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== Wrong "Hit" Noises ==
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When you hit a team mate theres seems to be a chance that it makes a chain link fence noise. [[User:Meter1060|Meter1060]] 04:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Spy kill? Spy heal? Which one could it be?==
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As the title suggests, would it kill disguised spies or heal them? This is a bit confusing... if it has the same characteristics as the huntsman maybe the arrows act the same and kill the spy? I am confused x.x [[User:Vulturas|Vulturas]] 16:21, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
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== Bolt vs Syringe ==
PS: It should be noted if it does/does not kill spies.
 
  
== Healing ==
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The description of the Crossbow refers to the projectiles as "special bolts" and it is a crossbow so that should be the correct term. The article refers them as syringes. So should the article refer to them as bolts or should it just remain as syringes? My vote would be bolt since that is what the actual item itself calls them. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 11:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
The Crosbw is able to heal Soldiers that are equipping the Equalizer, is it a bug or an intended feature? --[[User:Rascalov|Rascalov]] 13:31, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 
:Pretty sure that it's a feature of the weapon. But hey, if Valve doesn't like it, they'll patch it. [[User:Sven|Sven]] 18:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
 
  
==Arrow model==
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:I think either works, but neither is preferable. A crossbow projectile is called a bolt, but in this case the projectile is a syringe, so neither is incorrect and neither is more correct than the other.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
Shouldn't this get its own crossbow bolt model? Getting shot by hunstman arrows looks silly and is kind of confusing [[User:Anonynja|Anonynja]] 18:15, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
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:: If that's the case then it should probably use them a bit more interchangeably. Currently it seems like it's biased towards and prefers Syringe. 25 uses for Syringe vs 7 for Bolt. Obviously some of that is unavoidable because of the update history and such but a bit more bolt would not hurt and could spice it up a little. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 13:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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:::I'm not sure that it's much of a problem, the strategy pages refer to them as bolts quite a bit too.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 13:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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== reloading when not active, really? ==
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it only reloads the first shot in the clip
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so, if you get clip upgrades in MVM it doesn't reload the clip, just the first one in the clip.
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[[User:Keenan|Keenan]] ([[User talk:Keenan|talk]]) 18:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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:IIRC that is the case, yes, but that would be considered a bug.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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::yeah, may have something to do with it being the only clip weapon that can reload while inactive AFAIK.<br>[[User:Keenan|Keenan]] ([[User talk:Keenan|talk]]) 19:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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:::Based on the game's code (game\shared\tf\tf_weapon_rocketlauncher.cpp:L704-705. Yes, this means the Crossbow is a modified Rocket Launcher) it only checks if the clip is 0, rather than a dynamic number that changes based on the max primary ammo.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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== trivia addition ==
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there should be an extra trivia mentioning how this is the only non-pyro weapon with the stat "This weapon will reload automatically when not active"
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[[User:Keenan|Keenan]] ([[User talk:Keenan|talk]]) 19:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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:This would break the [[XofY]] Trivia rule, comparing one item's characteristics to another's.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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::ah, didn't know that was a thing, thanks for informing me<br>[[User:Keenan|Keenan]] ([[User talk:Keenan|talk]]) 19:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Bolt vs Syringe

The description of the Crossbow refers to the projectiles as "special bolts" and it is a crossbow so that should be the correct term. The article refers them as syringes. So should the article refer to them as bolts or should it just remain as syringes? My vote would be bolt since that is what the actual item itself calls them. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 11:03, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

I think either works, but neither is preferable. A crossbow projectile is called a bolt, but in this case the projectile is a syringe, so neither is incorrect and neither is more correct than the other.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
If that's the case then it should probably use them a bit more interchangeably. Currently it seems like it's biased towards and prefers Syringe. 25 uses for Syringe vs 7 for Bolt. Obviously some of that is unavoidable because of the update history and such but a bit more bolt would not hurt and could spice it up a little. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 13:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure that it's much of a problem, the strategy pages refer to them as bolts quite a bit too.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 13:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

reloading when not active, really?

it only reloads the first shot in the clip so, if you get clip upgrades in MVM it doesn't reload the clip, just the first one in the clip. Keenan (talk) 18:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

IIRC that is the case, yes, but that would be considered a bug.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
yeah, may have something to do with it being the only clip weapon that can reload while inactive AFAIK.
Keenan (talk) 19:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Based on the game's code (game\shared\tf\tf_weapon_rocketlauncher.cpp:L704-705. Yes, this means the Crossbow is a modified Rocket Launcher) it only checks if the clip is 0, rather than a dynamic number that changes based on the max primary ammo.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:15, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

trivia addition

there should be an extra trivia mentioning how this is the only non-pyro weapon with the stat "This weapon will reload automatically when not active" Keenan (talk) 19:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

This would break the XofY Trivia rule, comparing one item's characteristics to another's.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
ah, didn't know that was a thing, thanks for informing me
Keenan (talk) 19:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)