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Will add this later in the main section following irc discussion.
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Promotional items (and event items) are not explicitly marked as uncraftable, however, unlike regular hats they do not yeild headgear when combined.
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Should the whole Vintage Lugermorph business be added in the notes of the Sam & Max Lugermorph? If so, here's a sentence that could be added: "These Lugermorphs became [[Rarity#Vintage items|Vintage]] when the Poker Night at the Inventory items were added to the game in the [[November 19, 2010 Patch]]" [[User:Nizar|Nizar]] 07:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Simplifying the templates ==
:It's already mentioned on the lugermorph article. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 08:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Limited Items ==
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The "Used by", "Type", "Released", and "Notes" columns in the templates all have information that can be found in the articles for the items. The "Notes" column is specially problematic, as community events that grant unique rewards still happen, making it so translations need to be constantly added - the result is a lot of text in English in this article's translations.
  
Should they also end up here? Or is this strictly for the promotional items. Examples being the Cheater's Lament and golden wrench. For that matter, is the golden wrench technically limited or promotional, or both? -= [[User:M-NINJA|<font color="Blue">'''M-NINJA'''</font>]] [[File:Burger_Gib.png|24px|link=User_talk:M-NINJA]] =- 03:15, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
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I suggest we apply the same format used in the [[Cosmetic_items#List_of_cosmetic_items|List of [class] cosmetics]] pages - not only it would remove the need for constant updates, it would also shorten the page's length ''a lot''. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 04:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
:Promotional means just that. Not limited. That's something to keep in mind, though. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 03:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Limited in the sense you mean, I mean. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 03:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== New Column? ==
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:I think this should only be done for medals, personally, maybe make a separate charity, tournament, and event participation section so they're all still grouped together.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
  
Now that there are so many promotional items with varying states of obtainability, should we consider adding another column to each table row which indicates whether or not a particular item is still obtainable? Example values would be "No", "Craft (Non-Genuine only)", "Purchase (Non-Genuine only)", "Achievement", etc. [[User:Noibn|Noibn]] 14:53, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
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== NECA Action Figures ==
  
== Japan Charity Items ==
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Currently, in the "Active" section of the promotional item list, it is stated in that the three [[Promotional items#NECA Action Figures|NECA Action Figures]] "...has not been released by NECA or Valve.".
I've already tried to discuss this on the [[Magnanimous Monarch|talk:Magnanimous Monarch]] page, but no-one's really given me any feedback.
 
I think it takes some of the meaning out of the [[Japan Charity Bundle]] items being charitable if they are listed as being "promotional" - this associates them with marketing and advertising, which isn't the point of them at all. I suggest making a new section for [[Charity items]], seeing as there are enough of them to merit a new section. Does anyone else support this? If not, then at the very least the description on the [[Promotional items]] page should be altered to accommodate charity items as well.
 
[[User:Cooper Kid|Cooper Kid]] 18:37, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 
: maybe if there was ever another "charity item" it'd warrant it [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]] 22:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 
: There are 5 of them - I think that's enough to warrant a new page. [[User:Cooper Kid|Cooper Kid]] 11:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 
: I support a second page as well, even if we never get any additional charity items. It just seems like bad form to mix and mingle "charity" with "promotion". [[User:Noibn|Noibn]] 14:56, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 
  
== Steam Game Gifts ==
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Moreover, I have not found any proof that these action figures were even announced or in production.
I found something very interesting a short while ago. I had purchased a 4 Pack of Monday Night Combat back during the promotional period. One of the guys in on the split bailed so I was stuck with an extra copy. I found that when I gifted it to another player through Steam, the user still got the promotional items, even though the promotion had long since ended! [[User:Nam-Ereh-Won|Nam-Ereh-Won]] 20:22, 3 July 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Requested move ==
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I vote for this section to be removed altogether; '''first''' because these figures were not even released, no need to have them in the "Active" section. '''Secondly''', there is no proof that they are in production in the first place (Unless there is and I missed something).
Move article to ''Promotional item''? I think singular is better than plural for an article title, would look neater. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 00:43, 8 July 2011 (PDT)
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As always, I'd love to hear your opinion in the matter.
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[[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 08:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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: This is a somewhat unique situation. It's true that NECA hasn't announced production of the BLU Series 4 figures, as far as I am aware. But since they '''are''' documented in the item schema, and are definitely the intended promotional items ''for'' the remaining NECA figures, I don't think they should be removed from the page entirely; I would recommend moving them to an "unreleased items" section, below the expired ones, the same way I handled tournament medals that were defined in the schema, but went unused, as their events passed without a way to obtain them. — [[File:User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png|30px|link=User:ThatHatGuy]] 09:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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::{{Pro}} This is an interesting idea, I'm down to remove it from the "Active" section and create a "Unreleased" section below, like you mentioned. [[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 10:37, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::{{Pro}} I support moving them to an "Unreleased" section as well. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 11:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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::::{{Done}} Thanks everyone for your two cents. [[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 13:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
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== Goodie cauldron. ==
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Expired now, right? [[User:Cheezcracker|Cheezcracker]] ([[User talk:Cheezcracker|talk]]) 15:27, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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:Yeah.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 15:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
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== Some Total War items are still obtainable ==
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Some of the promotional items from Total War Franchise like Genuine Freedom Staff, Genuine King of Scotland Cape, Genuine Stovepipe Sniper Shako, Genuine Foppish Physician, Genuine Distinguished Rogue, Genuine Menpo and Genuine K-9 Mane are still obtainable for activating Retail Total War keys, like Total War Master Collection. [https://i.imgur.com/M0kVKqI.png Image 1], [https://i.imgur.com/71kJQSH.png Image 2].
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[[User:TvojjKott|TvojjKott]] ([[User talk:TvojjKott|talk]]) 21:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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:Looks legit, I'll move them.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 22:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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== BioShock Infinite - Season Pass Promotional Items are still obtainable ==
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After purchasing the Bioshock Infinite + Season Pass bundle recently on Steam I have received the promotional items associated with the Season Pass. Strangely I didn't receive any promotional items for Bioshock Infinite itself however, and I can't confirm whether buying the season pass alone would grant these items. [https://i.imgur.com/QF9XmRW.png Image].
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[[User:Cilantro|Cilantro]] ([[User talk:Cilantro|talk]]) 23:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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:Would you be able to provide us with the image of the products being bought on these dates?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 14:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:33, 4 June 2024

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Simplifying the templates

The "Used by", "Type", "Released", and "Notes" columns in the templates all have information that can be found in the articles for the items. The "Notes" column is specially problematic, as community events that grant unique rewards still happen, making it so translations need to be constantly added - the result is a lot of text in English in this article's translations.

I suggest we apply the same format used in the List of [class] cosmetics pages - not only it would remove the need for constant updates, it would also shorten the page's length a lot. - BrazilianNut (talk) 04:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

I think this should only be done for medals, personally, maybe make a separate charity, tournament, and event participation section so they're all still grouped together.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 10:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

NECA Action Figures

Currently, in the "Active" section of the promotional item list, it is stated in that the three NECA Action Figures "...has not been released by NECA or Valve.".

Moreover, I have not found any proof that these action figures were even announced or in production.

I vote for this section to be removed altogether; first because these figures were not even released, no need to have them in the "Active" section. Secondly, there is no proof that they are in production in the first place (Unless there is and I missed something).

As always, I'd love to hear your opinion in the matter.

YossefTalk 08:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

This is a somewhat unique situation. It's true that NECA hasn't announced production of the BLU Series 4 figures, as far as I am aware. But since they are documented in the item schema, and are definitely the intended promotional items for the remaining NECA figures, I don't think they should be removed from the page entirely; I would recommend moving them to an "unreleased items" section, below the expired ones, the same way I handled tournament medals that were defined in the schema, but went unused, as their events passed without a way to obtain them. — User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png 09:44, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png  This is an interesting idea, I'm down to remove it from the "Active" section and create a "Unreleased" section below, like you mentioned. YossefTalk 10:37, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png  I support moving them to an "Unreleased" section as well. - BrazilianNut (talk) 11:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Pictogram tick.png Done Thanks everyone for your two cents. YossefTalk 13:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Goodie cauldron.

Expired now, right? Cheezcracker (talk) 15:27, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 15:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Some Total War items are still obtainable

Some of the promotional items from Total War Franchise like Genuine Freedom Staff, Genuine King of Scotland Cape, Genuine Stovepipe Sniper Shako, Genuine Foppish Physician, Genuine Distinguished Rogue, Genuine Menpo and Genuine K-9 Mane are still obtainable for activating Retail Total War keys, like Total War Master Collection. Image 1, Image 2.

TvojjKott (talk) 21:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Looks legit, I'll move them.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 22:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

BioShock Infinite - Season Pass Promotional Items are still obtainable

After purchasing the Bioshock Infinite + Season Pass bundle recently on Steam I have received the promotional items associated with the Season Pass. Strangely I didn't receive any promotional items for Bioshock Infinite itself however, and I can't confirm whether buying the season pass alone would grant these items. Image. Cilantro (talk) 23:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Would you be able to provide us with the image of the products being bought on these dates?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 14:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)