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Where was the description found? I only find the trading card which is not quite the same. [[User:E rac|E rac]] 02:11, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 
: All Meet The Team videos have a character bio featured along with them. [[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 02:13, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 
::http://tf2.com/demoman.htm is the direct link for the Demoman's bio. --[[User:Woof|Woof]] 02:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Class Badge ==
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So uh, which one do we stick with? The Bomb one is on the Meet the Demoman page, but the Demo that's on the page doesn't even have a class emblem on him to begin with :/
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== Crypt School ==
  
I got a [http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/Vi3trice/Demoman_badge_RED_2.png RED] and [http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/Vi3trice/Demoman_badge_BLU_2.png BLU] version of the one that's on the in-game Demoman. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 14:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
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Being curious about the Crypt School Demoman attended, this one discovered an [[w:The Crypt School|authentic grammar school of such name]] in Gloucester, where not actually belongs to the Highlands. Basically, it can be conclued that it's a fictional school in TF2.
:Nice Vi3trice, they'd should be included in the trivia section like the beta Soldier's.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 13:53, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 
::Yep, nice one Vi3. Stick them on the page, in the bio and move the ones currently there into the trvia. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 13:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 
  
==Sticky Launcher is the Primary weapon==
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Nevertheless, as a note for translators, the word "Crypt" is more like a part of its name than a certain modifier.
Look at his loadout section.. [[User:The Unbeholden|The Unbeholden]] 09:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 
:Well the sticky launcher is secondary, but for crafting purposes its primary. same with the revolver, its primary, but for crafting purposes its secondary [[User:M-NINJA|M-NINJA]] 23:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::And why Valve does that strange things? when they release a new grenade launcher (if they do that) it will be a chaos. --[[User:Jagoba RL|Jagoba RL]] 17:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::See the discussion [[Template talk:Allweapons Nav#Demo.27s slots|here]] please :) [[User:MK|MK]] 21:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Demoman has a new emblem ==
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[[File:User Dereko Name.png|100px|link=User:Dereko]] 03:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
  
http://i52.tinypic.com/jpwto2.jpg
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== "Demoman as young teen" ==
  
Where would the emblem be stored (like the other ones on here)?
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This has been bugging me for months, on the page before the one the panel is taken from, he clearly states he was seven years old at the time. Also there's a missing "a" from the middle of that sentence. --[[User:Demosoldieryaoifan2002|Demosoldieryaoifan2002]] ([[User talk:Demosoldieryaoifan2002|talk]]) 21:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:Spotted this change as well. Curious why Valve did this. In any case, I don't seem to understand your question. Could you rephrase it? --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 00:00, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Where would the emblem be placed on the article. The answer to that would probably be the Bio. [[User:MasterOfTheXP|MasterOfTheXP]] 02:59, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
The watermark (in the upper left) will also have to be replaced. I have no clue how to go about doing that, though, nor do I know who made and/or posted the previous ones on the other class pages. [[User:Boomsta|Boomsta]] 03:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:Could the creator of the stickybomb emblem watermark pass me the picture of the stickybomb? It would be really useful for me and I don't feel like ripping it off the background. [[User:Uzikus|Uzikus]] 17:45, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::This is a little saddening for valve to change this. Then again his primary weapon is controversial. [[User:M-NINJA|M-NINJA]] 22:32, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Still requesting the new emblem in teamcoloured form. [[User:Uzikus|Uzikus]] 13:12, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
 
Is it yet another new emblem in the companion cube pin promo photo with the demo and pyro? It looks like a stick of dynamite with a fuse, haven't seen it in game. http://www.teamfortress.com/companioncubepin/ [[User:BASEBALLFURIES|BASEBALLFURIES]] 15:42, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 
  
== Related Merchandise ==
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:{{Done}}<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:14, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
  
Should this section really exist in this article?  The merchandise '''is''' related to the Demoman, but it smacks of advertising and isn't encyclopedic. [[User:ButteredToast|ButteredToast]] 16:16, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Is Demoman Black Because of The No True Scotsman Fallacy? ==
  
== Where did you find the card textures? ==
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A Twitter user once told me, I think he's at something here. Too bad Twitter users are only smart when there's drama or arguing, they'd be useful.
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[[User:Dingdong1232|Dingdong1232]] ([[User talk:Dingdong1232|talk]]) 00:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  
Hello. I am trying to find the textures for the cards in PNATI, and I was wondering where you found the images for the cards shown in this, the [[Scout]], and the [[Heavy]] articles. [[User:FYI I Am Some Guy|Hi.]] 21:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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:"At this point, the 3D model for the Demoman was being built and we were preparing to move on. However, there were still some who didn't think he was quite there. A nagging feeling that perhaps the embracing of the archetype was a little to generic. Perhaps a little too much like a groundskeeper in Springfield. We needed a twist to make him more interesting. We didn't want to lose his personality but felt like visually he needed something that broke the cliche. A suggestion was made to have him of African descent and we ran with it." -[https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=1783 A Grim Bloody Fable].<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:The Valve Store. - [[User:Yackemflam|Yack]] [[File:RED_Le_Party_Phantom.png|24px|link=User_talk:Yackemflam]] 03:25, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== That Demo's a Bloodeh Spy! ==
 
 
 
"Unlike all the other classes who scowl when attacking, the Demoman smiles evilly when attacking."
 
 
 
It's true, not too obvious, and not really known about much. Maybe add it to the Trivia? [[User:Lancer anti-tank Rocket|Lancer anti-tank Rocket]] 18:37, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
==No taunts as a con ? ==
 
 
 
I thought that the list only mentions the drawbacks of the weapones from in-game , for example : I don't see that "No taunt" as a {{con}} , and the in-game Loudout for any weapones doesn't show up a red text like saying that there is no taunts , from my point of view i think its pointless , its not even an actual bug to mention . --&ndash; [[User:Gin_Ginster|<font color=#A57545>'''''Gin_Ginster'''''</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Gin_Ginster|talk]])</sub> 18:28, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:The taunt attack is somewhat useful as a insta-kill for snipers and distracted heavies, otherwise it would be 2-6 hits, possibly allowing them to get away.[[User:Eligitine|Eligitine]] 18:59, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 
::I agree, I don't see the lack of a taunt kill as a con. Rather, it's a pro on weapons that do have it. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
i really think its better to remove it / change it into {{pro}} or {{info}} , because it might confuse people like me D: --&ndash; [[User:Gin_Ginster|<font color=#A57545>'''''Gin_Ginster'''''</font>]]<sub>&nbsp;([[User_talk:Gin_Ginster|talk]])</sub> 19:12, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Sticky Launcher is the Primary weapon... again? ==
 
 
 
: Has this now changed as of the 15th March 2011 update? I don't know if it happened to anyone else but my loadout slot for the Grenade Launcher and the Sticker Launcher have changed, along with the rest of the weapons in those slots. This happened to anyone else? I editted it to accomodate for this change but it has been reversed so I'm discussing this here. [[User:JakeSanchard|JakeSanchard]] 00:50, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 
::Huh? Sticky launcher been the "primary" weapon loadout wise as long the loadout system have existed as far I can recall. I noticed no change with the latest patch. [[User:Ailure|Ailure]] 23:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
 
::: I meant in the loadout menu. The two slots have been switched but they still have the same "slots", if you know what I mean :S I'm not even sure I do tbh [[User:JakeSanchard|JakeSanchard]] 01:14, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 
:::: I could sworn it's been that way since forever (though if I had a older version of TF2, I would had checked out to be sure ._.), and the only reason sticky launcher is not binded to 1 instead of 2 on the keyboard is probably a holdover from TFC. Which admittedly adds to the confusion, personally I don't even think of them in terms of primary and secondary while playing demoman as both have their strong uses. [[User:Ailure|Ailure]] 09:18, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Demoman is now offensive? ==
 
 
 
According to [http://www.teamfortress.com/classes.php?class=demoman this page] from the new TF2 layout, the Demoman is considered to be an 'Offensive' class. I'll change the page to reflect this, but if this is a mistake on Valve's part, please disregard the edit and revert. [[User:Wingless|Wingless]] 00:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
It was a mistake. He's now Defense again. Valve probably just screwed up. --[[User:SkunkGER|Skunk :3]] 01:37, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== The booties ==
 
 
 
The table lists the booties as secondary (i.e. shield slot) but for them to take effect the need to be equiped witha shield simulataniously, so shouldn't they go in the primary ('nade launcher slot)? [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 00:08, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 
: It's confusing, but Demoman's GLer is actually secondary [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 00:10, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:: No, the Grenade Launcher is the Primary Slot weapon. The Booties are directly affected by the shield, and are secondary, like the Gunboats. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 00:12, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 
::: In-game, the Demoman's GL is considered the secondary; whereas stickies or shield is the primary. In the real world, it's the other way around. Either way, the Booties will take up the Grenade Launcher slot, as it completes the set. If you look closely at the sword's details, it states that all ammo becomes health, signifying that this new setted Demoman will not have to worry about ammo since he won't have stickies or a grenade launcher. '''[[User:TheChrisD|<font color="green" face="Verdana">TheChrisD</font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Rants</font>]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|<font color="lime">Edits</font>]]</sup> 00:15, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Primary/Secondary switch up ==
 
 
 
I think that it is a major bug that the Demoman's Primary and Seconday slots are different on loadout menu, and when in actual gameplay.  Does anyone else feel that this should be listed as a bug, as it has caused some confusion.  [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 15:04, 4 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Double Images ==
 
 
 
It appears that one of the concept arts has been added to the page twice.  I do not see anything in the guidelines about this, but feel that one should be removed.  I want to get a general concentus about this before actually removing anything though. [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 06:21, 6 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Reducing the infobox ==
 
 
 
Is there a way that we can combine ''"Eyelander, HHHH and Nessie's Nine Iron"'' into one entity for the info box? I know that the information is necessary but they are all the same weapon and then having things like ''"Ali Baba's Wee Booties and the Eyelander, HHHH or Nessie's Nine Iron fully charged"'' takes up quite a bit of space. [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 20:28, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:{{c|Agree}} Yes, it's getting ridiculus. Let's use something like this: {{tooltip|Eyelander|Including Headless Horseless Horsemann's Headtaker or Nessie's Nine Iron.}} --[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 06:22, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:{{c|Agree}} Absolutely. We might as well use {{tooltip|Eyelander|Including Headless Horseless Horsemann's Headtaker or Nessie's Nine Iron}} on any page that uses all three, with certain exceptions (like the taunt kill article). [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 06:30, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:{{c|Agree}} I've been adding the new golf club to lots of pages referenceing this. I think the best thing to do is use the generic term {{tooltip|''head collecting weapons''|Eyelander, HHHH or Nessie's Nine Iron}}. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 07:29, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
 

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Crypt School

Being curious about the Crypt School Demoman attended, this one discovered an authentic grammar school of such name in Gloucester, where not actually belongs to the Highlands. Basically, it can be conclued that it's a fictional school in TF2.

Nevertheless, as a note for translators, the word "Crypt" is more like a part of its name than a certain modifier.

User Dereko Name.png 03:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

"Demoman as young teen"

This has been bugging me for months, on the page before the one the panel is taken from, he clearly states he was seven years old at the time. Also there's a missing "a" from the middle of that sentence. --Demosoldieryaoifan2002 (talk) 21:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Done
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Is Demoman Black Because of The No True Scotsman Fallacy?

A Twitter user once told me, I think he's at something here. Too bad Twitter users are only smart when there's drama or arguing, they'd be useful. Dingdong1232 (talk) 00:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

"At this point, the 3D model for the Demoman was being built and we were preparing to move on. However, there were still some who didn't think he was quite there. A nagging feeling that perhaps the embracing of the archetype was a little to generic. Perhaps a little too much like a groundskeeper in Springfield. We needed a twist to make him more interesting. We didn't want to lose his personality but felt like visually he needed something that broke the cliche. A suggestion was made to have him of African descent and we ran with it." -A Grim Bloody Fable.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 00:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)