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== Sniper's Class Badge ==
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The Sniper's badge is not quite accurate.  The entire background, other than a small team-colored ring, should be yellow. (I could provide a screencap from the SDK if necessary.) [[User:Dotchan|Dotchan]] 21:13, 25 November 2010 (UTC)dotchan
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== Trivia ==
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== Update history feels off ==
An admin once told me that bugs concerning items or character's models shouldn't be listed on the Trivia section, so I was wondering if we should remove the last line of the Sniper's Trivia, which says "The Sniper's world model is only seen with a fingerless glove on his left hand, and a watch on his left arm, where all of his view models have a glove on both hands, and no watch. (Viewmodel_fov must be set higher to see the watch, or lack thereof.)" [[User:Allukard|Allukard]] 07:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:Bugs shouldn't really be listed in the trivia section, you could delete it and create a bugs section and list the bugs there.[[User:Jarhead|Jarhead]] 04:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Jarhead
 
  
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There are some entries in the update section that mentions updates to the Sniper class in general, but not to Sniper himself.<br>
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For example:<br><br>
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"December 22, 2009 Patch" - "Updated the Baseball and Jarate HUD indicators to stay on screen when full."<br>
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"June 18, 2014 Patch" - "The Bushwacka can no longer randomly crit." / "The Hitman's Heatmaker now activates focus by pressing 'reload'."<br><br>
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I don't believe this type of entry should be listed in the update history section. We should either:<br>
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- List all entries related to all changes done to Sniper (weapons changes, cosmetics changes etc.);
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- List only entries related to the Sniper himself, and not entries that are related to the class in general '''(I prefer this option)'''.<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 16:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
  
== Little outfit changes. ==
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: We should also see how similar articles behave about this to see if they are consistent.<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 16:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
 
 
Should it be noted that Sniper is the only class to have actual outfit changes with weapon switches?(Huntsman he'll get arrows added to his quiver, Sydney Sleeper the bullets will be changed to darts)[[User:CloudT|CloudT]] 04:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
Also, (this is a really small outfit change) with Darwin's Danger Shield, he gets some small teeth around his belt that are attached to the sash that keeps the shield on him. Presumably crocodile teeth. [[User:Pierow|Pierow]] 05:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)Pierow
 
:Nah sorry, I don't think that's noteable. [[User:GeminiViRiS|<font color="green" size="2px">GeminiViRiS</font>]] [[Image:User GeminiViRiS Doubleface.jpg|20px]] [[User_talk:GeminiViRiS|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/GeminiViRiS|Contribs]] 05:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Speculation for Sniper's first name==
 
After thinking about it for a bit, I'm pretty sure Sniper's first name is Dick. Why? Well, "Crocodile" Dundee's name is Mick Dundee. Swap the first two letters, and you have Dick Mundee! Ha, fool proof. Not to mention that a lot of sniper players are dicks! {{Citation needed}}
 
Oh yeah, I'm on the ball right now. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 00:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:That...makes absolutely sence! It's an awesome theory, but obviously we can't add it, yet. So...Deeck Mundy, Sniper's name. Next one better be Scout's! [[User:GianAwesome|GianAwesome]] 00:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:: This logic is foolproof. It's basically canon now. Right on. -- [[User:Babygirl|Babygirl]] [[File:User_Babygirl_avatar.png|20px|link=User_talk:Babygirl]] 00:48, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:::In the future, please don't spam up mainspace talks with this kind of thing. -[[User:Shine|<font color="#666666">'''Shine'''</font>]] 00:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 
::::As an Australian myself, I initially jumped to the conclusion that his name forms a hideous pun: Barry. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barramundi Barry Mundy]. Your extremely cheesey reasoning has not dissuaded me from this theory. Just something to consider. [[User:Jish|Jish]] 11:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 
:I've been wondering, the outdated wiki listed his name as '''Richard Mundy''', don't know where this name came from. Maybe anyone has any information about this? [[User:Trent Easton|Trent Easton]] 09:09, 15 November 2011 (PST)
 
::That's just because Dick is a shortened form of Richard. Anyway, let's keep this discussion on the forums shall we? '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 10:29, 15 November 2011 (PST)
 
The Sniper's first name is actually Rick according to one of his headwear named Ritzy RICK'S Hair Fixative. Rick also sounds similar to Mick (From Crocodile Dundee).So scratch Dick and Richard, his name is Rick.
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Jan00333|Jan00333]]''' ([[User talk:Jan00333|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Jan00333|contribs]]) 05:12, 29 September 2013 (PDT)</small>
 
:No, it doesn't mean that with 100% proof. -[[User:Asplode|Asplode]] ([[User talk:Asplode|talk]]) 05:18, 29 September 2013 (PDT)
 
Well wheres your proof then?This is wikipedia you always need proof.
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Jan00333|Jan00333]]''' ([[User talk:Jan00333|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Jan00333|contribs]]) 05:21, 29 September 2013 (PDT)</small>
 
:I was asking where was ''your'' proof. -[[User:Asplode|Asplode]] ([[User talk:Asplode|talk]]) 05:22, 29 September 2013 (PDT)
 
I pointed it out in my first comment :/
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Jan00333|Jan00333]]''' ([[User talk:Jan00333|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Jan00333|contribs]]) 05:23, 29 September 2013 (PDT)</small>
 
:So Scout's name is Bill and Wilson at the same time with your logic. How interesting. -[[User:Asplode|Asplode]] ([[User talk:Asplode|talk]]) 05:24, 29 September 2013 (PDT)
 
What page are you on?I'm talking about the SNIPER not Scout.
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Jan00333|Jan00333]]''' ([[User talk:Jan00333|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Jan00333|contribs]]) 05:25, 29 September 2013 (PDT)</small>
 
:So if you said that, your proof is very POOR. Did you get any confirm by Valve, not from your thinking? Also, sign your comment with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> too, Asplode is lazy to add {{tl|unsigned}} to you everytime he talk with. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 07:59, 29 September 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
== General Cleanup tag? ==
 
 
 
Any specific reason why this article is tagged as needing to be cleaned up? It seems pretty good to me. [[User:Cloventt|Cloventt]] 22:04, 25 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:It doesn't need to be cleaned up. - [[User:NameUser|NameUser]] 22:40, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Which City in Australia? ==
 
 
 
Well, I'll have to assume that the Sniper is from Adelaide, a city in South Australia, after I saw this flyer:
 
 
 
http://teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/english.htm
 
 
 
[[User:Foxontherails|foxontherails]] 19:32, 12 February 2012 (PST)
 
:Should we also assume that the Spy is a duke, and the Prime Minister? '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 11:24, 13 February 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
Ohh, nooo. I see your argument. So I guess he isn't from Adelaide...<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Foxontherails|Foxontherails]]''' ([[User talk:Foxontherails|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Foxontherails|contribs]]) 02:34, 14 February 2012</small>
 
 
 
== About the Snipers speed ==
 
 
 
Isn't he slightly faster when zoomed in with the Sydney Sleeper compared to other sniper rifles? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Dawngaward|Dawngaward]]''' ([[User talk:Dawngaward|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Dawngaward|contribs]]) 11:00, 15 February 2012</small>
 
:Not as far as I know. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 03:32, 15 February 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== There should be a new sniper? ==
 
 
 
Can we get a new sniper that would be able to use for quick-scoping? I know, this may sound stupid, but how about the charge would start from full when you first zoom in, then quick go down to 1% as you keep zoomed in. Maybe also you could decrease the scoping time for more effective quick-scoping? I just like CoD too, so that's why I want something in TF2 where you could quick scope. Maybe this could be something like a rush class for the sniper. [[User:Erak606|Erak606]] 18:27, 13 March 2012 (PDT)
 
:Head to the forums for weapon discussion and ideas - this page is for discussing the article only. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 18:29, 13 March 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Bazaar bargain minor error ==
 
 
 
Right now the description for the bazaar bargain says '+ 10 charge increase per second'. 'Charge rate increases by 10%' seems better in my opinion. Same story for the penalty applied whem missing. It's a minor fix, but I still thought I should post it here rather than fixing it right away. [[User:K-Raider NL|K-Raider NL]] 05:06, 9 April 2012 (PDT)
 
:We reflect the description as it appears in-game; if Valve doesn't change it, neither do we.  <span style="border:2px solid red;border-radius:5px;-moz-border-radius:5px;-o-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px;-khtml-border-radius:5px;padding:3px;background-color:black">[[File:Painted Swagman's Swatter E6E6E6.png|20px|link=User:R4wrz0rz0r]] [[User:R4wrz0rz0r|{{TF2B|r4wrz|color=white|size=18px}}]]<small>[[User talk:r4wrz0rz0r|<span style="color:white">Swagmaster</span>]]</small></span> 05:08, 9 April 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Quote at top ==
 
 
 
Isn't it "I guarantee you won't go angry"? I've noticed this a long time ago, never bothered to comment, but it sounds like 'angry' in the movie ot me, and 'angry' makes sense to me. [[User:EvilJackCarver|EvilJackCarver]] 12:17, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
 
:It's just the Sniper's accent that causes him to not pronounce the 'h' in hungry. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 12:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Possible trivia piece? ==
 
 
 
While messing around in Source Filmmaker, I saw what seems to be a bruise on Sniper's right thumbnail. Is this real, or were my textures screwing up? If it is real, is it interesting enough to put in the trivia? [[User:Sigoshi|Sigoshi]] 21:10, 21 November 2012 (PST)
 
: Care to take a screen shot? I'd like to see as well. (SFM won't open for me D:) [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 21:14, 21 November 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== Trivia/Bug ==
 
One of his achievements Is based off a movie I think its enemy at the gate, also the sniper wears 1 glove in 3rd person but 2 in 1st, this may be a possible bug[[User:Monkeyking240|Monkeyking240]] 15:13, 11 April 2013 (PDT)
 
: Please make a new topic and not under a discussion that ended 2 years ago. Secondly, Those aren't notable for either trivia or bug. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] 15:19, 11 April 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Darwin's Danger Shield special abilities are incorrect ==
 
 
 
It shows the +25 hp but not the bullet damage resistance or the vulnerability to explosive damage that was added in the last patch. I'd update it myself but I can't figure out how to edit the line Class weapons table sniper secondary. The stats show correctly on the Danger Shield's own page. [[User:Spider5799|Spider5799]] ([[User talk:Spider5799|talk]]) 12:58, 24 July 2013 (PDT)
 
: Updated to show the actual update change. Thanks [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 13:55, 24 July 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
== His name revealed ==
 
 
 
It's Mick Mundy, as revealed by the Gaming Heads Sniper statuette.
 
 
 
[http://horobox.co.uk/u/Jojje_1382051231.jpg Evidence 1]
 
[http://horobox.co.uk/u/Jojje_1382022121.jpg Evidence 2]
 
 
 
Suggest addition to article.
 
 
 
--[[User:Jojje|Jojje]] ([[User talk:Jojje|talk]]) 07:18, 17 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:I think there's the similar issue with Medic name and Valve confirmed that it's not official name. I think this one is the same. All we can do is wait for response from Valve. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 08:17, 17 October 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
::yeah that's fair enough --[[User:Jojje|Jojje]] ([[User talk:Jojje|talk]]) 08:23, 17 October 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Trivia-worthy? ==
 
 
 
There's a bit of detail on the sniper's thumb, explained here: http://bit.ly/JGGkNO (original source, saoi for the yaoi) [[User:Redjarman|Redjarman]] ([[User talk:Redjarman|talk]]) 20:03, 7 January 2014 (PST)
 
: Seems more less speculation really. Unless valve says otherwise, It's not notable. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 22:50, 7 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== possible movie reference ==
 
 
 
Okay, so the sniper's name is listed as "Mr. Mundy" and supposedly his full name is "Mick Mundy"
 
I think this is most likely a reference to "Mick Dundee" from "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_Dundee Crocodile Dundee]"
 
 
 
Is the name "Mick Mundy" official? If it is, I think the connection is trivia worthy. --[[User:PyroGothNerd|PyroGothNerd]] ([[User talk:PyroGothNerd|talk]]) 18:49, 19 February 2014 (PST)
 
: The name Mick is not official - [[File:Leaderboard class tank.png|30px|link=Special:Contributions/Cobaltcakes]][[User:Cobaltcakes|<span style="color:#0047AB;font-size:16px;font-family:'Agency FB Bold';text-shadow:#d3d3d3 3px 3px 0px;"><b>COBALT</b></span>]] 18:50, 19 February 2014 (PST)
 
Sorry for the late response. Anyhow, Mundy could still be a reference to Crocodile Dundy...if you guys want to wait and see, though, I totally understand, with all the name confusion that's been going on for most of the characters.
 
Maybe we'll find out his official name in the next TF2 comic, since Ms. Pauling, Spy, and Demoman are going to find him. --[[User:PyroGothNerd|PyroGothNerd]] ([[User talk:PyroGothNerd|talk]]) 05:21, 10 April 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== sniper player model  ==
 
 
 
has anyone noticed that the sniper has a cut on his cheek that happened in the meet the spy clip were the spy and the sniper had a fight and the spy cut him I just thought people haven't seen it that's all [[User:Acemillion|Acemillion]] ([[User talk:Acemillion|talk]]) 02:11, 8 November 2014 (PST)
 
:That's literally the first thing in the trivia section [[User:Redjarman|Redjarman]] ([[User talk:Redjarman|talk]]) 07:19, 8 November 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Sniper response reference ==
 
 
 
The response "This is going to be a real piece o' piss, you bloody fruit shop owners" is a reference to a shooting in Australia where a sniper targeted people who ran fruit shops. I don't know much about it, but this should probably be in trivia. I will not add it in because once again, I don't know much about it and it would be too vague.
 
 
 
[[User:Octorock888|Octorock888]] ([[User talk:Octorock888|talk]]) 03:37, 14 January 2015 (PST)
 
 
 
== Missing 2D Image of player ==
 
 
 
Basically title. I would put a '''Missing Image Tag''' here but I couldn't remember how to so yep. If someone could find the image or at least be able to put the tag up that would be great. -- [[User:CoreDude98|CoreDude98]] ([[User talk:CoreDude98|talk]]) 15:41, 16 April 2015 (PDT)
 
: The image existed, but the infobox didn't point to it. I've readded the image now. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 15:56, 16 April 2015 (PDT)
 
:: Thanks man :D I didn't want to try and change anything just in case I destroyed something. -- [[User:CoreDude98|CoreDude98]] ([[User talk:CoreDude98|talk]]) 00:22, 18 April 2015 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Sniper's Birthplace (Clarification) ==
 
I found a lot of users debating the birthplace of The Sniper in the edit history. Before you edit, I just want to say this: The Sniper was born in '''New Zealand'''. He was '''raised''' in Australia. [[Blood_in_the_Water|Here is proof (Pages 75-89)]]. Got it? Thank you. [[User:Dan9er|Dan9er]] ([[User talk:Dan9er|talk]]) 13:24, 25 July 2015 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Weapon descriptions ==
 
 
 
"Friendly Pyros and Soldiers with the Righteous Bison and Engineers with the Pomson 6000 can light arrows to add fire damage." sounds odd, should it be changed to "Friendly Pyros, Soldiers, and Engineers can light arrows to add fire damage with any Flamethrower, the Righteous Bison, and the Pomson 600" or "Friendly Pyros, Soldiers, and Engineers can light arrows with any Flamethrower, the Righteous Bison, and the Pomson 600 to add fire damage"?
 
 
 
Also, the Sydney Sleeper has both the stats "Scoped shots extinguish flames on wielder and allied players." and "Unlike the Jarate, this cannot extinguish burning allies on hit". Is the second stat an error or referring to the fact that you can't extinguish with a noscope, which is already stated in the first one?
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:DrAntagonist|DrAntagonist]]''' ([[User talk:DrAntagonist|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/DrAntagonist|contribs]]) </small>
 
 
 
== Sydney sleeper update ==
 
 
 
the weapon information on the Sydney sleeper on this page give incorrect information about jarate not working on player. with the new update the Sydney sleeper now extinguished allies so it should be changed.
 
 
 
[[User:Redindy|Redindy]] ([[User talk:Redindy|talk]]) 09:11, 4 August 2016 (PDT)
 
 
 
:The page looks correct to me. What do you mean it "works on player?" --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|50px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 09:16, 4 August 2016 (PDT)
 
 
 
== The Sniper and his sex life ==
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkSXpe6iaPY&feature=youtu.be Lowrie says that the Sniper likes Bangkok prostitutes and sheep. There's a transcript hanging around somewhere but O can't link. Honestly though, I think I know where he figures in Hale's little comment on "Drunks, Defectives, Sex criminals and War criminals". [[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] ([[User talk:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|talk]]) 14:42, 27 September 2016 (PDT)
 
 
 
:Until we get official confirmation by Valve, leave that out and consider it unofficial. Same reason why we don't say his first name is Mick. --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|30px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 15:46, 27 September 2016 (PDT)
 
::[[File:User McRela BloodyHell.gif]]
 
:: Seriously? Harley Quinn hyenaholic, you really think that should be here? O_o  [[User:McRela|McRela]] [[File:Holy Mackerel.png|45px|link=User_talk:McRela]] 15:51, 27 September 2016 (PDT)
 
: I know it's frikkin' hilarious, is what it is, and nothing in canon has contradicted it yet. I also know that this Wiki is hideously argumentative about what counts as canon. I mean,  the VA says in an IC interview that his character likes sheep, and yet because Valve personally hasn't said it, people say it might possibly not be true and we can't say it's true. How do you think Fanon becomes Canon? [[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] ([[User talk:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|talk]]) 15:52, 27 September 2016 (PDT)
 
 
 
::Goes back to what I said on why we don't say his first name is Mick despite his action figure saying it is. We don't have official confirmation by Valve, and as far as we're concerned Lowrie could've just been joking. --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|30px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 15:58, 27 September 2016 (PDT)
 
:: Well yeah, it kind of IS the point that he's joking. This is Valve and Team Fortress 2 though, which is a place where fanon is kind enough to become canon and it wouldn't have become canon if we didn't joke about it first. Heh... The best way to make it canon would be to make a hat that the Sniper bought in Bangkok. Or possibly a jacket made of wool that reminds him of his first girlfriend, at least in my opinion. [[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] ([[User talk:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|talk]]) 16:27, 27 September 2016 (PDT)
 

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Update history feels off

There are some entries in the update section that mentions updates to the Sniper class in general, but not to Sniper himself.
For example:

"December 22, 2009 Patch" - "Updated the Baseball and Jarate HUD indicators to stay on screen when full."
"June 18, 2014 Patch" - "The Bushwacka can no longer randomly crit." / "The Hitman's Heatmaker now activates focus by pressing 'reload'."

I don't believe this type of entry should be listed in the update history section. We should either:
- List all entries related to all changes done to Sniper (weapons changes, cosmetics changes etc.); - List only entries related to the Sniper himself, and not entries that are related to the class in general (I prefer this option).
Tiagoquix (talk) 16:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

We should also see how similar articles behave about this to see if they are consistent.
Tiagoquix (talk) 16:53, 20 August 2024 (UTC)