User talk:Hinaomi

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Edit warring over Black Rose and other articles

I don't want to keep seeing this, you and and MLGM need to duke it out over a talk page instead of the main articles themselves. If there isn't something you agree on come to a compromise. -- Lagg 22:03, 20 May 2012 (PDT)

It's not warring. I think the region block is trivia, he think not. so I asked him why remove, he said It isn't trivia. Then I moved it to Notes section, and he edited some grammar.

In another class page, I talked with him so I keep only In-game Tips, and he can edit anything.

That's all. Hinaomi 01:19, 21 May 2012 (PDT)

Okay, then how about I say it this way: Don't be immediately hostile about it next time. If you undo someone's edit and they aren't happy about it and try to revert it. Instead of undoing it yet again, try talking to them on their talk page and if they aren't reasonable get the help of a staff member. -- Lagg 08:40, 21 May 2012 (PDT)

It was just a series of edits. The Black Rose seems to be done for now, so he nor I won't be touching it for the time being. Just to get this out of the way though.. is the region section trivia, or notes? - MLGM 06:23, 21 May 2012 (PDT)

Putting here for posterity. It isn't trivia but it should be remembered for when the bug is fixed and edited appropriately. -- Lagg 08:40, 21 May 2012 (PDT)

Signature image

The killicon in your signature is a tad too big and messes up the line spacing between comments. It should be no more than 19px tall, see here. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 04:58, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Ok I'll change to Another one :) Hinaomi 05:58, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Ok now? Hinaomi 06:14, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Iz good =) though you could have used the same one, just a bit smaller XD » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 07:47, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

It's too small, that why I change to another one XD Hinaomi 07:48, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Can I please get the full sized image of that pic?! LiquidFire 06:15, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Why? O_O Hinaomi 06:16, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

I want to see how she looks LiquidFire 06:21, 25 May 2012 (PDT) and if she's hot :3

Here you go : http://www.zerochan.net/641985 Hinaomi 06:24, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Thank you very much :D LiquidFire 06:25, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Bug undo

I see why you undid that bug now. My mistake. Could you quickly take a look at the bug I have mentioned in the Point and Shoot discussion and see if you think it is worth mentioning? Taser9001 14:22, 28 May 2012 (PDT)

I think no, because this bug was previously on Aperture Labs Hard Hat and Killer Exclusive page. And now those page don't have this bug. I think it's Disguise Kit bug more than Point and Shoot bug. Hinaomi 16:54, 28 May 2012 (PDT)

Edits

Why in the world did you remove my edit? The contribution page had the approved tag. 14:15, 11 June 2012 (PDT)

Damn, I was move style templete to over update history. I didn't remove it. I think it was a mistake by wiki. Hinaomi 17:57, 11 June 2012 (PDT)

Thanks for all

Written under the inspiration that the free will and the free word are applied to everything on the wiki
As you maybe saw my nomination was revoked but fear not there is a worthy reason for it. My translations are not very bad, but still bad. My grammar is to much orientated onto the english one and still sucks.
So i just wanted to inform you, and all other backers that i liked your text which you wrote about but still it's without a meaning.
As an compensation for my harsh words i allow you to see my nomination discussion which was revoked.

Your log password is kyfkgys3hib739
You can check your logs at http://irc.biringa.com/access-log/?c=tfwiki-cap&s=TheDoctor
using the password above and the date 2012-06-17

May it help you to understand that when all 22 moderator discuss about a nomination that you only need to persuade the important moderators which have the right timezone, and still are active.

I move on and leave the wiki because i think no one cares about the "weaker" languages, and my suggestions and cries for help on my language are used as a sign of pestering against me. The long waits between nominations and the discussions and the denial of my opinions to make it better, made it clear to me that there is only one step to make the wiki more efficient and i mean not my grammar skill. I would like to have half of the wiki staff replaced with more active and more dedicated persons. Or even better no moderator at all and a general overlooking rule by all editors, the people. (i was the lonely overlooker in german...)
But as i know that this is not happening, and i'm not dedicated(<funny word) enough, the best is to stop my drone work and dont pester around anymore. I have no right to speak bad and upset anyone, but i can at least express to you what i'm doing and why i'm doing it.
You maybe think that this is a cheap and it is indeed cheap, but i think if you have one right, then it is the right to express your feelings and your reasoning to a person which back'ed you up. So at last i give you a great tipp: You should always consider: FreeXMan as your friend, he is an awesomely nice guy, and also Epic_Eric of course. The rest of the moderators are still an unwritten book to me, but with the right key you can unlock them maybe, i never got into these people's head.

So i wish you the best for the future on the wiki, but for me the wiki has died. Goodbye TheDoctor 18:08, 17 June 2012 (PDT)

ARG

Don't move it again, it's separate from the resulting update. rZ 08:59, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Ok Hinaomi 09:00, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

SEROZVEZD

Don't be so hard on him, especially if you're talking about "non-sense"; to say it simply, practice what you preach. He was only trying to improve the pages, and telling him that what he added is nonsense is both untrue and hurtful. Please be mindful of what you say. rZ 10:46, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Another didn't do that before, and I didn't see the point about his edit. So if you think it makes him hurtful, I'll unwatch some edit and let people do anything they want next time. Hinaomi 10:52, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

You obviously don't understand my point. Next time, Template:W, and don't have personal outbursts against editors. rZ 10:54, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Umm, but still think his edit is non-sense. Anyway, I'll remove some bad word in that talk. Hinaomi 10:56, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

For the love of everything that is good and well stop saying "non-sense". It's not a word and nobody understands what you mean. The edit was fine and was in good faith, calling it nonsense assumes bad faith. rZ 10:58, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

 Done remove those bad word. And I don't have much time for now (Need to do homework) Hinaomi 11:00, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Stop reverting pages based on your personal opinion #2

I would like to join my fellow wikians to ask you to stop making reverts based on your opinion. I reported a serious bug with the dead ringer that breaks DR gameplay and you decide to revert it without comment or discussion. We are on the same team here --Wennerj 11:01, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

So that's "really" need to "have a new section"? And I think it isn't bug, but it's mechanic.

And next time, don't use same topic as old topic. Please create the new one. Hinaomi 11:14, 3 July 2012 (PDT)

Kill taunt

Can you please explain why you the words you are removing describing kill taunts are unnecessary? Thanks. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:26, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Because I want to make same at all page. So make it simple is easier. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 03:28, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Including the word "kill" is important. You are forcing the reader to click the link to understand that the taunt can kill people. By making it "consistent" you are making it make less sense. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:32, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I'll re-add "kill" after "taunt" later. Anyway, thanks for response. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 03:33, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Please stop making the edits until we finish discussing it. The change you just made to Eyelander is incorrect too. "Taunt kill" is not as correct as "kill taunt". The latter makes it more clear that the taunt does not always kill. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:36, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Your change to Rainblower removes important information about the effects of the taunt in and out of Pyroland. Stop making changes that "improve consistency" that also remove important information. -- Pilk ^(talk) 03:38, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Alright, I'll revert my edits back and start again. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 03:42, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Hostility

Regardless of whether you are right or wrong, stop being so hostile.

There are better ways to say "are your eyes nearly close?" Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 09:40, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Fast type, but still same meaning. Just grammar wrong. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 09:41, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

He is not talking about your English, he was talking about how hostile you were being. Stop being hostile. I'm not asking you to, I'm telling you to. rZ 09:43, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I was answer second question, Rz.

And about hostile, if he didn't edit like this, this and this. So I think he should read guideline first. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 09:46, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

1. Read The Goonies on Wikipedia. First three words are an explanation. Also, no offense, but I don't know if you should be going on me about correcting grammar. 2. There was nothing wrong with that edit. 3. That was my mistake. It doesn't matter which question you were answering, neither of them referenced your English. I am only asking you to not be so hostile. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 09:53, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Just because he makes edits that you believe are incorrect doesn't mean he's less of a human being than you are. Treat others with respect. This is the second time I've told you to assume good faith. Don't push a third time. rZ 09:56, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

I'm not good at English because Thai is my mother language, not English. Sorry for my bad, and sometimes I don't know what word should need to use. Please understand. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 10:01, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Unintended hostility is still hostility. If you are aware of a problem you should try your best to fix it. Taking a break while you learn more English is a good solution. rZ 10:03, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Sorry, but can't. I don't have enough time to do like that because my reason about family. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 10:06, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Hi Hinaomi. While your efforts to patrol edits are appreciated, it's been noticed that some of your undo summaries come off as a little bit hostile. I understand that English isn't your mother tongue, so I think it's best if you generally avoid making comments in the undo summary. Instead, I suggest you simply put a link to the style guide or trivia guidelines or whatever else may be appropriate to the edit. That way, we can avoid any miscommunication. Thanks. i-ghost 10:09, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Thanks for the solution. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 10:10, 10 July 2012 (PDT)

Link

Where did Valve say the Holy Mackerel is a unique weapon? o_o Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 10:55, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

I saw on Balladofwindfishes's reason, ask him is better than ask me. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 11:29, 11 July 2012 (PDT)

Bazooka

Hi. Why you deleted my edit? 99% of weapons have fixed level so its interesting to add info about the levels. --Genuine GAL 04:53, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

If it still exist in that page, Lollichop, Unarmed Combat and Wanga Prick should have that too. But they didn't because they were remove before. That's why I removed it. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 05:42, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

Wow! I didnt know that UC and WP has random levels too! SO! Thats why we must add this to trivia (or another section) for all of those 4 weapons. Ill do it ok? --Genuine GAL 06:43, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

I said "they were remove before". Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 07:10, 13 July 2012 (PDT)

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Unarmed Combat

Hey use to read first my edit. --Genuine GAL 14:59, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

That was there and got removed before, that's why I remove Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 16:31, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

What? Look at Wingstick! --Genuine GAL 21:05, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

Also it fit the trivia guidelines. Like the Wingstick. Stop delete now. --Genuine GAL 21:06, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

Both of you stop. I saw the recent changes page, and it's clearly an edit war. Talk it out on IRC or something and come to a compromise. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 23:15, 14 July 2012 (PDT)

This same as your edit and was removed before. And for Mr. Vinderack, It's not a bug (not removed by me) so I'll remove this anyway and on Wingstick page too. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 00:50, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

Hey what are you doing????? Stop it! Why this is not a bug? Move it to trivia then. Alos its is interesting information so it fits the trivia guidelines. Stop it i say again. --Genuine GAL 05:46, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

Now rZ change the infobox to fit not show level now. If I see you add it again, remove anyway. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:17, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

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Not showing levels as a bug

Hi, I know this discussion was ended one block up, but I re-added all of them and I'd like to explain why they are bugs. The reason the levels don't show up is because they are missing the description strings in tf_english. The items are properly set up for the levels to appear in the schema, but are missing strings. As with the Backwards Ballcap and Texas Half Pants, missing strings are very much bugs, and need to be listed. The game is trying to show the levels, not seeing a proper localization for them, and then just forgetting it. Thanks! Balladofwindfishes 17:37, 22 July 2012 (PDT)

If you have source like this, you can add and I'll forget about missing level. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 20:38, 22 July 2012 (PDT)

Unnecessary edits

Hinaomi, you are repeatedly making unnecessary changes. These changes are made worse because you are not an advanced enough English speaker to understand the different phrasing and word order in some sentences. I understand you are just trying to help but please try to avoid these needless changes. -- Pilk ^(talk) 07:01, 23 July 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, I'll careful about that. But sometimes those fault weren't from me, please do not think I'm only person who create fault. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 07:07, 23 July 2012 (PDT)

Hey

Why did you delete the gunslinger when I typed it in the wrenches section of "See also"? The gunslinger is literally a wrench since you can build dispensers, sentries, teleporter entries and exits. In my opinion the Gunslinger qualifies as a wrench, so you should leave it alone after I re-enter it. TheKitchenEditor 07:41, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Mechanic hand doesn't same as Wrench. I use animations, models, point to use, etc. to judge what weapon need to include in see also. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 07:43, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Oh look, AGAIN. You know the Cow Mangler qualifies as a rocket launcher considering that it's huge and bulky plus that it shoots projectiles? You can rocket jump with it, you can shoot projectiles with it, so I have no idea what the Cow Mangler 5000 can't do what the Rocket launcher can do. TheKitchenEditor 08:00, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Laser =/= Rocket Launcher and its shape isn't look like Rocket Launcher, unique reload animation, have charge shot ability. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:03, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Well its Soldier's primary weapon, and in his primary slot he wields Rocket Launchers. I personally think the Cow Mangler 5000 is a rocket launcher. Sure, it is different from his usual rocket launchers but still... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheKitchenEditor (talk) • (contributions)

It has charge shot alt-fire, also concept different from another Rocket Launcher (Retro Future, not like another one) Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:23, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Well, many players consider the Cow mangler 5000 a Rocket Launcher. Just go ahead and type it on youtube, google, or your average search engine. I know a lot of people who call it a rocket launcher and I've rarely even heard of anyone calling it a lazer gun. Sure, it is a lazer gun but it resembles features of your average rocket launcher such as rocket jumping, shooting projectiles and plus damaging the enemy. The closest thing to a lazer gun is the Righteous Bison because it "Ricochets" through the enemy. TheKitchenEditor 08:31, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Youtube isn't the best to find source and also its mechanic doesn't have any same as rocket launcher. (unique reload, unlimited ammo, firing laser, alt-fir ability, concept) These all aren't enough? If you will said "Why Beggar's Bazooga include in See Also?", because it fires Rocket and its shape look close Rocket Launcher more than Cow Mangler 5000. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 08:35, 27 July 2012 (PDT)

Unused versus Bug sounds for Original and Machina

The reloading sounds are set up to work for both the Original and Machina. They're only unused in the sense they don't actually work. Both are set up properly (or... well I guess not properly, but they made a good attempt), they just don't work for whatever reason. This makes them a bug, rather than unused content. Balladofwindfishes 09:53, 1 August 2012 (PDT)

ok, I thought those sound don't work because valve didn't add it. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 16:31, 1 August 2012 (PDT)

Huo Long Heatmaker Trivia

Hi, I see you are removing the underwater trivia, may I ask you why? I just did a screenshot though. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Frozen_Fire_The_Elementalist/screenshot/577837481867017314 Frozen Fire 06:30, 4 August 2012 (PDT)