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| − | |'''While we don't have strict rules regarding discussion page content, please remember that the Team Fortress Wiki is not a forum. I recommend the [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80 Steam Forums] or your own personal forum of choice for discussing stuff not related to the article itself!''' -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 03:17, 5 July 2010 (UTC) | + | | arc1link = Talk:Golden Wrench/Archive 1 |
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| − | == Moving on == | + | == No mention of the voice lines? == |
| − | That means please focus on the wrench and not tinfoil SPUF theories. Thanks. -- [[User:En Ex|En Ex]] 13:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == A thing about drops+crafting... ==
| + | If a player kills someone else with the Golden Wrench, the engineer will say 1 of 3 voice lines, unique to the Golden Wrench. I noticed this is missing from the page. Shouldn't this have a mention somewhere? [[User:CoolJosh3k|CoolJosh3k]] ([[User talk:CoolJosh3k|talk]]) 14:35, 14 December 2013 (PST) |
| | + | :Lots of items have unique voice lines on kill. It'll be noted on the page for that class' responses.--'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 14:44, 14 December 2013 (PST) |
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| − | I saw this thing about there being a 33%-odd chance of getting the gold wrench by crafting a hat, if so what hats should i craft? [http://www.tf2items.com/id/76561198002412737 backpack.] [[User:OllyTheMann|OllyTheMann]] 15:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
| + | == About Golden Wrench and Australium Wrench == |
| − | : Not going to craft pyro hats though. [[User:OllyTheMann|OllyTheMann]] 15:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Read the note directly above this. Whoever said that is bullshiting you. Don't craft your hats. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 15:16, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::33% is low. Believe me. Hundreds of crafting in Mabinogi with a 50%-odd chance of success, and the longest failure streak I had was about 10 times or so. Yet, 33% is considerably too high. 75 wrenches, and how many TF2 players are crafting right now? Good friggin' luck. [[User:Vi3trice|Vi3trice]] 15:24, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Wrench 27 has been Destroyed ==
| + | Should we add "Not to be confused with [[Wrench|Australium Wrench]]" to the page? There is no Australium Wrech page, as the Australium variant is shown on the Gallery of the Wrench page. [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 21:22, 7 May 2014 (PDT) |
| − | the first wrench to be destroyed was by the user "gongtk" moments ago, should it be mentioned that the administrator says "failure" and such in the announcement. [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]]
| + | :If you try to search Australium Wrench, it goes to the Wrench page. And if they actually got this mixed up with the Australium one... well they may have issues. I don't see why we would need to honestly. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 21:51, 7 May 2014 (PDT) |
| − | : It's already on the page! You underestimate the fanaticism of those who edit this Wiki! --[[User:Firestorm|<font color=#FF6600><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></font>]] 18:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
| + | :: I don't even know why valve made the Australium Wrench in the first place. But thanks for the reply. [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 07:18, 8 May 2014 (PDT) |
| − | ::oh damn it, sorry about that some folk are just quicker than me huh? [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]]
| + | ::: P.S.: Shouldn't the info box have the "| item-flags" for (Not Tradable)? I know it's already mentioning above its tradabillity, but the [[Saxxy]] has the (Not Tradable) on the Loadout Stats. [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 07:20, 8 May 2014 (PDT) |
| − | ::: Oh yes, they are. But it's better to post on the talk page than on the main page if you're unsure so you don't mess up (hint HINT, [[User:Smashman|Smashman]]) --[[User:Firestorm|<font color=#FF6600><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></font>]] 18:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
| + | :::: Fixed it. And I'd say it's because that's the Engi's signature weapon which isn't a building. Stock reskin variants (Festive, Botkiller, and now Aussie) seem to be based on classes' signature weapons. But that's just my rationalisation. - [[User:Davo|<span style="color:#172911;font-size:14px"><b>Davo</b></span>]] ([[User_talk:Davo|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Davo|Contribs]]) 07:24, 8 May 2014 (PDT) |
| − | | + | :::::Thank you for the fix :-) [[User:Gabrielwoj|Gabrielwoj]] ([[User talk:Gabrielwoj|talk]]) 19:30, 8 May 2014 (PDT) |
| − | == Locked? and Gokt real username ==
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| − | is It me or the Page is locked? and gokt real username is [FAG]Grantz, '-' [[User:Danisson|-Danisson]] 19:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Page is locked, I've added the box for it, thanks — [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] 19:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::I locked it. At the time of deletion his name was gonkt. It's staying. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 19:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: We locked it because there were too many people adding speculation and rumors to the page --[[User:Firestorm|<font color=#FF6600><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></font>]] 20:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC) | |
| − | ::::I think it is time to change the gokt to Grantz since he got his account and GW back? [[User:Danisson|-Danisson]] 21:40, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Corrections ==
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| − | I've noticed a slight grammatical error, and since the page is locked I cannot correct it. So, I've created this new section for the purpose of allowing us good-willed contributors to point out and indirectly correct any errors or mis-information.--[[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 20:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :<strike>Grammatical error in Trivia leading, ''The first Golden Wrench owner to destroy his Wrench'': <code>...a Valve employee has said he look into it...</code>; should be: <code>...a Valve employee has said he will look into it...</code></strike>--[[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 20:06, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::My bad. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 20:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: "When the Sniper is turned to gold, his statue will remain upright whereas all the other classes fall over. This once again, shows Team Fortress 2's disproportionate models. " Needs rewording in my opinion. Sounds way too matter-of-fact, when Iʻve seen other classes remain stood up (Engineer, Spy etc). In all honesty, if it was changed to something like "Sniper has more CHANCE" instead, it still seems like it isnʻt needed. [[User:Benjamuffin|Benjamuffin]] 20:58, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Better? :o — [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] 21:04, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::: Yup, and I take back what I said, looking at it how it is now, it fits nicely :). [[User:Benjamuffin|Benjamuffin]] 21:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Golden Wrench and Dead Ringer ==
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| − | If a spy get hit with the Golden Wrench and he has the DR out, he survives and can see a death notice in the upper right corner. Maybe thats something for the Trivia section. [[User:Picard|Picard]] 21:14, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :That happens anyway from the perspective of the killer, no matter what weapon. --[[User:RJackson|RJackson]] 21:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Do you mean that the Spy who was "killed" can see the Death notice? [[User:The Neotank|The Neotank]] 21:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: I believe he's talking about the SPY seeing the message, he normally doesn't. Confirmed? --[[User:Firestorm|<font color=#FF6600><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></font>]] 21:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::: Yes, the spy sees the death message, too. Thats what I wanted to say.[[User:Picard|Picard]] 21:39, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Wrench replacements? ==
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| − | 3 Golden Wrenches have been removed, including Drunken f00l's, they've been replaced by 3 (Now 4) other Wrenches. This shifted Wrench numbers for everyone who received a GW after the three removed Wrenches. (Puttin' this here because it's not really relevant to the article.) [[User:The Neotank|The Neotank]] 21:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Nah it didn't. They just slotted them in, so the new users got old numbers. What a joke of an idea VALVe. gg --[[User:DogGunn|DogGunn]] 23:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Controversy ==
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| − | A lot of claims are being made in this section that has no references or any links to back up what it says [[User:Kekeke01|Kekeke01]] 09:44, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: While I canʻt say it all has references, I can vouch for it all being legitimate and true. Itʻs been on the SourceOP forum/site, the steam forums with posts by moderators etc. Itʻs all pretty much solid and old news now. [[User:Benjamuffin|Benjamuffin]] 09:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::I got it from DF himself. Seems like a good enough reference to me. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 09:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Its true there are screen dumps of DF's chat about it a you tube vid from DF if you want links ill provide them just message on my talk page as said before this is not a forum --[[User:Markd|Markd]] 10:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::: Spare me the "this is not a forum". I know this is not a forum, no need to repeat it over and over again. My post was wiki related and not of a forum character, all I said was that anyone reading the claims have no way to verify them for themselves, a central part of any wiki. [[User:Kekeke01|Kekeke01]] 10:26, 8 July 2010 (UTC) | |
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| − | == Golden Wrench After Player is Killed ==
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| − | When I tried to take a screenshot of someone holding the Golden Wrench, they happened to get Direct Hit'd and I was left with this picture:
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| − | So I geuss this means that after a player is killed, the wrench becomes a regular wrench, not gold. [[User:Tendog|Tendog]] 18:51, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Probably the same bug the sticky launcher has, where it switches skins after the player dies (gets the Scottish Resistance texture) -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:Duck Gib.png|12px]] 18:55, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Golden statues upon being killed with the Gunslinger as well, with server mods ==
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| − | I've used the Sourcemod plugin thing to give myself a Gunslinger that can punch people into golden statues. While it is true that most weapons can't turn people into gold even if they have the attribute, the Wrench - in its three incarnations - all function the same with some minor adjustments (say, if the Wrench's attribute is "can build mini sentries" then the model simply changes to the Gunslinger one). Do I need to make a video of this or is this info OK just like that? --[[User:NearNihil|NearNihil]] 22:33, 23 July 2010 (UTC) | |
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| − | If its a server mod, then thats fine. People who join the server, will have to rejoin to have the abilities again. --[[User:CWalkthroughs|CWalkthroughs]]10:47 07 August 2010 (GMT)
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| − | == Golden Charity event ==
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| − | Added a new section for the Golden Charity event including information about the event itself.
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| − | Thanks so much for posting this! I think it's really helping to drive awareness of the event!
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| − | Just a note that you may want to mention that 4 additional GW owners have agreed to join the cause:
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| − | * Wrench #14 will be destroyed by [cFc] Yagami Light
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| − | * Wrench #82 will be destroyed by [dahou.se] GinaShark
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| − | * Wrench #22 will be destroyed by Captain Jack (UC)
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| − | * A 4th GW owner who is as of yet unannounced will join once enough donations are made
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| − | [[User:WiNGSPANTT|WiNGSPANTT]] 05:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : The charity event has been removed from the article. We are happy to give you exposure on the main page, but the mention on this page is not directly relevant to the Golden Wrench. You have a website for promoting your cause. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 20:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: I'm sorry, but isn't the fact that the TF2 community has donated over $5000 to charity thanks to this weapon worth at least a mention? Maybe not in the detail it was before, but even just a single sentence? There are far more trivial things on this Wiki than that. [[User:TheCarpe|TheCarpe]] 00:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC) | |
| − | ::: It would have to be formatted like you've said, a single sentence mentioning the fact for the sake of posterity more than anything else. The way it was written earlier made it come off as an advertisement, which is not what a weapon page is for. I'd personally prefer to wait until after the event has concluded before inserting any information regarding it onto this page. Basically, don't worry, something will get written up. Just have patience, please. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 00:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC) | |
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| − | == New article ==
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| − | I really feel that we should have a separate article for this event, as it's getting larger, and I'd prefer the weapon page to focus on the weapon. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 22:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I think it's fine as it is. There's just the mere fact that there's a lot to know about this weapon. The page for that is [[Engineer Update|here]] --[[User:ANormalUsername|<span style="text-shadow:green 0px 0px 3px;">A</span><span style="text-shadow:blue 0px 0px 3px;">Normal</span><span style="text-shadow:red 0px 0px 3px;">Username</span>]] 20:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | *I believe En Ex is talking about the golden charity having it's own page, which is a good idea because this page is crowded enough as it is, and we don't want a charitable cause going unmentioned either.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 22:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Yeah, still figurin' how that's gonna work. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 00:58, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::So... Who gonna makes the article? -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 00:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::As in, not sure now if we're gonna have one. Still workin' on it. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 01:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == New skin? ==
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| − | I was playing around with a custom items_game.txt, for playing with the Golden Wrench. And when equipped, i got that:
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| − | http://www.hapshack.com/images/gw1.png
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| − | It's a new skin? In all ways it's very odd.--[[User:SLBros|SLBros]] 03:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | It's not new per se, they changed the VMT file so that it refers to the normal wrench as the base texture. Fiddle around (change one line) so that it refers to the gold_wrench texture in c_items and you get this:
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| − | http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/Vi3trice/ctf_2fort0011.jpg
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| − | -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 04:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :It is a new skin. They added it after the Engineer Update. Looks horrid. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]]{{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 13:04, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | No wonder people are destroying their wrenches for charity!--[[User:Nelson340|Nelson340]] 23:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==The Golden Wrench confirmed made of Australium==
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| − | Quote from the blog regarding the charity event: "Somehow these few have found the strength of will to reject the lure of Australium to serve a greater cause." I guess it can stop being speculated now.
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| − | :Hello. Please put new discussions at the bottom of the talk page, and please sign your comments by putting <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of them. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 04:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Golden Wrench 11 Destroyed ==
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| − | I was playing some tf2 with my clan, and suddenly, Golden wrench number 10 was destroyed, I didn't have time to take a screenshot, But it did happen. (EDIT: I forgot the number and a friend said it was 11, he just told me it was 10) When in doubt, get a hat. 23:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC) Dat Random Guy 12/08/2010 When in doubt, get a hat. 23:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Wrench 10, not 11. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 23:03, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Shouldn't this be on the page? It's confirmed, I checked TF2items. Supposedly he was tricked into deleting it, but that is speculation. --[[User:Nbduckman|Nbduckman]] 09:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Please add this tool i created to see if someone has a golden wrench and who. ==
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| − | <script src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/pps/listbadge_1.4.js">{"pipe_id":"a9cb75db5842fc7e5e7974855e9cbd1b","_btype":"list","pipe_params":{"SteamID":"76561197960465781"}}</script>
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| − | this is the tool with steam community id [[http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197960465781/ 76561197960465781]] input into it, the full tool is available at:
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| − | [[http://pipes.yahoo.com/steamapi/isthatagoldenwrenchisee http://pipes.yahoo.com/steamapi/isthatagoldenwrenchisee]]
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| − | --[[User:ILOVEPIE|ILOVEPIE]] 01:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :What is this, I don't even. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 01:04, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Thanks, but no thanks. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 01:04, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::[http://www.tf2items.com/lists/golden_wrenches/ No thanks.] -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 02:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Category ==
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| − | Please add [[:Category:Limited items]]. Also, does this page still need to be locked? --[[User:STUART|STUART]] 19:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :When the charity event is completely over, the page will be unlocked. Thank you for adding the new categories, by the way. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 19:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC) | |
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| − | == Deletion Notices ==
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| − | Hey guys, just wondering. I have 9 of the 12 notices cropped from the Golden Charity event. Does this page want them, for any necessary reason? -- [[User:CWalkthroughs|CWalkthroughs]]
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| − | :No, but thanks anyway. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 17:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Actually, are they PNG? -[[User:Shine|<font color="#666666">'''Shine'''</font>]] ({{mod}}) 17:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Yes, but quality wise. Well, not too bad? - [[User:CWalkthroughs|CWalkthroughs]]
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| − | ::::Well, if they're higher quality, go ahead and upload one over our current version. -[[User:Shine|<font color="#666666">'''Shine'''</font>]] ({{mod}}) 17:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::I'm currently away from my laptop, which has the images on them, I shall make a .zip and post them here sometime tomorrow. -- [[User:CWalkthroughs|CWalkthroughs]],20:11(BST) 3rd Sept 2010
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| − | ==Charity==
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| − | How is it any less notable than the controversy section? -[[User:Shine|<font color="#666666">'''Shine'''</font>]] ({{mod}}) 18:44, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Yeah, why wouldn't we note the charity? --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 18:48, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Perhaps we should remove the controversy section, then. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 19:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Or better yet move all that stuff to another page. Add a ''See also: Golden Wrench controversy'' or something.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] 20:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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