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==User Boxes==
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[[Category:User Mikado282's Sandboxes]]
  
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I have done a major clean out of my old (early) sandbox. I wanted to discuss the user boxes (below) that I had been fiddling with here for a while. Perhaps no one has noticed them, but in case some have, my concern is that some may see them as offensive, which means they probably are, so probably should be deleted, but before delete them I want to address any concern. First, if they express any sentiments, they are not any sentiments I have, other than a sense of humor. Second, if you think I was being critical or complaining, please consider that I wasn’t, I just wanted to make Class-based-editing puns.
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== Wikicap voting ==
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[[File:User Mikado282 Nikno abstains, courteously.png|thumb|250px|right|[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-M8aQqC4CM Nikno abstains, courteously.] ]]
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{{nutshell|
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The current Wikicap voting system:
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* Among their other duties, Staff vote on awarding [[Wikicap]] to nominated outstanding editors.  
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* Voting Staff is limited to all listed [[Help:Group rights|Administrators and Moderators]]. Thus, Staff represents a limited pool of individual votes; which may be cast as YES, NO, or Abstain.
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* Votes are be privately registered with reasons for the vote.
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* If the nominee receives 5 YES votes, then they receive a Wikicap.
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** Dropping the Wikicap is done by the Staff.
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* The vote remains open until either the cap is awarded or the vote is closed with no Wikicap awarded.
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* Votes may be changed before the Wikicap is awarded or the voting closed.
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* The vote is closed without awarding a Wikicap when ...
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** An Administrator removes the nominee for clear lack of qualifications.
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** The nominee receives 5 NO votes.
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** The total YES, NO, and Abstain votes exhaust the possibility of reaching 5 votes for or against (given the remaining pool of votes) and an Administrator declares deadlock.
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*** The Administrator may declare an extention in time for any change in votes to resolve the dead lock.
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I want this to be very clear: ''I have '''no''' problems whatsoever with any of the experienced active users'' (or ''any'' users for that matter).  Studying the actions of [[User:Ashes]], [[User:Moussekateer]], [[User:Omolong]], [[User:TidB]], [[User:Hinaomi]], etc, is invaluable to learning this wiki's style.  Editors such as these have been responsive and just to all; and been helpful to me personally.
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=== Draft:Wikicap vote tally ===
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==== [[User:Yossef|Yossef]]'s vote ====
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{|class="wikitable grid sortable" cellpadding=2 style="text-align:center; font-size:90%"
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!class="header" style="background-color:#F3A957;" | Voter
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!class="header" style="background-color:#F3A957;" | Yes
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!class="header" style="background-color:#F3A957;" | No
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!class="header" style="background-color:#F3A957;" | Abstain
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!class="header" style="background-color:#F3A957;" | Recused
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| [[User:Ashe|Ashe]]
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| {{Pro}}
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| [[User:Ashes|Ashes]]
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| {{Pro}}
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| [[User:Darkid|Darkid]]
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| {{Pro}}
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| [[User:Dereko|Dereko]]
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| {{Pro}}
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| [[User:Fuffeh|Fuffeh]]
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| {{Pro}}
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| [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]]
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| {{Con}}
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| [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]]
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| [ {{Pro}} ]
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| {{Neutral}}
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| [[User:Tark|Tark]]
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| {{Neutral}}
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| [[User:Wookipan|Wookipan]]
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| {{Neutral}}
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| [[User:Yossef|Yossef]]
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| {{Neutral}}
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I have posted the other Class-based editing user boxes I thought non-confrontational.  Now, the one’s below, I thought were funny wordplays; ''but'' I’m afraid they are toxic and I should be rid of them, ''but'' I wanted anyone who thought I was complaining through these, that I most certainly was not. 
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== Formula ==
  
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:After chatting with a couple of editors, I considered that these could be moderated somewhat with some simple word changes.
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[two aspects : in game time vs wiki time ]
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{{Clear}} 
 
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{{Userbox
 
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  |id      = [[File:Soldier every single one.png|44px]]
 
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  |info    = Then, this user herded up two of every bad edit, and then he beat the '''''crap''''' out of every single one.
 
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}}{{Clear}}
 
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This one might be OK to keep?  Actually, Ashes and Omolong pretty much beat the rest of us to this, but that just gives the rest of us the chance to step up and be the offerers of helpful advice.
 
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: Change "''bad edit''" to "''typo''"?<br />
 
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::{{Userbox
 
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  |id      = [[File:Soldier every single one.png|44px]]
 
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  |info    = This user found two of every kid of typo ... herded them on to an editor ... and then he beat the '''''crap''''' out of every single one.
 
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}}{{Clear}}
 
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:: Better, this way I can use this one now.
 
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{{Userbox
 
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  |id      = [[File:Soldier more than you do.PNG|44px]]
 
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  |info    = This user says Sun Tzu "knows a ''little'' more about <s>editing</s><u>grammar</u> than ''you'' do, pal, because '''''he invented it'''''."
 
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}}{{Clear}}
 
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I just love the musical lilt of Soldier's lines in this part of the original video.
 
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Maybe a change of ''editing'' to ''grammar'' (as above)? Much less personal? Folk rarely get reverted for bad grammar. Who really cares these days about having their grammar corrected?<br />
 
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{{Userbox
 
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  |info-c  = #CCCCCC
 
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  |info-s  = 7
 
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  |id      = [[File:Firewatch.png|44px]]
 
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  |info    = This user says "''Wave goodbye ta yer <s>edit</s><u>subject-verb disagreement</u>, wanker!''"
 
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}}{{Clear}}The idea here was to edit in an undo button under the crosshairs.  but even as is, it's toxic.
 
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  |id      = [[File:Firewatch.png|44px]]
 
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  |info    = This user says "''Wave goodbye ta yer [[w:Saylor.org%27s_English_Composition/Subject/Verb_Disagreement|subject-verb disagreement]], wanker!''"
 
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}}{{Clear}}
 
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: A bit less personal now?<br />
 
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==This Game Wiki Editor's Prayer==
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[ time appears local, not global ]
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[ same "local" time basis for all holidays, just different date formula ]
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[ dates can be verified but adjusting the host computer's time. ]
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When the Full Moon restriction was introduced with the 2011 Very Scary Halloween Special, the formula was set such that the Full Moon event occurred every 29.5 days starting Midday, October 12, 2011. The periods lasted for a full day before and after the time calculated, so the very first Full Moon event was one day either side of 12am (Midnight) on November 10, 2011. However, the actual [[w:Lunar month#Synodic month|synodic month]] is close to 44 minutes and 3 seconds longer than the 29.5 day approximation. The effect of this was that after about four years, the TF2 Full Moon schedule was about one and a half days ahead of the actual lunar phase -- by June 2, 2015, the game (and the [[Template:Fmp|Fmp calculations at that time]]) would close Full Moon events hours before the real Moon was actually full. However, by September 2015 and in subsequent months, the in-game Full Moon event was observed to be more centered on the real full moon time, indicating that the previous game schedule had been [[Template talk:Fmp|changed]]. The formulation computing the Full Moon dates for this page was changed in November 2015
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... much after this is Mikado282's error ... to be fixed ... per above notes ...
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to more closely track the observed Full Moon events, largely by changing the period to be closer to the actual average Lunar period. However, the present formula, still being a fixed constant period, does not account for the various oscillations seen in the Lunar period, so the present formula runs several hours ahead or behind the actual event for several months at a time.
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== Talk:Full Moon Formula ==
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[ Verification of localized start time by Tark, Yossef, and Mikado282 ]
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{|
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== This Game Fan Wiki Editor's Prayer ==
 
As I sit to type, I utter this self-admonishing prayer:  
 
As I sit to type, I utter this self-admonishing prayer:  
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:Very, very few edits to any game wiki will feed, clothe, or comfort anyone or anything except egos. I pray to minimize my self-absorption and sloth and that I not compound my sins with jealousy and/or anger over game wiki edits.
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:Very, very few edits to any game fan wiki like this one will [[w:The Sheep and the Goats|feed, clothe, or comfort anyone]] or anything except frail egos. I pray to minimize my self-absorption and sloth and that I not ''compound'' my sins with jealousy and/or anger over game wiki edits.
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Loving games is easy, even thieves, murders, and haters love games.  How much more glorious is it to love something that does not give such immediate, easy pleasure?
 
Loving games is easy, even thieves, murders, and haters love games.  How much more glorious is it to love something that does not give such immediate, easy pleasure?
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== Inventory of MvM Memoirs ==
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{| class="wikitable grid"
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|-
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! class="header" |Map
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! class="header" |Style
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! class="header" |Comments
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| [[Doppler]]    ||  || Favorite Art Design, High glassed Spawn, Snowy cave rollout, sub pen,
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| [[Dockyard]]    ||  ||
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| [[Downtown]]    ||  ||
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| [[Powerplant]]  || brick factory || Tough, Large pine spits rollout
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| [[Steep]]    ||  || 
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| [[Teien]]      || Japan || Metro, pond rollout
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| [[Waterfront]]  || BLU industrial dockland ||simple short, predictable map
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| [[Metro]]      || Metro || Not spectacular, but most memorable MvM fight
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| [[Underground]] || mine tunnel ||compare with Big Rock
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|}
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== [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion/Archive 27#Spoilers|Spoilers]] ==
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Somewhat tangentially, I quibble with the comment “[[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion/Archive_27#Spoilers|''If you don't read the comics you wouldn't care about the administrator at all.'']]”  I don’t think I got into the comics and videos until my first Halloween event ([[Spectral Halloween Special|Fourth Annual Halloween Special]]). I went the wiki to learn how to fight the bosses, and in that manner learned about the past content.  Similarly, that is how I learned that the Administrator/Announcer had any sort of significance.  Moreover, it was through the wiki that I learned that the game had any storyline at all.  In a nutshell, I found the game, googled for strategy, found the wiki, found the storyline, found the comics.  YMV; but, maybe it happens that way for others, too.  Truly, the wiki is the ''bookshelf'' where I keep my "worn" copies of the comics. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 21:39, 22 April 2014 (PDT)
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== Minigun (Brass Beast) Firing Speed Upgrade Study (draft) ==
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{| class="wikitable grid" style="text-align:center;"
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|- style="height: 20px;"
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|Upgrade        ||0    ||1    ||2    ||3    ||4
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|-
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|stated fire rate||base  ||+10%  ||+10%  ||+10%  ||+10%
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|Cost            ||$0    ||$350  ||$700  ||$1,050||$1,400
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|-
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|time (s)        ||21    ||18    ||18    ||15    ||12
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|bps            ||9.52  ||11.11 ||11.11 ||13.33 ||16.67
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|-
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|dps            ||100%  ||117%  ||117%  ||140%  ||175%
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|-
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|actual fire rate||base  ||+17%  ||+0%  ||+23%  ||+25%
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|}
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Hmmm, for $1,400, you get a bit better than permanent, ''stackable'' minicrits. Worth it?
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== Community topic notability ==
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{{hatnote|Drafting replacement for [[Team Fortress Wiki:Policies#Mod notability]].}}
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{{hatnote|See [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines]]}}
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'''Community topics''' embrace a collection of subjects of content and activities that occur outside of direct Valve's corporate operations and publications of the ''Team Fortress'' series of games and all related media. Obviously, Team fortress wiki will not cover all Community activities. ''Secondary'' (if not ''tertiary'') to the primary task of keeping the wiki current with Valve's publications and updates, editors may cover notable Community topics, but only in compliance with the wiki's [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines|Policy for Community topic notability]].
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<s>Community-led activities and content development is a foundation of ''Team Fortress''; and, ''Team Fortress 2'' was developed to encourage future content development and activities within the community.
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are those subjects Community topics</s>
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== Community topic tags ==
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{{hatnote|Temporary collective list}}
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[[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines]]
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[[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project]]
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[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines]]
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[[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines]]
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[[User:Tark/Template:Community content]]
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{{tlx|Other custom}}
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{{tlx|Custom content}} redirect to Template:Other custom by Dan9er/MCandRBfan
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{{tlx|Custom map}}
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{{tlx|Custom mission}}
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{{tlx|Custom maps unreleased stub}}

Latest revision as of 14:18, 8 October 2023


Wikicap voting

Nikno abstains, courteously.
Nutshell.pngThis page in a nutshell: The current Wikicap voting system:
  • Among their other duties, Staff vote on awarding Wikicap to nominated outstanding editors.
  • Voting Staff is limited to all listed Administrators and Moderators. Thus, Staff represents a limited pool of individual votes; which may be cast as YES, NO, or Abstain.
  • Votes are be privately registered with reasons for the vote.
  • If the nominee receives 5 YES votes, then they receive a Wikicap.
    • Dropping the Wikicap is done by the Staff.
  • The vote remains open until either the cap is awarded or the vote is closed with no Wikicap awarded.
  • Votes may be changed before the Wikicap is awarded or the voting closed.
  • The vote is closed without awarding a Wikicap when ...
    • An Administrator removes the nominee for clear lack of qualifications.
    • The nominee receives 5 NO votes.
    • The total YES, NO, and Abstain votes exhaust the possibility of reaching 5 votes for or against (given the remaining pool of votes) and an Administrator declares deadlock.
      • The Administrator may declare an extention in time for any change in votes to resolve the dead lock.

Draft:Wikicap vote tally

Yossef's vote

Voter Yes No Abstain Recused
Ashe Pictogram plus.png 
Ashes Pictogram plus.png 
Darkid Pictogram plus.png 
Dereko Pictogram plus.png 
Fuffeh Pictogram plus.png 
GrampaSwood Pictogram minus.png 
Mikado282 [ Pictogram plus.png  ] Pictogram info.png 
Tark Pictogram info.png 
Wookipan Pictogram info.png 
Yossef Pictogram info.png 

Formula

[two aspects : in game time vs wiki time ]

[ time appears local, not global ]

[ same "local" time basis for all holidays, just different date formula ]

[ dates can be verified but adjusting the host computer's time. ]

When the Full Moon restriction was introduced with the 2011 Very Scary Halloween Special, the formula was set such that the Full Moon event occurred every 29.5 days starting Midday, October 12, 2011. The periods lasted for a full day before and after the time calculated, so the very first Full Moon event was one day either side of 12am (Midnight) on November 10, 2011. However, the actual synodic month is close to 44 minutes and 3 seconds longer than the 29.5 day approximation. The effect of this was that after about four years, the TF2 Full Moon schedule was about one and a half days ahead of the actual lunar phase -- by June 2, 2015, the game (and the Fmp calculations at that time) would close Full Moon events hours before the real Moon was actually full. However, by September 2015 and in subsequent months, the in-game Full Moon event was observed to be more centered on the real full moon time, indicating that the previous game schedule had been changed. The formulation computing the Full Moon dates for this page was changed in November 2015

... much after this is Mikado282's error ... to be fixed ... per above notes ...

to more closely track the observed Full Moon events, largely by changing the period to be closer to the actual average Lunar period. However, the present formula, still being a fixed constant period, does not account for the various oscillations seen in the Lunar period, so the present formula runs several hours ahead or behind the actual event for several months at a time.

Talk:Full Moon Formula

[ Verification of localized start time by Tark, Yossef, and Mikado282 ]

Jan...Feb 1
March 15, 2022 at 04:19
April 13, 2022 at 17:02
May 13, 2022 at 05:46
June 11, 2022 at 18:29
July 11, 2022 at 07:12

This Game Fan Wiki Editor's Prayer

As I sit to type, I utter this self-admonishing prayer:

Very, very few edits to any game fan wiki like this one will feed, clothe, or comfort anyone or anything except frail egos. I pray to minimize my self-absorption and sloth and that I not compound my sins with jealousy and/or anger over game wiki edits.

Loving games is easy, even thieves, murders, and haters love games. How much more glorious is it to love something that does not give such immediate, easy pleasure?

Inventory of MvM Memoirs

Map Style Comments
Doppler Favorite Art Design, High glassed Spawn, Snowy cave rollout, sub pen,
Dockyard
Downtown
Powerplant brick factory Tough, Large pine spits rollout
Steep
Teien Japan Metro, pond rollout
Waterfront BLU industrial dockland simple short, predictable map
Metro Metro Not spectacular, but most memorable MvM fight
Underground mine tunnel compare with Big Rock

Spoilers

Somewhat tangentially, I quibble with the comment “If you don't read the comics you wouldn't care about the administrator at all.” I don’t think I got into the comics and videos until my first Halloween event (Fourth Annual Halloween Special). I went the wiki to learn how to fight the bosses, and in that manner learned about the past content. Similarly, that is how I learned that the Administrator/Announcer had any sort of significance. Moreover, it was through the wiki that I learned that the game had any storyline at all. In a nutshell, I found the game, googled for strategy, found the wiki, found the storyline, found the comics. YMV; but, maybe it happens that way for others, too. Truly, the wiki is the bookshelf where I keep my "worn" copies of the comics. Mikado282 (talk) 21:39, 22 April 2014 (PDT)

Minigun (Brass Beast) Firing Speed Upgrade Study (draft)

Upgrade 0 1 2 3 4
stated fire rate base +10% +10% +10% +10%
Cost $0 $350 $700 $1,050 $1,400
time (s) 21 18 18 15 12
bps 9.52 11.11 11.11 13.33 16.67
dps 100% 117% 117% 140% 175%
actual fire rate base +17% +0% +23% +25%

Hmmm, for $1,400, you get a bit better than permanent, stackable minicrits. Worth it?

Community topic notability

Drafting replacement for Team Fortress Wiki:Policies#Mod notability.
See Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines

Community topics embrace a collection of subjects of content and activities that occur outside of direct Valve's corporate operations and publications of the Team Fortress series of games and all related media. Obviously, Team fortress wiki will not cover all Community activities. Secondary (if not tertiary) to the primary task of keeping the wiki current with Valve's publications and updates, editors may cover notable Community topics, but only in compliance with the wiki's Policy for Community topic notability.

Community-led activities and content development is a foundation of Team Fortress; and, Team Fortress 2 was developed to encourage future content development and activities within the community.

are those subjects Community topics

Community topic tags

Temporary collective list

Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines

Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project

User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines

Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines

User:Tark/Template:Community content

{{Other custom}}

{{Custom content}} redirect to Template:Other custom by Dan9er/MCandRBfan

{{Custom map}}

{{Custom mission}}

{{Custom maps unreleased stub}}

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