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| − | Doesn't it mostly duplicate [[Weapons]]? I'd like the idea of a glossary page that would keep the lead section you wrote and link to [[Weapons]], the Environmental death article and the [[Unused Kill icons]] article, but I think it's best if we leave off the large list though. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#EA6B1C;">[talk]</span>]] 08:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
| + | == Missing Icons == |
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| − | :There's actually no place where all of the kill icons are categorized and described on the wiki. As you said, a lot of the information is spread out throughout, but not really organized in one place. This includes the deflected icons, backstabs, etc. Stuff that's not on [[Weapons]]. Plus this gives a nice list where one can see exactly which weapons are currently missing unique icons. Perhaps instead of "kill icon", the glossary could be moved to "List of kill icons" ? --[[User:Ten19|Ten19]] 08:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
| + | From what I'm seeing, some kill icons are missing. Those are: |
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| − | :This page does not need to exist. We need to tighten up the number of pages with duplicate information. Kill icons don't need to be "categorized and described" either. I would also suggest that [[Unused Kill icons]] does not need to exist either. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 15:12, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
| + | 1) The Piranhas from Cachoeira (This is also mising form the Environmental death page); Since the Sharks from Sharkbay got theirs added, the piranhas should too. |
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| − | ::I disagree, this page does need to exist. It's useful to have a reference list of all the kill icons in one place, it's easy enough to maintain as more are introduced. What if a new player wasn't sure what a kill icon meant? Where would he go on the wiki to check a list of them all to refer to? Also, we do not directly define what a kill icon is anywhere else, it's an important part of the game that shouldn't be overlooked. --[[User:Ten19|Ten19]] 03:15, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
| + | 2) The Zombie Infection kill icons added in the Scream Fortress XVI. Now, the zombies use custom kill icons for their melee attacks and some of their abilities. |
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| − | == Unused Spinal Tap icon ==
| + | There is also the new Saxton Hale kill icons that the Smissmas 2024 patch notes say that they added, but from playing it appears that Hale now uses the default "skull and bones" kill icon. They might be fixing it next patch, so if they do, those new ones should be added as well. |
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| − | I'm 99% sure it was never used in-game, contrary to what the article states. Anyone got a source? – [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub>
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| − | :It was never used in-game. And the article says that actually (albeit poorly worded). Basically it says that it used the ubersaw icon before the update, then used the ubersaw icon after the update. -- [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] [[File:User_Psychopath_avatar.png|16px|link=User_talk:Psychopath]] 02:27, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Really? It gives me the impression that the icon was used and then changed back for no reason. – [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 02:35, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::The impression is made due to the poor wording, but analyzing the wording suggests that it has always used the ubersaw icon (which it has). -- [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] [[File:User_Psychopath_avatar.png|16px|link=User_talk:Psychopath]] 02:37, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Nope, it really was used but for only one day. Don't believe? I have a provement :P here "http ://imageshack.us/g/27/2012012000002.jpg/" I captured it for friends to prove the fact of taunt killing) [[User:Sar-Shazarr|Sar-Shazarr]] 08:30, 5 February 2012 (PST)
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| − | :::::Some servers use modded kill icons. This one ''really'' hasn't been used. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 08:54, 5 February 2012 (PST)
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| − | :::::: I've been playing on that server for a long time, I have it's ip. Never played on servers with user icons. My first successful performed "Spinal Tap" was made on it, when I realized ,that it doesn't have special icon, it was like: "wtf, how can I prove the taunt killing". And suddenly on the same damn server...[[User:Sar-Shazarr|Sar-Shazarr]] 00:01, 6 February 2012 (PST)
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| − | == A few arrow reflects missing ==
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| − | It looks like the page is currently lacking three icons: [[:Image:Killicon deflect flaming arrow.png]], [[:Image:Killicon deflect flaming arrowhs.png]], and the (unused?) version of [[:Image:Killicon deflect arrowhs.png]]. Since I can't test this myself, I think someone who knows about whether they work should (a) upload the (unused?) version of "reflected arrow headshot" (which exists as an older version of deflect_arrowhs.png) and (b) put all three in the Pyro section or Unused section. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 17:38, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Excellent catch. The two flaming arrow deflects have been added, as has the currently-unused arrow headshot deflect. --[[User:Ten19|Ten19]] 18:59, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::Are those flaming-arrow-deflect icons actually used, or are they just in the files? —[[User:KarasuGamma|烏Γ]] ''<sup>([[User talk:KarasuGamma|kaw at me]])</sup>, 19:00, 8 January 2011 (UTC)''
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| − | ::: Hm, I could have sworn I've seen the flaming deflect icons in-game before. In a quick test with bots, a flaming deflect results in the normal huntsman icon. Going to get some live players to double check this. --[[User:Ten19|Ten19]] 19:34, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Yep, you're right. The deflected flaming arrow icons aren't being used for some reason. Article adjusted accordingly. --[[User:Ten19|Ten19]] 20:37, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Still using the Huntsman icons, as of this writing. --[[User:Ten19|Ten19]] 05:08, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Sandman ==
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| − | I just wanted to point out that the Sandman has a unique kill icon now. That should probably be updated, as it shows the Bat on the page now. I'd do it myself, but I don't have access to the image. [[User:Clayfrd|Clayfrd]] 23:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :The new version was uploaded ([[:File:Killicon sandman.png|here]]) but the old version was stuck in the cache. After CTRl + F5ing the page it seems to work fine for me now. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#C01F25;">[talk]</span>]] 23:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Ah, I see it now. [[User:Clayfrd|Clayfrd]] 01:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == missing icon ==
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| − | I noticed the former kill icon for the frying pan, back scratcher and a few other items is gone. Is it supposed to be like that? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Thespy|Thespy]]''' ([[User talk:Thespy|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Thespy|contribs]]) 2011-01-30T23:59:15</small>
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| − | :Not sure what you're referring to. Do you mean the skull icon they used to have? If not, can you elaborate? --[[User:Ten19|Ten19]] 08:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Multi-class weapons ==
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| − | Currently, things like the Shotgun appear in both the "mutiple classes" section and in the sections of the individual classes. This seems redundant to me. Should they be removed from one of the two locations? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 22:58, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Thought this deserves another consideration because the shotgun is listed but the saxxy (albeit it is an all class item) is not. Another question is should the spy's multiple knives also list backstabs since they are seen by the spy and victim? I see backstabs only for the default knive. [[User:BASEBALLFURIES|BASEBALLFURIES]] 12:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Sync with 2/23/2011 update ==
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| − | The undocumented changes say Several UIs were updated, including the scoreboard, '''Kill Icons''', and the server browser. Might as well ad the new kill icons, eh? [[User:Mentlegen|Mr. Wii]] 00:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Spinal Tap unused icon now used ==
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| − | Seriously, go check it yourself. Someone edit everything pertaining to the tauntkill, I'm not sure how. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Lilgreenman|Lilgreenman]]''' ([[User talk:Lilgreenman|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Lilgreenman|contribs]]) 2011-03-19T15:44:04</small>
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| − | :Just tested, it is still not being used. Are you sure it wasn't a server mod? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 20:03, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::Tested it too, still unused. -- [[User:OluapPlayer|<font color="red">'''OluapPlayer'''</font>]] <sub>([[User_talk:OluapPlayer|t]])</sub> {{adm}} [[File:User OluapPlayer Sig.png|Howdy, pardner!]] 20:21, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Unused Enviromental Fire Kill ==
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| − | I'm not sure why it is categorized as an unused kill icon because I have seen the icon used [http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=bB61f7GHTGD5H2Vy9p3Dh4h4l5k2TGxc in-game]. [[User:Nihilus0|<span style="color:#FFD700 ;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Nihilus0</span>]][[File:Backpack_Lugermorph.png|25px|link=User_talk:Nihilus0]]<small>([[Special:Contributions/Nihilus0|contribs]])</small> 05:34, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | : It's unused in vanilla. As the article states, it's currently only used in custom maps and mods. <span style="color:#577;text-shadow:#222 1px 0;white-space:nowrap">— [[File:Gear_Gib_5.png|13px|link=User talk:NVis]] [[User:NVis|nVis]] </span> 05:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Advanced Weaponiser kill icons ==
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| − | can we add some custom kill icon from some mods like the Advanced Weaponiser update mod? [[User:Wildcardsniper|снайпер]] 17:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Nope <b>[[User:DrAkcel|<font FACE="Arial" color="#41627E">DrAkcel</font>]]</b> <sup>([[User_talk:DrAkcel|<font FACE="Arial" color="#25587E">T</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/DrAkcel|<font FACE="Arial" color="#25587E">C</font>]])</sup> 16:55, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::why not?[[User:Wildcardsniper|снайпер]] 17:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Nope, this page only summarize the official kill icons. If you want to add the Advanced Weaponizer kill icons, go add them in the [[Advanced weaponizer]] page. [[File:Killicon_ambassadorhs_unused.png|50px|link=User:Tturbo]] [[User:Tturbo|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Tturbo</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Tturbo|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Tturbo|C]])</sub></sub> 17:48, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Huntsman Kill Icons ==
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| − | I believe it is notable enough for trivia that the Huntsman currently has the most kill icons. [[User:40-Twone will be on your Lest|40-Twone will be on your Lest]] 13:09, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : It is not notable. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 13:11, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | How so? I read over the trivia guidelines in a nutshell, and, asking myself those questions... it's a fact. I've played 400 hours on TF2 and never noticed it. Once again, I didn't know it. [[User:40-Twone will be on your Lest|40-Twone will be on your Lest]] 13:39, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :It is x of y trivia, something that we do not allow on the Wiki. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 13:52, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Oh. Sorry, first discussion post on this wiki for me. Pardon my stupidity. [[User:40-Twone will be on your Lest|40-Twone will be on your Lest]] 14:01, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Template? ==
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| − | I saw GianAwesome use template in this page. But it doesn't 100% complete. Should we revert and wait for it complete? [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 00:43, 16 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Conscientious Objector ==
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| − | Why Conscientious Objector is related to 'all class' group if it is not equippable by Engy and Spy? [[User:Plummaster|Plummaster]] 05:10, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : I'll edit soon [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 07:55, 19 October 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == Frying pan info is wrong. ==
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| − | Still says that it is only usable by the Demo/Solly. Could someone fix it? [[User:Death bestow|Death bestow]] 15:42, 29 May 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :{{c|Done}} '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 15:59, 29 May 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Some facts ==
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| − | I had some testing with bots and it showed some results still not added here:
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| − | * Deflected Cow Mangler's afterburn kill shows usual Cow Mangler kill icon (instead of skull with crossbones)
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| − | * Deflected Scottish Resistance sticky kill also shows usual kill icon instead of deflected sticky, though it's VERY hard to perform in-game as deflected SR sticky still needs to be pointed at to detonate, but... for science
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| − | Couldn't someone add it to list? I know it's the least that can be added... but still it's not listed in-game kill icon situation. [[User:Sar-Shazarr|Sar-Shazarr]] 12:24, 26 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :Found how, added by myself [[User:Sar-Shazarr|Sar-Shazarr]] 12:37, 26 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Have a look ==
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| − | http://steamcommunity.com/id/fearmytaunt4000/screenshot/595853876526607652/?tab=public - on 20th of January I saw this, further taunt kills with ubersaw gave no results - the kill icon was the same, so have fun thinking of how the **** have I done that. What conditions are needed to display this one?
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| − | <br>BTW, since that time I could never repeated though I tried hard). It's just interesting game fact no one gives a s*** about, but I'm interested. [[User:Sar-Shazarr|Sar-Shazarr]] 11:53, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :It's mod server, normal server still use Ubersaw not unused taunt kill icon (Tested on 3 servers, one of them is Valve Server). [[File:Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) - ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:03, 28 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | <br> I was trying to repeat it on the same server even in the same day. Succeded, but no special kill icon. What special conditions needed for game to recognize Ubersaw taunt kill as "taunt_medic", not as "übersaw"? [[User:Sar-Shazarr|Sar-Shazarr]] 00:26, 30 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | :Like Hinaomi said, the Ubersaw taunt (Spinal Tap) has no special kill icon on Valve or unmodded servers. There exists a kill icon for it in the files, but it is not currently implemented. You probably were on a server that had a plugin (such as [https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1430144-%3Eun this]) that allows the use of the kill icon. [[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 01:52, 30 August 2012 (PDT)
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| − | == Water Balloon Kill Icon (Unused) ==
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| − | In the dneg_images_v3.vtf (or d_images_v3.vtf [I don't know what is the difference between the d and the dneg]) there is a icon of a water balloon exploding and one head shotting a player. I remember that I've seen once a workshop which featured a similar item (but I think it was a cosmetic for soldier). Perhaps this would work as the Lumbricus Lid, that uses the Holy Hand Grenade, and uses the Kamikaze taunt (the water balloon exploding), and by killing an enemy, would show the other kill icon.
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| − | I don't know what patch added this, I saw this in The Cutting Room Floor tf2 page, and checked in my game files if it was true.
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| − | [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 18:40, 17 January 2014 (PST)
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| − | == Level 1 Sentry Gun (Unused) ==
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| − | This is something I have been thinking about, the "Level 1 Sentry Gun" kill icon with the laser, the was put in during the Engineer Update, what if that had been had the icon they would use if someone used the wrangler but scrapped it instead of needing to make one of the mini, level 1, 2, &3 and just went with making one for the wrangler.
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| − | [[User:Princess Cherry|Princess Cherry]] ([[User talk:Princess Cherry|talk]]) 17:24, 2 May 2014 (PDT)
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