Talk:Market Gardener

Advanced Weaponiser

This weapon is a lot similar to the Advanced Weaponiser weapon Maraudor's Mace; Both crit during a Rocket Jump. The only difference is that the Maraudor's Mace also does it 2 seconds after, and has alternative downsides. I reckon it's worth a mention in the trivia. Mecha the Slag 14:38, 23 June 2011 (PDT)

They mention the fact the Back Scratcher is from the Advanced Weaponiser too, so I guess it would count as trivia. Just a Gigolo - (talk) 13:24, 28 June 2011 (PDT)

name reference

Considering the World War theme for Day 3 I think the name of this weapon might be related to "Operation Market Garden", the largest airborne operation at that time. Thoughts? SkillerBehindYou 17:38, 22 June 2011 (PDT)

• Sounds pretty darn likely. Considering this shovel was advertised as a garden shovel in the Polycount Set it was in, it probably refers to it. Fyahweather 17:41, 22 June 2011 (PDT)
  • why do we have the trivia for market garden for restaurants? i don't see how it's a reference.--FactCore 04:24, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
    • Well, Operation Market Garden was named after the phrase "Market Garden", but I think you're right, it seems a bit pointless to describe that - kind of like X of Y trivia. The shovel is obviously named after the operation, not the area of land called a Market Garden. » Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 18:00, 27 July 2011 (PDT)

Exact time for crits?

i read the article and noticed it said "deals crits wile the weilder is rocket jumping, and shortly after he lands" i did some tests on this, and it seems that the second part of that is untrue, it only deals crits wile your airborne(rocket jumping), not shortly after that. i am almost certain that this is the case, but i may be incorrect, as it may for some reason only be me and my computer.Firehazard42 18:16, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

The "shortly after" is a time frame of maybe half a second, so it's really easy to miss. --Digifreek 20:31, 28 July 2012 (PDT)

If you post without looking at the last post date again, we have somethings to talk. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 20:55, 28 July 2012 (PDT)

Older Picture

In the Trivia it talks about how it's appearance changed. There is a picture of the old one on the Polycount website linked here:http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73188 --Magnum Force-Enforcer 13:11, 26 March 2012 (PDT)

A picture of the actual shovel?

Maybe a picture of the actual shovel would add more content Canucka 14:21, 14 May 2013 (PDT)

Bug or not?

Here, if you keep your momentum by jumping after landing the rocket jump, you can still crit with Market Gardener. Is this a bug or not? Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 17:21, 22 August 2013 (PDT)

I added it to the page, but the sentence structure I used seems off. I would have to assume it's a bug since A: The timing is way too exact to be a mechanic and B: The lack of this mentioned in patch notes indicates it's been there since the item was made.

— The preceding unsigned comment was added by KazooieBanjo (talk) • (contribs)

Should this go under triva?

The fact you can kill more then one person with the market gardener in a rocket jump, not using a bug. Most people most likey don't know this. Source Princess Cherry (talk) 07:47, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

I don't think it's noteworthy or even a bug. The description just says "Deals crits while the wielder is rocket jumping". There's no limitation of kills while doing the rocket jump.

~{ TidB | t | c }~ 07:54, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

True but its not often that a common player will have seen it or have done it in game. Princess Cherry (talk) 09:13, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

Even so, its not noteworthy. The amount of luck and or skill required to do a double kill with X weapon does not make it trivia. Ashes (talk) 10:20, 3 May 2014 (PDT)

For demoman

I think this should be for Demoman, Cause he can Sticky jump and that is considered blast jumping. And i also think the Gunboats should also be for Demoman. Asome3333e1 (talk) 14:27, 12 February 2016 (PST)