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We only document other games if they are directly relevant to Team Fortress or have promotional items. This page, along with the ones for [[Left 4 Dead]] and [[Counter-Strike]], offer no value to this wiki. I'd suggest either reverting the "split" or just redirecting/deleting them. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 20:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
 
We only document other games if they are directly relevant to Team Fortress or have promotional items. This page, along with the ones for [[Left 4 Dead]] and [[Counter-Strike]], offer no value to this wiki. I'd suggest either reverting the "split" or just redirecting/deleting them. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 20:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
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:I can see the reasoning behind it, and if we do decide to keep it as-is we would have to feature other games from Valve as well. I think to avoid that, simply merging the pages into a series page rather than their own pages (see [[Half-Life]]) is what I prefer.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
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:: [[Half-Life]] being a page about the game ''series'' and having a "buy now" link for the first game is a bad example imo. It should either be a page about the ''first'' Half-Life game or a page about the series (which should list all games in the Half-Life series and moved/renamed to "Half-Life series").
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:: I understand the rationale of having a page for game series, but they are simply not relevant. We would never consider documenting all the Witcher games just because of the promo item from The Witcher 2. And I see no point in making an exemption for Valve games either (we could definitely make a list of Valve [[Valve|somewhere]] but that's a talk for another day :^)).
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:: Game pages are mostly used as "hubs" for the promo items. Making a page for Portal 2 has value: it links to all ''Portal 2''-themed items, has a basic description of the game and some relevant links. In contrast, a page for Portal 1 could be reduced to a brief text passage within the Portal 2 article. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 21:37, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
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:::imo it would either be for the entire series (the articles have existed for quite a while now, I don't see much reason to not keep them for legacy reasons) or the irrelevant games would be deleted entirely. I prefer the merge, but would support the deletion otherwise.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
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:::: I'm with Tark, delete them. We don't have a bunch of pages covering Lara Croft: Relic Run or Worms Pinball. They're not relevant to Team Fortress and they shouldn't be here on the wiki. I don't see much reason to keep them for legacy reasons. [[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Mediarch'''}}]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[User talk:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Talk'''}}]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''My Edits'''}}]] 01:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
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:::::{{Pro}} I'd vote for these articles to be deleted... as mentioned before, they add no value to wiki. [[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 10:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
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::::::{{Pro}} '''Support.'''<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 14:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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:::::::{{Pro}} '''Support.''' - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 15:29, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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{{Outdent}} My understanding was these existed only as consistent link points for games mentioned on the wiki. AFAICT, these games are not mentioned in the main space, curiously enough. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Arial"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙ </font></span>]] </small><!--             
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We only document other games if they are directly relevant to Team Fortress or have promotional items. This page, along with the ones for Left 4 Dead and Counter-Strike, offer no value to this wiki. I'd suggest either reverting the "split" or just redirecting/deleting them. — Tark 20:35, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I can see the reasoning behind it, and if we do decide to keep it as-is we would have to feature other games from Valve as well. I think to avoid that, simply merging the pages into a series page rather than their own pages (see Half-Life) is what I prefer.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:42, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Half-Life being a page about the game series and having a "buy now" link for the first game is a bad example imo. It should either be a page about the first Half-Life game or a page about the series (which should list all games in the Half-Life series and moved/renamed to "Half-Life series").
I understand the rationale of having a page for game series, but they are simply not relevant. We would never consider documenting all the Witcher games just because of the promo item from The Witcher 2. And I see no point in making an exemption for Valve games either (we could definitely make a list of Valve somewhere but that's a talk for another day :^)).
Game pages are mostly used as "hubs" for the promo items. Making a page for Portal 2 has value: it links to all Portal 2-themed items, has a basic description of the game and some relevant links. In contrast, a page for Portal 1 could be reduced to a brief text passage within the Portal 2 article. — Tark 21:37, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
imo it would either be for the entire series (the articles have existed for quite a while now, I don't see much reason to not keep them for legacy reasons) or the irrelevant games would be deleted entirely. I prefer the merge, but would support the deletion otherwise.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm with Tark, delete them. We don't have a bunch of pages covering Lara Croft: Relic Run or Worms Pinball. They're not relevant to Team Fortress and they shouldn't be here on the wiki. I don't see much reason to keep them for legacy reasons. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 01:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png  I'd vote for these articles to be deleted... as mentioned before, they add no value to wiki. YossefTalk 10:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png  Support.
Tiagoquix (talk) 14:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png  Support. - BrazilianNut (talk) 15:29, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── My understanding was these existed only as consistent link points for games mentioned on the wiki. AFAICT, these games are not mentioned in the main space, curiously enough. M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (contact)(Help Wanted!) 02:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)