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== Updating the taunt pages ==
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So we need to update the class taunt pages that don't have the high-fives. [[User:Shine|Anyone who is good with images]] wanna take a crack at that? If not, I'll work on it this weekend. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 18:07, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Additional kill taunt name ==
  
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In addition to the other kill taunts, the Scorch Shot's kill taunt name is simply listed as "Scorch shot". I think I'll move everything, similarly to the other kill taunts, to the most official name we have for it. Unless the taunt is name directly mentioned somewhere.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 13:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
  
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A question, wouldn't the Sandvich taunt be considered a special taunt, like Oktoberfest? [[User:Justin8|Justin8]] 12:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Issues with the Class taunts pages ==
  
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The first issue is how long they're getting, both when viewing and when editing. This can be minimized, in my opinion, by transferring the voice lines and associated sound effects of special taunts from those pages to the respective taunt pages and leaving only short descriptions of the animations. Would this create an inconsistency with the weapon taunts, which would keep the voice lines and sound effects? Yes, it would, but considering we have taunts with long descriptions like the [[Scout taunts#Burstchester|Burstchester]] and the [[Engineer taunts#Dueling Banjo|Dueling Banjo]], I think it's worth it.
  
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== Amputator's healing taunt ==
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The second issue is finding the taunts when viewing the pages - specially when starting from the articles for all-class special taunts, which just say "For the voice lines and animations of each class, please refer to the respective class taunts pages" with a generic link to [[Taunts#Taunts by class]] and leave the reader to their luck when finding that taunt among the other 6<!--Engineer exclusive--> to 24<!--all class--> special taunts.
  
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Should the Amputator's taunt be classified as a Special Taunt? Given that it has an additional ability very similar to (and definitely more powerful than) the Kritzkrieg's taunt, one would think it would fit right in even though it's visually identical to the Bonesaw/Vitasaw's taunt. -- [[User:KaiserYoshi|KaiserYoshi]] 09:45, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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Although the class taunts pages have anchors for each kill and special taunt, these are currently unused as far as I know. I've created a template that would use them to properly link readers to that taunt in the desired class' taunts page, which can be found [[User:BrazilianNut/Sandbox/Template:All-class_taunt|here]], but it's still a project page and has not been "officialized".
  
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==Videos==
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One solution would be making each special taunt a subsection of the section it can be found in. This, however, would create some very long TOCs while we're trying to ''shorten'' these articles (the Scout alone has 14 unique special taunts + 24 special taunts + the Neck Snap).
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Does anyone really need ''four'' videos to illustrate the exact same set of taunts? [[User:Hostile Companion Cube|Hostile Companion Cube]] <sup>Roar</sup> 05:55, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
 
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:Was about to pull this to attention. This is what the crap wiki does, they have a multitude of videos all of the same thing on the same page. Anyways, the unused guitar taunt is should go on the [[Dischord]] page itself. We should keep if any, one of the high five videos, and get an AA image for the bottle taunt to go on the bottle page. Just an ideal way to fix things. Any other ideas people? -= [[User:M-NINJA|<font color="Blue">'''M-NINJA'''</font>]] [[File:Burger_Gib.png|24px|link=User_talk:M-NINJA]] =- 02:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 
  
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==Possible use of High Five?==
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One thing we could<strike> steal </strike>borrow from [https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page the Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages] is horizontal TOCs, like the one seen on [https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mementos this page] or the one seen on [https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mementos/Events this page] (which I prefer).
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Recently, I was parked in a corner, when a Demoman walks up and taunts. This somehow triggered the high five animations. I'm thinking it's some sort of mod, but if it's not, it may be worth adding.[[User:Gigaspine7|Gigaspine7]] 21:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
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Same here, but I had a high-five when me and Soldier were in front of each other and taunting simultaneously. Have to check on couple of different servers to see if it's a mod or not.
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Opinions? - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 16:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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[[User:Ae jarv|Ae jarv]] 12:50, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
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:It's a sourcemod plugin. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
  
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yep its plugin mode and activating by sm_highfive or !highfive . So nope we cant add this.  
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:With how there is a constant stream of new taunts coming in, it's fine to change how they are treated compared to weapon taunts. I'd be for adding the voice lines and such to the individual articles instead. Finding taunts is (imo) solved by just ctrl + f. I'm not sure I follow the second request, though. We can just use anchors and a semicolon to mimic headers without them being on the TOC.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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[[User:Rins|<span style="color:#0e5c76;font-size:13px;font-family:'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Rins</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">[[File:User_Rins_minioface.png|:O]] ([[User talk:Rins|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Rins|contribs]])</span> 23:02, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 
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Its a sourcemod plugin.[[Advanced Weaponiser uses it but you would have to taunt at the same time.[[User:Awesomesauce|~awesomesauce~]] 23:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Awesomesauce.
 
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:[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRQRL7y5H7Y&feature=feedlik At around 8:25]. "They're still coming, actually. The Portal 2 guys took the code and stole our thunder." [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 21:04, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
 
  
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== Must have ammo? ==
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::I'm not a fan of making readers depend on a function of their web browser (Ctrl + F) that they might not know exists in order to find something when we can have that something in the TOC, but if we transfer the voice lines and sound effects to the individual taunt articles, adding the taunts to the TOC might simply not be needed. As for the semicolon to mimic headers, I think that would be a bit redundant if we're counting on readers using Ctrl + F to find the taunts since each taunt box already has the "Associated item(s)" column that names the taunt. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 17:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
  
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Why to include that? Everyone knows that if you don't have ammo you can't exuip the weapon. Besides you can do the taunt with no ammo. Shoot your last bullet and then quickly press g before the game switches your weapons. There should just be a trivia section explaining that in the bottom of the article. --[[User:SandeProElite|SandeProElite]] 17:14, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
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:::It's an incredibly common feature for finding things in many, many programs. It's as universally recognised as ctrl + c, ctrl + v imo. I do think we should improve the article, but I also think that ctrl + f is a shortcut that almost everyone knows about.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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:Irrelevant, IMO. Besides, that stuff doesn't belong in trivia. It's a game mechanic. [[User:Turboplant|Turboplant]] 18:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 
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== Do we need these videos? ==
 
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Take a look at the videos on the class specific taunt articles (let's use the [[Soldier taunts]] as an example). I suggest that we remove these as the individual taunts are demonstrated on a per-weapon basis and therefore in more depth by the weapon demonstration project. Besides, I think whoever put them on the articles might be farming views as the videos have been made with the Replay system. [[User:I-ghost|i-ghost]] 13:26, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 
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:I agree, they're not needed. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 
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:Same for me, you can delete it. It was only added to farm views. --[[User:Pratolli|Pratolli]] 14:26, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 
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I don't like the high five video. Its 8 minutes long and seeing as the taunts take up all of 4 seconds it seems like a brilliant waste of time . It's just repeated heaps and heaps of times and i think the only way you can get off with that is by providing different angles. Anyway, I think it'd be better if someone remade the video.[[User:Pierow|Pierow]] 06:48, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 
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== Taunt kill names ==
 
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I just want to know where we got the taunt kill names from. Were they fan made, created by the wiki or officially released? [[User:Pierow|Pierow]] 06:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 
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== Hi-five? ==
 
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In the "hi-five" description, it says that all classes except the Engineer have hi-five taunts, but it then says that after the Soldier and Demo got their taunts, Engi got his in the Engi update, followed by the others. So which is it? Can the Engineer Hi-five? [[User:Ericson666|Ericson666]] 17:29, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
 
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:Technically no one can high-five, it's unused content. [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 18:42, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
 
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:: Engineer does have high-five animations (all classes do). [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:43, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
 
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== Class taunt demonstrations ==
 
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I think it's kinda silly that we just have images for taunts on the class taunt pages, like [[Scout taunts]]. Maybe videos or .gif files should replace them? Same for the kill taunt pages, like [[Decapitation]]. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 18:50, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
 
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: {{c|Agree}} It looks like we have one for the laughing taunt and meet the medic taunt, so it looks like something they're working on. However, I agree. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:52, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
 
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I understand why the star of my own show achievement is here but maybe a few other people won't. Just throwing it out there how maybe we should explain somewhere here how the achievement unlocks the Director's vision taunt.
 
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[[User:Footlesssushi|Footlesssushi]] 15:34, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
 

Latest revision as of 17:28, 31 October 2024

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Additional kill taunt name

In addition to the other kill taunts, the Scorch Shot's kill taunt name is simply listed as "Scorch shot". I think I'll move everything, similarly to the other kill taunts, to the most official name we have for it. Unless the taunt is name directly mentioned somewhere.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 13:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Issues with the Class taunts pages

The first issue is how long they're getting, both when viewing and when editing. This can be minimized, in my opinion, by transferring the voice lines and associated sound effects of special taunts from those pages to the respective taunt pages and leaving only short descriptions of the animations. Would this create an inconsistency with the weapon taunts, which would keep the voice lines and sound effects? Yes, it would, but considering we have taunts with long descriptions like the Burstchester and the Dueling Banjo, I think it's worth it.

The second issue is finding the taunts when viewing the pages - specially when starting from the articles for all-class special taunts, which just say "For the voice lines and animations of each class, please refer to the respective class taunts pages" with a generic link to Taunts#Taunts by class and leave the reader to their luck when finding that taunt among the other 6 to 24 special taunts.

Although the class taunts pages have anchors for each kill and special taunt, these are currently unused as far as I know. I've created a template that would use them to properly link readers to that taunt in the desired class' taunts page, which can be found here, but it's still a project page and has not been "officialized".

One solution would be making each special taunt a subsection of the section it can be found in. This, however, would create some very long TOCs while we're trying to shorten these articles (the Scout alone has 14 unique special taunts + 24 special taunts + the Neck Snap).

One thing we could steal borrow from the Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages is horizontal TOCs, like the one seen on this page or the one seen on this page (which I prefer).

Opinions? - BrazilianNut (talk) 16:13, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

With how there is a constant stream of new taunts coming in, it's fine to change how they are treated compared to weapon taunts. I'd be for adding the voice lines and such to the individual articles instead. Finding taunts is (imo) solved by just ctrl + f. I'm not sure I follow the second request, though. We can just use anchors and a semicolon to mimic headers without them being on the TOC.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm not a fan of making readers depend on a function of their web browser (Ctrl + F) that they might not know exists in order to find something when we can have that something in the TOC, but if we transfer the voice lines and sound effects to the individual taunt articles, adding the taunts to the TOC might simply not be needed. As for the semicolon to mimic headers, I think that would be a bit redundant if we're counting on readers using Ctrl + F to find the taunts since each taunt box already has the "Associated item(s)" column that names the taunt. - BrazilianNut (talk) 17:21, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
It's an incredibly common feature for finding things in many, many programs. It's as universally recognised as ctrl + c, ctrl + v imo. I do think we should improve the article, but I also think that ctrl + f is a shortcut that almost everyone knows about.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:28, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
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