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| − | ==At least some of the new items can be found through the drop system==
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| − | I'm not sure what level of proof we need on this. But I know at least one, the Bushwacka for instance, was randomly dropped to me. Edits are locked on the template for whatever reason. [[User:Mdawgmike|Mdawgmike]] 07:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Could the word "Craft" be more appropriate than "Drop" in the sub-row? After all, all the unlockables are also obtainable by random drop, while the others (Pain Train, Homewrecker, etc.) can be crafted with a specific blueprint.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 07:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Perhaps Craft/Drop -[[User:Firestorm|<font color=#FF6600><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></font>]] 07:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Makes it clearer, the ''Drop'' term is just what I made up when I ran roughshod over the template one night as well as all the weapon pages. --[[User:Org|Org]] 12:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Is it possible to make the chart a little cleaner? It's hard to distinguish what is an unlock, and what are drops/crafted. Perhaps alternating highlighted lines? The demoman's section, for example, is not easy to distinguish. --[[User:ManaTree|ManaTree]] 02:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Golden Wrench ==
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| − | [[Golden Wrench]] should be in "special" section, not "promotion". --[[User:SandeProElite|SandeProElite]] 21:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : It was promoting the Engineer update -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::''Promotion'' in the sense that it was given as a gift to promote the purchasing of a different product, like Bill's Hat for L4D2 and the Sam and Max weapons. I'll fix it up. [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:15, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: I understood the terminology. I wouldn't be a member of any wiki if I couldn't grasp such a thing. I was simply thinking of practicality. Regardless of the intention of the category, the Golden Wrench fits fine given the reason above. There's no need for a whole new category. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I wasn't criticising you, it's just promoting the Engineer update seemed like a bit of a stretch with the term promotion. I went ahead and changed it anyway as it really is only minor. If there is a promotional melee weapon coming out then we'll just change it back. No hassle :) [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Ah I didn't mean to come across harsh in any way so I apologize if it did. Fair enough on the choice, but to further poke a dead horse as it were, I thought this might help:
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| − | "Promotion keeps the product in the minds of the customer and helps stimulate demand for the product. Promotion involves ongoing advertising and publicity" -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Also I owe you a smile. :) -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::lol k. [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Unlock/Drop distinction intentional ==
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| − | I think we discussed previously that you don't "unlock" community made weapons therefore they get their own distinction as "drop" weapons. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 22:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :"Unlock" meaning through random drops, or through achievements, because it can work both ways. Distinguishing between weapons that can be unlocked through the latter seems unnecessary to me. It seems better to just keep all non-standard weapons together. Agree / disagree? [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::We've discussed this at length before. The consensus was to distinguish between them. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 22:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Yep, it's been discussed a lot before
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| − | :::*Unlock = Can be unlocked through achievements, dropped or crafted.
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| − | :::*Drop = Cannot be unlocked through achievements and must be either found or crafted. --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 00:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == "Craft" rather than "Drop" redux ==
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| − | Since it looks like the [[Weapons]] page, and the individual weapon pages have had the term 'Drop' changed to 'Craft', should this template be updated as well? --[[User:Org|Org]] 05:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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