun pack?--<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span> 19:40, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::: I see what you mean. Why was the Map update included as major, even though it's "not on the sidebar"? [[User:Problem|Problem]] 16:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::: As someone has edited the page regardless to read the Shogun pack as a major update, I think it should be assumed it is a major content update. Perhaps any patch that adds multiple items/fixes and is marketed on the blog (ignoring the side bar) in a manner similar to a major content update should therefore be considered as one?--<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span> 12:08, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == 119th update not 119th? ==
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| − | Why is it, according to this list, that the 119th update is the 116th? (All I did was copy the table into notepad and look at the line numbers)
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| − | Were there three days with 2 updates each? Did Valve count something extra? I'm too lazy to script something to parse the update page.[[User:Strange Quirk|Strange Quirk]] 23:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == May 2, 2011 Mac only patch ==
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| − | OS X users received a 934.6 KB "stealth" update to TF2 today. I was wondering if anybody has a clue as to what was changed. [[User:Flash|Flash]] 23:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :may be 26 April?<br/>
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| − | :Mac OSX - Fixed config loading/saving of steam settings from games<br/>
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| − | :Mac OSX - Fixed overlay stopping games from seeing when keys go ‘up’ after the overlay launches<br/>
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| − | :Mac OSX - Fixed rare occurrence where overlay did not track the mouse position<br/>
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| − | :Mac OSX - Fixed case where overlay could lose the root folder containing layout resources and stop displaying.<br/> --<b>[[User:Nik9990|<font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#008000">Nik9990</font>]]</b> <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#808080">[[User_talk:Nik9990|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nik9990|Cont]]</font> 23:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :: Nope. It was a 934.6 KB patch for TF2 and it was today. I'm not on a Mac so I don't know what changed. {{n}}[[File:User_Ohyeahcrucz_Sig.png|20px|sub]] [[User:Ohyeahcrucz|<span style="text-shadow:blue 0px 0px 1px;font-size:13px;font-family:comic sans MS"><font color="blue">Ohyeahcrucz]]</font></span> <span style="font-size:10px;font-weight:bold;"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Ohyeahcrucz|T]]<nowiki>][</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Ohyeahcrucz|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></span> 23:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :: Ya that was a Steam update, this was specifically a TF2 update. I am on a Mac but I'm not sure I have anyway to tell exactly what changed. --[[User:Flash|Flash]] 23:54, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Japan Charity Bundle isn't a major update? -- '''[[User:ZFn|zFn]]''' <small>([[User talk:ZFn|Talk]])</small> 19:39, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Major Updates ==
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| − | The new tabs, added on the blog during the Uber Update, lists only the [[Hatless Update]] and the [[Replay Update]], as major updates in 2011, so I removed the other 3 we added from the list (Japan Charity, Community Map Pack and Shogun), anyone is opposed ? Personaly I would have considered the Map Pack as an update, but Valve apparently doesn't. Now we have a nice counter to to keep notes of the number of patch ![[User:Tturbo|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#70B04A ">Tturbo</span>]] [[File:Killicon_ambassadorhs_unused.png|50px|link=User:Tturbo]] <sub><sub>([[File:Speech voice.png|22px|link=User talk:Tturbo]] / [[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|22px|link=Special:Contributions/Tturbo]])</sub></sub> 00:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} But of course! Seems fitting to me. {{n}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Image|RED}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Text|Epic|#5885A2}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Text|Eric|#B8383B}} {{User:EpicEric/Sig/Image|BLU}}{{User:EpicEric/Sig/Extra}} 00:41, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == TF 15th anniversary? ==
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| − | I think it should count as a Content Pack, like the other updates considered Content Packs, and making a new page for it. Thoughts? {{n}}[[File:User_Heffebaycay_stslogo.png|link=]] [[User:Cructo|<span style="font-weight:bold;font-family: Segoe UI"><font color="black">Cructo]]</font></span> <span style="font-size:10px;font-weight:bold;font-family: helvetica"><font color="black"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Cructo|T]]<nowiki>][</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Cructo|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></font></span> 16:29, 24 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Disagree|Nah}} --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 16:34, 24 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Disagree}} Very little content related to it was added - http://i.imgur.com/6vKcd.png[[User:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#869 0 0 5px; color:#a8b;"><u>nixshadow</u>]]</span> <span style="text-shadow:#859 0 0 5px; color:#a8b">([[User talk:Nixshadow|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Nixshadow|c]])</span> 16:37, 24 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == 240? ==
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| − | The Team Fortress 2 official page says 239. Is it behind by one update? [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 04:25, 30 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :The Team Fortress 2 official page says 240. Is it behind by one update? [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 22:42, 1 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Actually, the official website lists it as "The Manniversary Update". Short for "One Year Manniversary Update" I am guessing. [[User:Rolandius|Rolandius]] 22:26, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | * [[November 2, 2011 Patch|November 2]]
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| − | * [[October 28, 2011 Patch|October 28]]
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| − | * '''[[October 27, 2011 Patch|October 27]]''' <!-- The Very Scary Halloween Special -->
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| − | * [[October 25, 2011 Patch|October 25]]
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| − | * [[October 20, 2011 Patch|October 20]]
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| − | * [[October 19, 2011 Patch|October 19]]
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| − | * [[October 18, 2011 Patch|October 18]]
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| − | * [[October 17, 2011 Patch|October 17]]
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| − | * [[October 14, 2011 Patch|October 14]]
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| − | * '''[[October 13, 2011 Patch|October 13]]''' <!-- Manniversary Update & Sale -->
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| − | * [[September 20, 2011 Patch|September 20]]
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| − | * [[September 16, 2011 Patch|September 16]]
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| − | * [[September 15, 2011 Patch|September 15]]
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| − | * [[September 6, 2011 Patch|September 6]]
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| − | * [[September 2, 2011 Patch|September 2]]
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| − | * [[August 30, 2011 Patch|August 30]]
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| − | * [[August 24, 2011 Patch|August 24]]
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| − | * [[August 23, 2011 Patch|August 23]]
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| − | * '''[[August 18, 2011 Patch|August 18]]''' <!-- Manno-Technology Bundle -->
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| − | * [[August 15, 2011 Patch|August 15]]
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| − | * [[August 9, 2011 Patch|August 9]]
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| − | * [[August 3, 2011 Patch|August 3]]
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| − | * [[August 2, 2011 Patch|August 2]]
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| − | * [[July 29, 2011 Patch|July 29]]
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| − | * [[July 28, 2011 Patch|July 28]]
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| − | * [[July 27, 2011 Patch|July 27]]
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| − | * [[July 26, 2011 Patch|July 26]]
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| − | * [[July 22, 2011 Patch|July 22]]
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| − | * '''[[July 20, 2011 Patch|July 20]]''' <!-- Dr. Grordbort's Victory Pack -->
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| − | * [[July 18, 2011 Patch|July 18]]
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| − | * [[July 8, 2011 Patch|July 8]]
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| − | * [[July 7, 2011 Patch|July 7]]
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| − | * [[July 5, 2011 Patch|July 5]]
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| − | * '''[[July 1, 2011 Patch|July 1]]''' <!-- Summer Camp Sale -->
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| − | * [[June 28, 2011 Patch|June 28]]
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| − | * [[June 27, 2011 Patch|June 27]]
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| − | * '''[[June 23, 2011 Patch|June 23]]''' <!-- Uber Update -->
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| − | * [[June 17, 2011 Patch|June 17]]
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| − | * [[June 15, 2011 Patch|June 15]]
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| − | * [[June 14, 2011 Patch|June 14]]
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| − | * [[June 10, 2011 Patch|June 10]]
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| − | * [[June 8, 2011 Patch|June 8]]
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| − | * [[June 3, 2011 Patch|June 3]]
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| − | * [[May 31, 2011 Patch|May 31]]
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| − | * [[May 25, 2011 Patch|May 25]]
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| − | * [[May 19, 2011 Patch|May 19]]
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| − | * [[May 18, 2011 Patch|May 18]]
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| − | * [[May 13, 2011 Patch|May 13]]
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| − | * [[May 12, 2011 Patch|May 12]]
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| − | * [[May 10, 2011 Patch|May 10]]
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| − | * [[May 9, 2011 Patch|May 9]]
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| − | * [[May 6, 2011 Patch|May 6]]
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| − | * '''[[May 5, 2011 Patch|May 5]]''' <!-- Replay Update -->
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| − | * [[April 28, 2011 Patch|April 28]]
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| − | * [[April 20, 2011 Patch|April 20]]
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| − | * [[April 18, 2011 Patch|April 18]]
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| − | * [[April 15, 2011 Patch|April 15]]
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| − | * '''[[April 14, 2011 Patch|April 14]]''' <!-- Hatless Update -->
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| − | * [[April 7, 2011 Patch|April 7]]
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| − | * [[April 5, 2011 Patch|April 5]]
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| − | * [[March 23, 2011 Patch|March 23]] <!-- Japan Charity Bundle -->
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| − | * [[March 21, 2011 Patch|March 21]]
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| − | * [[March 15, 2011 Patch|March 15]]
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| − | * [[March 11, 2011 Patch|March 11]]
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| − | * [[March 10, 2011 Patch|March 10]] <!-- Shogun Pack -->
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| − | * [[March 4, 2011 Patch|March 4]]
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| − | * [[March 1, 2011 Patch|March 1]]
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| − | * [[February 28, 2011 Patch|February 28]]
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| − | * [[February 24, 2011 Patch|February 24]] <!-- Community Map Pack Update -->
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| − | * [[February 22, 2011 Patch|February 22]]
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| − | * [[February 14, 2011 Patch|February 14]]
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| − | * [[February 7, 2011 Patch|February 7]]
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| − | * [[February 3, 2011 Patch|February 3]]
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| − | * [[January 27, 2011 Patch|January 27]]
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| − | * [[January 24, 2011 Patch|January 24]]
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| − | * [[January 19, 2011 Patch|January 19]]
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| − | * [[January 10, 2011 Patch|January 10]]
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| − | * [[January 7, 2011 Patch|January 7]]
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| − | * [[January 3, 2011 Patch|January 3]]
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| − | * [[December 23, 2010 Patch|December 23]]
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| − | * [[December 22, 2010 Patch|December 22]]
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| − | * [[December 21, 2010 Patch|December 21]]
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| − | * '''[[December 17, 2010 Patch|December 17]]''' <!-- Australian Christmas Update -->
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| − | * [[December 13, 2010 Patch|December 13]]
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| − | * [[December 10, 2010 Patch|December 10]]
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| − | * [[December 9, 2010 Patch|December 9]]
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| − | * [[December 7, 2010 Patch|December 7]]
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| − | * [[December 2, 2010 Patch|December 2]]
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| − | * [[November 22, 2010 Patch|November 22]]
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| − | * [[November 19, 2010 Patch|November 19]]
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| − | * [[November 10, 2010 Patch|November 10]]
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| − | * [[November 3, 2010 Patch|November 3]]
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| − | * [[November 1, 2010 Patch|November 1]]
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| − | * [[October 29, 2010 Patch|October 29]]
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| − | * [[October 28, 2010 Patch|October 28]]
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| − | * '''[[October 27, 2010 Patch|October 27]]''' <!-- Scream Fortress Update -->
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| − | * [[October 20, 2010 Patch|October 20]]
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| − | * [[October 19, 2010 Patch|October 19]]
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| − | * '''[[July 8, 2010 Patch|July 8]]''' <!-- Engineer update -->
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| − | * '''[[March 18, 2010 Patch|March 18]]''' <!-- First Community Contribution Update -->
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| − | * [[December 22, 2009 Patch|December 22]]
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| − | * [[December 18, 2009 Patch|December 18]]
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| − | * '''[[December 17, 2009 Patch|December 17]]''' <!-- WAR! Update -->
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| − | * [[December 10, 2009 Patch|December 10]]
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| − | * [[December 7, 2009 Patch|December 7]]
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| − | * [[November 2, 2009 Patch|November 2]]
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| − | * '''[[October 29, 2009 Patch|October 29]]''' <!-- Hallowe'en Special -->
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| − | * [[October 14, 2009 Patch|October 14]]
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| − | * [[September 15, 2009 Patch|September 15]]
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| − | * [[September 2, 2009 Patch|September 2]]
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| − | * [[August 31, 2009 Patch|August 31]]
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| − | * [[August 21, 2009 Patch|August 21]]
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| − | * [[August 17, 2009 Patch|August 17]]
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| − | * [[August 14, 2009 Patch|August 14]]
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| − | * '''[[August 13, 2009 Patch|August 13]]''' <!-- Classless Update -->
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| − | * [[July 14, 2009 Patch|July 14]]
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| − | * [[June 25, 2009 Patch|June 25]]
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| − | * [[May 29, 2009 Patch|May 29]]
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| − | * [[May 26, 2009 Patch|May 26]]
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| − | * [[May 22, 2009 Patch|May 22]]
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| − | * '''[[May 21, 2009 Patch|May 21]]''' <!-- Sniper v. Spy -->
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| − | * [[May 1, 2009 Patch|May 1]]
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| − | * [[April 20, 2009 Patch|April 20]]
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| − | * [[March 23, 2009 Patch|March 23]]
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| − | * [[March 18, 2009 Patch|March 18]]
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| − | * [[March 13, 2009 Patch|March 13]]
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| − | * [[March 6, 2009 Patch|March 6]]
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| − | * [[March 5, 2009 Patch|March 5]]
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| − | * [[February 25, 2009 Patch|February 25]]
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| − | * '''[[February 24, 2009 Patch|February 24]]''' <!-- Scout -->
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| − | * [[February 18, 2009 Patch|February 18]]
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| − | * [[February 17, 2009 Patch|February 17]]
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| − | * [[February 2, 2009 Patch|February 2]]
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| − | * [[December 15, 2008 Patch|December 15]]
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| − | * [[December 11, 2008 Patch|December 11]]
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| − | * [[October 22, 2008 Patch|October 22]]
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| − | * [[October 21, 2008 Patch|October 21]]
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| − | * [[August 26, 2008 Patch|August 26]]
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| − | * [[August 21, 2008 Patch|August 21]]
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| − | * [[August 20, 2008 Patch|August 20]]
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| − | * '''[[August 19, 2008 Patch|August 19]]''' <!-- Heavy -->
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| − | * [[August 4, 2008 Patch|August 4]]
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| − | * [[July 29, 2008 Patch|July 29]]
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| − | * '''[[June 19, 2008 Patch|June 19]]''' <!-- Pyro -->
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| − | * [[May 2, 2008 Patch|May 2]]
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| − | * [[April 30, 2008 Patch|April 30]]
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| − | * '''[[April 29, 2008 Patch|April 29]]''' <!-- Gold Rush -->
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| − | * [[April 2, 2008 Patch|April 2]]
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| − | Obviously I'd like to hear if the way I designed this is fine, or if the entire idea is silly anyway. - [[User:Selbi|Selbi]] 19:18, 4 November 2011 (PDT)
| + | This change was also done to other Source 1 games:<br> |
| − | :{{c|Support|Yep.avi}} It's certainly better that the current list - much neater, easier to read. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 05:52, 5 November 2011 (PDT) | + | [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944663/ Half-Life 2], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23928955/ Left 4 Dead 1], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944952/ Portal 2], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944927/ Left 4 Dead 2], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944895/ Half-Life 2: Deathmatch], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944871/ Half-Life Deathmatch: Source], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944835/ Counter-Strike: Source], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944792/ Day of Defeat: Source], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944698/ Portal 1], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944685/ Half-Life 2: Lost Coast], [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944681/ Half-Life 2: Episode Two], and [https://steamdb.info/changelist/23944672/ Half-Life 2: Episode One].<br> |
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| − | :{{c|Disagree}} The new version is a lot more to scroll, looks messier and doesn't work well on lower resolutions. The columns table list before is a lot better because it scales well and all the dates are neater (see [http://i.imgur.com/ZOvEF.png] at 960px width, the minimum; and then the new tables [http://i.imgur.com/IKJCP.png]). Also links shouldn't be closed away in a [show]/[hide] box that defaults to hidden unless it is directly obstructing content below it, or if the content is too big. The old list of patches on my browser res (1280x1000) fits into about one and a half scroll distances, whereas on the new design if I show only the 2011 table it takes up the same length, but only shows me 2011 patches. The older design uses the same length and shows more. There is not a lot of content right after the patch list, it doesn't make sense to lock it away in a collapsible box just for the sake of neatness. [[user:seb26|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #0070FF;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #8BBEFF;">'''seb26'''</small>]] 15:30, 5 November 2011 (PDT)
| + | The system requirements section of the TF2 Steam Store page also does not list MacOS anymore.<br> |
| | + | I think we should edit the article to reflect on this changes, but I'm not sure if we should wait for Valve to make an official announcement of it first.<br> |
| | + | As far as I know MacOS support for Valve-made games is out-of-scope for the company. See the following links for more information:<br> |
| | + | * https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/5ED2-ED8E-81F4-0C18#macos<br> |
| | + | * https://web.archive.org/web/20231018232105/https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/73EF-08A3-0935-6369#mac<br> |
| | + | * https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/5E0D-522A-4E62-B6EF<br> |
| | + | * https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Team_Fortress_2#API (same info from the SteamDB.info link above)<br> |
| | + | * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEetpGXDmjw |
| | + | <br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 17:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | == Patch number == | + | :TF2 can still be played on a macOS before Catalina, but I think for the future onwards it's probably best to just mention that MacOS is officially deprecated (as I've edited it on [[Team Fortress 2]]). Feel free to add a mention it.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | I think it needs updating. or maybe removing it completely, because frankly, no one is counting, and I may be wrong but I think the counter on the official site was removed. [[User:Mpnov|Mpnov]] 14:11, 17 January 2012 (PST)
| + | ::Done. Thanks.<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 18:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | == Odd Patches ==
| + | :::Well, well, well...<br>https://steamdb.info/changelist/23976276/ (https://steamdb.info/app/440/history/).<br>I would say we should wait a week or two before possibly reverting the changes, but I believe Valve is <i>not</i> going to support macOS moving forward.<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 04:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
| − | Fish, cheese, hidden descriptions, not being mentioned on tf2.com or teamfortress.com.... Any theories? [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 03:45, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :Meet the Pyro etc. But speculation usually goes to SPUF. -[[User:Asplode|Asplode]] 03:47, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
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| − | ::My mistake. But yeah, it is interesting.... [[User:Taser9001|Taser9001]] 13:17, 21 June 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Undocumented Changes? == | + | ::::They are likely not, but there is still the legacy support for pre-Catalina OS IIRC, though it doesn't appear on the Store page's specs section anymore.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:03, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | Just a quick question. How do you guys know about undocumented changes, if they were never posted on the blog? Do you look in the game's code, or something?--[[User:Uknownada|Uknownada]] 06:35, 4 October 2012 (PDT)
| + | :::::It seems that the macOS build is not functional currently: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/5625<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 15:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | == Robotic Boogaloo == | + | ::::::It has been broken for a while on newer systems as far as I know, but this would qualify more as a bug than as unofficially not having support. In that same thread it mentions that Steam won't support pre-Catalina MacOS anymore, which means officially they're still supporting it, so I think we should mention it although a bug entry on [[Team Fortress 2]], and then use ref tags to note that MacOS has been broken since the 64-bit patch in other places.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:05, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
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| − | I was thinking that since the robotic boogaloo mainly had cosmetic content, should it be considered a content pack and not a major update? {{User:ClockworkSpirit2343/TalkSignature}} | + | :::::::I would say we should wait a week or two before editing the article with new information. Maybe with the Summer Update Valve will officially drop support for the 32-bit version of the game, [https://www.itechtics.com/eol/macos/ as the MacOS 10.14 seems to be EOL.]<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 16:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC) |
| − | :If you check out the official websites update history, the Robotic Boogaloo is noted as a Major update, so I think it's fine as is :) [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 20:29, 13 March 2014 (PDT)
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