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Spy does not have an english accent in the french dub.

He has more of a multilingual way of speaking, this factoïd origniated from the surprising fact that he says "Oh my god" where all the other translations make him say "mon dieu" in fact he also says "my friend" and "gracias" etc. But in the french dub he doesn't have an english accent at all, more like a slightly catalan accent which would coincide with his NECA figure which according to a Marc Alfos interview, is more or less what the dubbing team got as description for the characters.

Le TINTOUIN (talk) 00:09, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

If you can link the interview in the edit summary, feel free to remove/replace it.

| s | GrampaSwood

(talk) (contribs) 00:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

I couldn't find it it's maybe still on youtube but it's an old video only in my memories. However the fact that he doesn't have an english accent in french is a sufficient proof, I can show you on discord recording of what an english accent sounds like in french. It's far from what we have. I'm asking for permission to remove this for the moment and add the fact that he has a light catalan accent later when someone can confirm with me.
Le TINTOUIN (talk) 18:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

(EDIT) I just found two interviews of Serge Thiriet the voice actor of the french dub, but he doesn't seem to talk much about TF2 you can watch them here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoFE794IT8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InPtflC3AcA Le TINTOUIN (talk) 20:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I confirmed with a French Cap holder that confirmed the lack of an English accent so feel free to remove it. Though the Catalan accent doesn't seem obvious, so that doesn't need to be added.

| s | GrampaSwood

(talk) (contribs) 22:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Spy appears to use the "With Helmet" style of the Brainiac Hairpiece when disguising as a engineer with the cosmetic equipped if the engineer is wearing the "Without Helmet" style.

It's a minor bug in the grand scheme of things, but perhaps it should be added to the page, even more so if this happens with other items(although I believe it may only happen with older items if this is the case), due to the possible gameplay ramifications. I currently don't have any proof on hand, but I do recall it happening when I was using the item.

TheFusingCookie (talk) 05:03, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

This bug already appears with another cosmetic on Disguise. If you can find proof of more cosmetics having this happen, that one can then be changed ot a general bug about styles.

| s | GrampaSwood

(talk) (contribs) 12:57, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Interesting, if I had to guess this might be a general bug with hats that remove the default hat of the class that they're on through a style, or at least in the case of older hats. Since Lord Cockswain's Novelty Mutton Chops and Pipe match this, I might test that, along with The Professor's Peculiarity to see the inverse, and possibly a newer hat if I can find one that uses this type of formatting for its styles, although I think that most hats with styles that remove hats add them back in the second style instead of having the hat in the first, possibly to prevent this very bug.

TheFusingCookie (talk) 15:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the default style is, but I suspect it either uses the first style, uses the style that corresponds with the team (e.g. RED uses first style and BLU uses second style, that's how bugs happen with the Box Trot and the Australium Knife), or it just simply ignores bodygroup-hiding styles.

| s | GrampaSwood

(talk) (contribs) 15:15, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

I can only assume it's a classic case of Source weirdness, and somehow the words "Without Helmet" have put a curse upon any item with it that makes the helmet appear on Spy, because the two other items I tested(The Professor's Peculiarity and Lord Cockswain's Novelty Mutton Chops and Pipe)work fine. I probably won't add the bug on the Disguise page, but I will probably add it on the Brainiac Hairpiece's page.

TheFusingCookie (talk) 15:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

It's probably just because disguises use the default bodygroup. If you can confirm it with the Brainiac's Hairpiece, it would be better to change the bug on the Disguise page instead. I can try and do some testing myself later.

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(talk) (contribs) 16:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

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+== Spy does not have an english accent in the french dub. ==
-== Picture? ==
+He has more of a multilingual way of speaking, this factoïd origniated from the surprising fact that he says "Oh my god" where all the other translations make him say "mon dieu" in fact he also says "my friend" and "gracias" etc. But in the french dub he doesn't have an english accent at all, more like a slightly catalan accent which would coincide with his NECA figure which according to a Marc Alfos interview, is more or less what the dubbing team got as description for the characters.
-I noticed the displayed pictures for all classes are for the RED version of each class, except the Spy. Is there any particular reason? [[User:Betenoire|Betenoire]] 14:16, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
+[[User:Le TINTOUIN|Le TINTOUIN]] ([[User talk:Le TINTOUIN|talk]]) 00:09, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
-Probably no particular reason though i think we should try to be consistent with the pictures. I might try to find a red one and put it in. [[User:Pierow|Pierow]] 05:26, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
-: I always thought it was just a little joke. Like, the BLU spy had infiltrated the wiki or something >_< Idk it make me giggle a bit. -- [[User:Babygirl|Babygirl]] [[File:User_Babygirl_avatar.png|20px|link=User_talk:Babygirl]] 17:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
-I was playing tf2 today, and found this. No skins whatsoever. http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/469813240332462660/CE297B8CB6BC46585ED42A557D5A26440E53CD6D/
+:If you can link the interview in the edit summary, feel free to remove/replace it.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
-[[User:Hurricaden|Hurricaden]] ([[User talk:Hurricaden|talk]]) 08:55, 28 June 2014 (PDT)
-:What about it? Also, in the future please put new subjects at the bottom of talk pages. This conversation is from 2011 [[File:User atf412 FoxIcon.png]] [[User:atf412|atf412]] ([[User_Talk:atf412|talk]]) 11:11, 28 June 2014 (PDT)
-== Spelling/Grammar note ==
+::I couldn't find it it's maybe still on youtube but it's an old video only in my memories. However the fact that he doesn't have an english accent in french is a sufficient proof, I can show you on discord recording of what an english accent sounds like in french. It's far from what we have. I'm asking for permission to remove this for the moment and add the fact that he has a light catalan accent later when someone can confirm with me. <br> [[User:Le TINTOUIN|Le TINTOUIN]] ([[User talk:Le TINTOUIN|talk]]) 18:09, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
+::(EDIT) I just found two interviews of Serge Thiriet the voice actor of the french dub, but he doesn't seem to talk much about TF2 you can watch them here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoFE794IT8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InPtflC3AcA [[User:Le TINTOUIN|Le TINTOUIN]] ([[User talk:Le TINTOUIN|talk]]) 20:05, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
-When editing Spy pages, keep in mind that the weapon name is "L'Etranger", not "the L'Etranger". The L and apostrophe are a French equivalent of  "the". So, writing "the L'Etranger" is the same as writing "the the Etranger". Sorry for the nitpick, but being fluent in French, this is an error that often frustrates me. --[[User:Szthesquid|Szthesquid]] 19:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
+:::I confirmed with a French Cap holder that confirmed the lack of an English accent so feel free to remove it. Though the Catalan accent doesn't seem obvious, so that doesn't need to be added.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 22:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
+== Spy appears to use the "With Helmet" style of the Brainiac Hairpiece when disguising as a engineer with the cosmetic equipped if the engineer is wearing the "Without Helmet" style. ==
+It's a minor bug in the grand scheme of things, but perhaps it should be added to the page, even more so if this happens with other items(although I believe it may only happen with older items if this is the case), due to the possible gameplay ramifications. I currently don't have any proof on hand, but I do recall it happening when I was using the item.
-:Can you explain more clearly, I can't really see the difference; is the apostrophe in a different place? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Mattkim824|Mattkim824]]''' ([[User talk:Mattkim824|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Mattkim824|contribs]]) 03:41, 13 October 2011</small>
+[[User:TheFusingCookie|TheFusingCookie]] ([[User talk:TheFusingCookie|talk]]) 05:03, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
-::I think Szthesquid is referring to the "'''the'''" prefix. Please remember to sign your name after possts by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> thanks. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 03:25, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
-== Achievements ==
+:This bug already appears with another cosmetic on [[Disguise]]. If you can find proof of more cosmetics having this happen, that one can then be changed ot a general bug about styles.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:57, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
-i have been noticing alot about the spy pistols they all have the achievement 'A Cut Above' but it's not specific to any pistol the achievement works with any pistol at all and is not specific to a certain pistol
-i have been getting messages from people saying "as long it has to do with the weapon its ok" and other people saying "it must be specific to that weapon to be counted" so what is the correct statement can someone clear that up for me? [[User:Lexicon249|Lexicon249]] 05:16, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
+::Interesting, if I had to guess this might be a general bug with hats that remove the default hat of the class that they're on through a style, or at least in the case of older hats. Since Lord Cockswain's Novelty Mutton Chops and Pipe match this, I might test that, along with The Professor's Peculiarity to see the inverse, and possibly a newer hat if I can find one that uses this type of formatting for its styles, although I think that most hats with styles that remove hats add them back in the second style instead of having the hat in the first, possibly to prevent this very bug.
-== Knife ==
+::[[User:TheFusingCookie|TheFusingCookie]] ([[User talk:TheFusingCookie|talk]]) 15:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
-(Backstab: 450) The Knife deals more than 450 Dmg, it deals 6x of the enemys maximum healthpoints. This could be important, because Deadringer Spys sometimes can take more than 450 damage points. --[[User:Picard|Picard]] 08:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
+:::I'm not sure what the default style is, but I suspect it either uses the first style, uses the style that corresponds with the team (e.g. RED uses first style and BLU uses second style, that's how bugs happen with the [[Box Trot]] and the Australium Knife), or it just simply ignores bodygroup-hiding styles.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 15:15, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
-: You are correct, editted --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 01:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
-::Another thing I noticed :D
-:::''"Ironically, the Spy is voiced by Dennis Bateman, the same VA as the Pyro, his second worst enemy."''
-::Who is the Spys worst enemy? Because the Sniper isnt the worst Enemy of the Spy, but the Spy is the worst enemy of the Sniper. --[[User:Picard|Picard]] 21:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
-::: I guess "Enemy" is referring to the one he hates the most. I don't like the line at all though. --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 21:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
-:''"The Spy appears to have separate voices for BLU and RED as the RED Spy has a lower, raspier voice."'' Does he? Is this referring only to voices of the spies in Valve machinima? I had never noticed. --[[User:A Sassy Dog|A Sassy Dog]] 15:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
-:: Removed until proof is provided -[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 16:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
-:::I did notice that the spy has two distinct intonations, but I don't think they're specific to team color. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 16:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
-::::The red spy does speak in a lower voice. In Meet the Spy you can tell the difference. [[User:Kevschow|Kevschow]] 01:38, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
-:::::Only in his 'Meet The...' video. In gameplay, there is no difference between the two teams. This tidbit is listed on the 'Meet The Spy' page, which I reckon is more appropriate than having it here. [[User:Alphard|Alphard]] 15:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
-== Name? ==
+::::I can only assume it's a classic case of Source weirdness, and somehow the words "Without Helmet" have put a curse upon any item with it that makes the helmet appear on Spy, because the two other items I tested(The Professor's Peculiarity and Lord Cockswain's Novelty Mutton Chops and Pipe)work fine. I probably won't add the bug on the Disguise page, but I will probably add it on the Brainiac Hairpiece's page.
-Is there any source of his name?--[[User:DCybertron|DCybertron]] 01:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
-: Nope --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 01:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
-: His name is Philippe Lefebvre! Just watch OSS 117: Le Caire nid d'espions [[User:DWM91|DWM91]] 18:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
-::I keep stumbeling accross people calling him '''Émile''', no idea where this comes from. Anyone any insight? [[User:Trent Easton|Trent Easton]] 17:16, 29 November 2011 (PST)
-:::Link?[[User:Carez|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Carez</span>]] [[File:Killicon_conscientious_objector.png|40px|link=User:Carez]]  [[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Carez]]  17:18, 29 November 2011 (PST)
-==Meme==
+::::[[User:TheFusingCookie|TheFusingCookie]] ([[User talk:TheFusingCookie|talk]]) 15:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
-Should we mention the Gentlemen meme in trivia? [[User:Kevschow|Kevschow]] 01:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
-: [[Memes]] --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 01:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
-But of course. ~[[User:Weirdduder10|weirdduder10]] 13:58:17, 14 October 2012 (US)
-==Revolvers==
+:::::It's probably just because disguises use the default bodygroup. If you can confirm it with the Brainiac's Hairpiece, it would be better to change the bug on the Disguise page instead. I can try and do some testing myself later.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:11, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
-At point blank Revolver deals 60 damage, Ambassador 51 and L'Etranger 48. Checked 10/15/2010. --[[User:Onotole|Onotole]] 00:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
-:I'm not sure what information you're trying to correct as those values are already listed (albeit as ranges) in the articles for each of those weapons. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 01:32, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
-I was wondering, why were the revolvers listed as secondary weapons? cause in the loadouts, i see them as 1st: Revolver 2nd: Sapper 3rd: Knife PDA: spy watch. I get kind of confused like that. -[[User:weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 13:52:32, 14 October 2012
-== Trivia ==
-Regarding the current second to last trivia ("Before the Spy update..."): it ends with the statement '"As his voice lines are said in a calm collected manner, this gives him a split personality."' This seems rather like a stretch, but I'm new here and don't want to edit something out of existence based solely on my judgement (yet). Can someone else sound off on this or just jump in and delete it? Thanks. [[User:Scurve|Scurve]] 07:05, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
-Also the Spy says "Gracias" in the French voice lines, implying that he has a Spainish accent, not an English one.[[User:Isaac Condon|Isaac Condon]] ([[User talk:Isaac Condon|talk]]) 13:43, 23 April 2014 (PDT)
-== View Model Beta Color Scheme ==
-''The Spy's view model sleeves still have beta color schemes. In addition, the number of stripes on his sleeve do not match the world model.''
-Is the essentially saying the same thing?  Could it be rewritten as "The spy's view model sleeves are from the beta texture and do not match the color and stripe count of the world model" or something? [[User:CptObvious|CptObvious]] 08:10, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
-Don't forget that the ingame hud still displays the original beta Spy's design [[User:Baron Royale|Baron Royale]]
-== New Spy Picture ==
-I noticed that the original picture of the Spy standing with the knife and smoking has been replaced with a Spy "taunting" and pulling up a sigarrette from his Spy-Kit.
-Well, i dont mind a picture change but i expected a RED Spy and not a BLU again (:3).
-[[User:Ravecrib9t4|The Noble Scout]] 12:28, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
-== Health glitch ==
-I think the health from Kunai glitch should be noted in the description box. The glitch speed from GRU and Steak was in Heavy article too before patch. --[[User:SandeProElite|SandeProElite]] 15:29, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
-==Kill Icons==
-It may be repetitive, but each of the Spy melee weapons does have the backstab kill icon associated with it. Shouldn't that icon be represented in each of the boxes as opposed to just that of the Knife? Babygirl 22:51, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
-:Ermmmm in my opinion they all looks same.[[User:Rins|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Rins</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:User_Rins_minioface.png|:O]] ([[User talk:Rins|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Rins|contribs]])</span> 12:49, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
-::They do. I'm just worried that the Spy page might give the impression that only the vanilla knife has a unique backstab icon. -- [[User:Babygirl|Babygirl]] [[File:User_Babygirl_avatar.png|20px|link=User_talk:Babygirl]] 15:20, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
-== Motto ==
-Isn't it technically "..."? [[User:Tendog|Tendog]] 02:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
-:I'm sure it would be more "Gentlemen" (mentlegen?) [[User:Weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 14:04:53, 14 October 2012 (US)
-== Beta Suit ==
-Should I include the beta suit as a bug or as "Unused Content"? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Doktorpsyko|Doktorpsyko]]''' ([[User talk:Doktorpsyko|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Doktorpsyko|contribs]]) </small>
-:Do you mean just to mention it on the wiki? If so, neither. The [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Fire_retardant_suit Fire proof suit] has a page, and if you mean the design change, it isn't notable as either. - http://i.imgur.com/6vKcd.png[[User:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#869 0 0 5px; color:#a8b;"><u>nixshadow</u>]]</span> <span style="text-shadow:#859 0 0 5px; color:#a8b">([[User talk:Nixshadow|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Nixshadow|c]])</span> 23:25, 2 July 2011 (PDT)
-== Top of Page Portrait ==
-Currently it depicts a Blue spy, while all the other class portraits depict the Red team.  May want that corrected.  [[User:Grug|Grug]] 05:14, 9 July 2011 (PDT)
-: Yes, I agree, but a lot of people seem passionate about this being a BLU Spy for some reason [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 05:18, 9 July 2011 (PDT)
-== Relationship with other classes ==
-Is that necessary ? [[User:MrPaulolefou|- WatdaFok.]] 10:55, 17 July 2011 (PDT)
-: Relationship is mean Match-ups. So Relationship is useless [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] 02:05, 18 July 2011 (PDT)
-== Knife (2)==
-Spycicle's 'frozen statue' effect is listed with a red 'negative' marker - should this be the case if the Saxxy effect is so similar and uses the blue 'info' marker? [[User:Dreamdayer|Dreamdayer]] 14:17, 26 June 2012 (PDT)
-:I think I agree with you, this is a cosmetic effect as well. [[User:Carez|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Carez</span>]] [[File:Killicon_conscientious_objector.png|40px|link=User:Carez]]  [[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Carez]]  00:18, 26 June 2012 (PDT)
-== Spy's identity? ==
-Is it possible that the Spy is actually Gray Mann? In Blood Brothers, he says "Gentlemen" (one of the Spy's phrases), wears a suit that resembles Spy's (albeit a different color), and kills Redmond and Blutarch by ''stabbing them in the back.'' [[User:Digifreek|Digifreek]] 09:54, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
-:Well, he actually stabs them in the chest going from his relative position at the end of the comic, but speculation and this kind of discussion belongs on the [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/ Steam Forums] ^^ [[File:User Wingless Winged Signature.png|150px|link=User:Wingless]] 09:55, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
-::If i had to say who would most likely be Gray Mann would be engineer's grandfather, or engineer. Because Engineer's grandfather had a blueprint that had a scout robot, which is confusing because scout was probably not even born at the time, And spy's well known phrase "Gentlemen" doesn't mean who ever says it is the spy. [[User:weirdduder10|Weirdduder10]] 13:02:31, 14 October 2012
-:As the other pages of the wiki and the comics says, Grey Mann is the third child of Zepheniah Mann and is the third of the Mann Brothers. Assuming his relationship with the scout's mother, it is a possibility that he is his father, since the page regarding the scount's mother did not mention anything regarding her marriage. [[User:gigagadget|Gigagadget]] 9:15, 10 January 2013 (PH)
-== Spy/pyro/heavy in Sonic and Sega All stars tranformed ==
-Spy alongside heavy and the pyro will be in the latest Sonic game Sonic and Sega allstars racing transformed as playable dlc drivers only for the pc version.I think we should mention this in the trivia section --[[User:Engineer&#39;s Sentry|Engineer&#39;s Sentry]] 17:09, 16 November 2012 (PST)
-:X of Y trivia. Please read [[Help:Style_guide/Trivia|this]] before add or think to add trivia. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 17:30, 16 November 2012 (PST)
-::It's not really an X of Y trivia at all, and given that class articles mention class appearances in other games (even just cameos), I think their upcoming appearance is a perfectly valid thing to add. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 06:21, 10 January 2013 (PST)
-::: While it's not x of y trivia, it's not quite official yet. Just being in the files of the game isn't enough to really state they're in the game as characters. Let's wait until the PC version comes out or the characters are otherwise officially announced. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 07:01, 10 January 2013 (PST)
-== Three Hand Spy Bug ==
-The last time I played, I noticed that Spy no longer mysteriously sprouts a third hand to reload his revolver if he has the Dead Ringer out.  Would someone confirm if that bug is still active, and if not, when it was patched?
-<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Dotchan|Dotchan]]''' ([[User talk:Dotchan|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Dotchan|contribs]]) 21 September 2013‎</small>
-: Well it wasn't really a notable bug to begin with. Date of patch is gonna be a bit hard to find though. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 20:23, 21 September 2013 (PDT)
-== Spy Height ==
-The Spy is depicted as being 6' in the last panel of Ring of Fired. Is this substantial enough to include in the article? [[User:EthanB009|EthanB009]] ([[User talk:EthanB009|talk]]) 00:16, 10 March 2014 (PDT)
-== Inconsistent class image ==
-For consistency sake I think this image needs to change since it's different from all the other classes. Like [[Soldier|here]] and [[Engineer|here]]. -- [[User:CoreDude98|CoreDude98]] ([[User talk:CoreDude98|talk]]) 15:53, 16 April 2015 (PDT)
-: What do you mean by "it's different"? That's a pretty vague way of describing an issue with it. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 15:57, 16 April 2015 (PDT)

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Spy does not have an english accent in the french dub.

Spy appears to use the "With Helmet" style of the Brainiac Hairpiece when disguising as a engineer with the cosmetic equipped if the engineer is wearing the "Without Helmet" style.

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