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| − | In the class suggestion area of the TF2 main menu (right upper corner) pyro is being referred to as "her".
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| − | <blockquote>Why don't you give her a shot?</blockquote>
| + | == Pyro Cameos? == |
| | + | How about adding a small section in the gallery (or even a few pics in the current gallery) of the cameos that Pyro made in other non-valve games? |
| | + | As an example- Pyro, Spy and Heavy were featured as racing characters in the PC version of Sonic All-Star Racing. [[User:Yossef|Yossef]] | [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User_talk:Yossef Talk] | [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yossef Contributions] 22:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC) |
| | + | : [[List of references]]. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 23:15, 2 November 2021 (UTC) |
| | + | :: I wasn’t clear, sorry for the confusion. What I meant is that perhaps adding the Pyro (or any class) model that appears in other games, to show the reader how does the pyro looks in the games in question. For instance, showing how does the Pyro looks in Killing Floor. Furthermore, perhaps doing the same thing in the List of References? Adding the character models next to the games that they appeared. [[User:Yossef|Yossef]] | [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User_talk:Yossef Talk] | [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Yossef Contributions] 07:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC) |
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| − | I consider this to be quite a confirmation enough to say that pyro is a woman. I've been on a many month break from TF2, but I know about the speculation and weird evidence for and against pyro being a woman. I'll be editing the article accordingly. --[[User:Maska|Maska]] 16:28, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
| + | :::If we did this with the Pyro article, we would have to do it with the articles for all the other classes. As such, it would be better to do it in List of references, since re references are already listed there. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 07:20, 3 November 2021 (UTC) |
| − | :It says he too. This is old. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 16:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC) | |
| − | ::I actually think Pyro is a duck. -- [[User:En Ex|En Ex]] 16:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Oh, ok. A nice move from Valve. -- [[User:Maska|Maska]] 17:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Indeed. Valve trolling us. :3 -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]]{{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 17:39, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | guy, says so in the game files
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| − | "demo" "male"
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| − | "engineer" "male"
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| − | "heavy" "male"
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| − | "heavy_hwm" "male"
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| − | "medic" "male"
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| − | '''"pyro" "male"'''
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| − | "scout" "male"
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| − | "sniper" "male"
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| − | "soldier" "male"
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| − | "spy" "male"
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| − | } source: scripts/global_actors.txt. If anything, it's just a little joke calling some men (like the pyro) ladies[[User:Sam-1-14|Sam-1-14]] 19:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : That may just be referring to the fact that the voice actor is male. Truly, I believe there is no definitive answer and Valve will never provide one. Just leave the page ambiguous and let the conspiracy theories fly. It's fun! --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Firestorm Nuke Sig.jpg]] 20:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Just make him a guy and move on Valve.God! [[User:CANPoo|CANPoo]] 02:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)CANPoo
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| − | My theory is that he's Gromit, from Wallace and Gromit.-CdeMonkey
| + | == Pyro's gender == |
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| − | There should be a section devoted to the pyro's gender confusion.
| + | I think it's noteworthy in the Trivia section that the game's file global_actors.txt located inside tf2_misc_dir.vpk lists tf2 classes genders and for Pyro it says "male". |
| | + | [[User:Mido|Mido]] ([[User talk:Mido|talk]]) 20:46, 21 May 2022 (UTC) |
| | + | :Pyro's gender remains unknown until Valve reveals it, which will never happen probably · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 21:09, 21 May 2022 (UTC) |
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| − | *The main menu refers to the Pyro as either '''"him"''' or '''"her"''', randomly changing each time the game is started.
| + | :This file has to do with voice lines for certain genders, such as the HL2 civilians. Nothing actually to do with the gender of Pyro.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 00:07, 22 May 2022 (UTC) |
| − | *The game files (scripts/global_actors.txt) refers to the pyro as '''"male"'''
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| − | *The Pyro's Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask shows a picture of a small bird, implying that the pyro is '''a chick'''
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| − | *The Pyro Beanie seems to imply that the Pyro is a '''boy''' (or merely that the Pyro has a childlike intellect)
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| − | *The whiskered gentleman is an obvious nod towards The Pyro being '''male'''. The Guadalajara is not exactly a feminine item either.
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| − | [[User:Layzergun|Layzergun]] 20:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | |
| − | * Pyro has a purse in the 2for locker <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Thespy|Thespy]] ([[User talk:Thespy|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Thespy|contribs]]) 01:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)</small>
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| − | ==Airblast's basic tips== | + | == Collective Noun for Pyros == |
| − | I know the basic tips section is off-limit, but I think it'd be appropriate adding the new airblast related tips. After all it's a vanilla feature.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 10:26, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :It's not "vanilla", as it was added after the Pyro Update. [[User:Danton|Danton]] 06:03, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::It depends more on what you mean by "vanilla": to me (and reasonably) they're all the features you have right off the bat. Compression Blast, upgradable dispensers/teleporters, cloak recharging through metal and building hauling are all abilities you have at your disposition the very moment you start the game for the first time, and therefore they should be in the basic tip section. I concur it should be noted they're available on the PC version of the game only (even if to me it seems the Wiki is almost entirely PC-oriented).--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 13:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::{{c|Support}} The definition of "vanilla" in regards to software is "as delivered" - including "[upgraded] with official patches" (Just putting this here generally to avoid confusion). Dictionary aside, I don't see why a few airblast tips can't be under "Basic Strategy". -[[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 13:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I agree, the airblast is more a patch to fix an existing weapon, not an entirely new weapon
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| − | [[User:Layzergun|Layzergun]] 23:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Pyro ==
| + | I would like to suggest adding a Collective Noun for a group of pyros, similar to how its called a Murder of Crows. |
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| − | You may want to put this 'suspicous' woman with a bag that looks like the pyro's locker bag, even with the flower, on the sacrifice comic from L4D.http://www.l4d.com/comic/comic.php?page=26 [[User:CANPoo|CANPoo]] 02:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
| + | Collective Noun suggestions: A Kindling, A Fire Hazard, An Asylum. |
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| − | Nice, I never saw that... maybe it travelled dimensions with Bill's hat! [[User:Wesson07|Wesson07]] 20:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
| + | [[User:Angzarr Psyco|Angzarr Psyco]] ([[User talk:Angzarr Psyco|talk]]) 15:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC) |
| − | :If you ask me, it looks more like a box, not a bag. But the flower could mean something.[[User:Jarhead|Jarhead]] 03:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Jarhead
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| − | == Pyro's trivia ==
| + | :I'm not sure it's necessary, as a group of Pyros is pretty rare.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:09, 17 June 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | "The Pyro is the only class in the game that possesses weapons in each slot that can individually guarantee Critical hits under certain circumstances; the Backburner Crits enemies from behind, the Flare Gun Crits ignited targets at long range, and the Axtinguisher Crits ignited targets." | + | :: Well, they could be called a "drag", only because when you ''do'' see pyros together, it is to pull a sliegh ([[SnowVille]]), and a team that pulls a sleigh is called a drag. Sure! :)= |
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| − | This is debatable. The spy has the ambassador and the knife, and the sapper isn't a weapon per se. Should this be changed? - [[User:Mistah Phoenix|Mistah Phoenix]] 18:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
| + | :::There is no official collective noun for a group of Pyros. If the community ever agreed on a term, it would be limited to strategy pages, as it would be a ''community'' term, not an ''official'' one. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 11:00, 18 June 2023 (UTC) |
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| − | I erased a Trivia fact that said that on the Xbox360 Version of Team Fortress 2, The Pyro is completely fire-retardant. This is incorrect, I play the Xbox360 version. He is not completely fire-retardant.
| + | == Nostromo Napalmer/Rainblower discrepancy == |
| − | : Ah, I just reverted your edit. I'll remove it again; thanks for participating, and don't forget to sign your talk page-edits with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>! ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|t]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|c]])</sup> 22:42, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == He/She ==
| + | Both the Nostromo's and the Rainblower have small differences from stock, such as taunts, pyrovision, and instant Scouts with a certain set of cosmetics. Why is the Rainblower apart from stock but the Nostromo's isn't? <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Adeeta|Adeeta]]''' ([[User talk:Adeeta|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Adeeta|contribs]]) 2023-08-29, 18:30 UTC</small> |
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| − | Can we just shorten this to "it"? We don't even know if its a blasted human or not!--[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 12:47, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
| + | :Please sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. |
| − | :Say "the Pyro" instead of he, she or it. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 12:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
| + | :Assuming you mean the weapon table, this is because the notes on the right have to include the Pyrovision stat, as that is active at all times. The only time the Napalmer is different is in a very rare scenario during Full Moon or Halloween. This effect is also a set bonus and not tied to the actual weapon.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 18:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC) |
| − | ::Hrm. Sounds good to me. I'll give the page a good poking at with this. --[[User:Vaught|Vaught]] 12:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | maybe Pyro's a robot! :D [[User:Wesson07|Wesson07]] 10:40, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == "Meet the Pyro" Fan Video ==
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| − | Not sure if anyone else has seen this, but il guess il be the (first?) one to say this,
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| − | theres this video of Meet The Pyro made by two fans of the pyro seen here:
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| − | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-jfygVEE0
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| − | [[User:Gamecrazy009|Gamecrazy009]] 17:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Ah yes the meet the pyro video... maybe we should create a pyro fan video page. - [[User:Meter1060|Meter1060]] 18:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Trivia still correct? ==
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| − | "There is a small issue in the Pyro's BLU team icon, where the Pyro holds a Red Team Flamethrower instead of the BLU Team Flamethrower. This can be seen in the class menu in-game while on BLU team."
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| − | Is this still the case? I couldn't verify it.
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| − | "There is a small issue in the Pyro's icon used in the HUD, where the BLU Pyro's icon resembles the Beta Pyro, while the RED Pyro retains the final version of the Pyro."
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| − | The difference was the tank on the back right? The color of the tank is yellow. So I assume the black tank is the beta version. But I just checked and the RED Pyro had the black tank while the BLU Pyro had the yellow one. Doesn't that mean that the RED Pyro is using the beta model?
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| − | [[User:Gamer 7601|Gamer 7601]] 16:46, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == what? ==
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| − | A friend of mine says pyro was found in a mariachi band in Mexico at a gas station. Any confirmation.
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| − | [[User:dwy1996|dwy1996]] 23:12, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Small question ==
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| − | Opinion, which looks better?
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| − | {| class="wikitable grid" width="100%"
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| − | ! class="header" width="10%" | Weapon
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| − | ! class="header" width="5%" | Weapon Name
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| − | ! class="header" width="5%" | Kill Icon
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| − | ! class="header" width="10%" | Ammo<br/>Loaded
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| − | ! class="header" width="5%" | Ammo<br/>Carried
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| − | ! class="header" width="15%" | Damage Range
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| − | ! class="header" width="30%" | Notes / Special Abilities
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| − | ! {{Icon weapon|weapon=Flamethrower|icon-size=100x100px}}<br/><small>Stock</small>
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| − | | '''[[Flamethrower]]'''
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| − | | align="center" | {{Icon killicon|weapon=Flamethrower}}
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| − | | '''Fire''':
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| − | :200
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| − | '''Air blasts''':
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| − | :10
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| − | <small>(same reserve)</small>
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| − | | N/A
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| − | | '''Base (Max)''':
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| − | :139.4 <small>/ sec.</small>
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| − | '''[[Crit]] (Max)''':
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| − | :418.2 <small>/ sec.</small>
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| − | '''Afterburn''':
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| − | :6 <small>/ sec. × 10 secs.<sup>1</sup></small>
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| − | {{Info}}Secondary fire blasts [[compression blast|compressed air]] which knocks back enemies, redirects enemy projectiles, and extinguishes flames on teammates, using 20 ammo per blast. All reflected rockets/grenades/arrows will inflict [[Mini-Crit]] damage.
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| − | ===Primary===
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| − | {| class="wikitable grid" width="100%"
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| − | ! class="header" width="10%" | Weapon
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| − | ! class="header" width="10%" | Ammo<br/>Loaded
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| − | ! class="header" width="5%" | Ammo<br/>Carried
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| − | ! class="header" width="15%" | Damage Range
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| − | ! {{Icon weapon|weapon=Flamethrower|icon-size=100x100px}}<br/><small>Stock</small><br/> '''[[Flamethrower]]'''
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| − | | align="center" | {{Icon killicon|weapon=Flamethrower}}
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| − | | '''Fire''':
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| − | :200
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| − | '''Air blasts''':
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| − | :10
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| − | <small>(same reserve)</small>
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| − | | N/A
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| − | | '''Base (Max)''':
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| − | :139.4 <small>/ sec.</small>
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| − | '''[[Crit]] (Max)''':
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| − | :418.2 <small>/ sec.</small>
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| − | '''Afterburn''':
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| − | :6 <small>/ sec. × 10 secs.<sup>1</sup></small>
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| − | {{Info}}Secondary fire blasts [[compression blast|compressed air]] which knocks back enemies, redirects enemy projectiles, and extinguishes flames on teammates, using 20 ammo per blast. All reflected rockets/grenades/arrows will inflict [[Mini-Crit]] damage.
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| − | It just doesn't feel right to have the weapon icon in an unlabeled section and the rest having a label. The first creates '''Weapon Name''' column. The other merges the two, creating a bit more room. I wanted your say. :s --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 21:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I'd say choice 2, but I don't have a really good reason. I guess I just like it a bit more compact [[User:Natemckn|Natemckn]] 21:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Need more feedback! --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 02:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: I love the second version! You shouldn't talk this here though, maybe the Weapons page or even the Wiki page, as it affects all weapons and class pages. — [[File:Item_icon_Bonk!_Atomic_Punch.png|link=http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Neo_Player|25px]] [[User:Neo_Player|<span style="color: #FF6600; font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 2px;">Neo_Player</span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:Neo_Player|<span style="background: #FFFF00; color: #FF0000; padding: 0 1px;">t</span>]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/Neo_Player|<span style="background: #FF0000; color: #FFFF00; padding: 0 1px;">c</span>]])</sup> 03:45, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I really like choice 2. Why have the name of the weapon have its own little section, when it can be under the picture of the weapon saving much needed room. Choice 2 makes more sense. I also agree with Neo_Player, this isn't a small question, it's a very, very BIG one, this should be done with every weapon.[[User:Jarhead|Jarhead]] 03:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Jarhead
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| − | :::: I prefer the second one for pretty much every reason everybody else has already stated. [[User:Scatmanjohn|<b><sup>Scatman</sup> <sub>John</sub></b>]][[File:User_Scatman.png|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Scatmanjohn|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Scatmanjohn|Contrib]])</small> 22:41, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::I do prefer choice 2, too. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{sta|WindPower}} 22:42, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::I prefer the second one too, but would rather the weapon name was under the availability. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 22:43, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Thought it was like that originally. Changed it properly! --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 05:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::Perfect. 2nd one all the way ;p '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 05:28, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::: I really think that the second one should be implemented it saves space and gets rid of an unnecessary column [[User:Lexicon249|Lexicon249]] 05:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Should we round these since it's not possible to do a fraction of a damage point? --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 02:33, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Makes sense to me, my only concern is if after several hits it does add the extra decimal on. In other words, if it ends in .4/second. after 3 seconds it goes up to 1.2 and the game adds it back in. Although, the difference would be negligible overall, and would likely go unnoticed.
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| s | GrampaSwood (talk) 18:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC)