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:{{c|Nope}} I really want this to be It's own article, like other entities created via the Create_Entity console command. [[User:Superprototype|Super Prototype... not so super.]] 08:41, 15 April 2013 (PDT) | :{{c|Nope}} I really want this to be It's own article, like other entities created via the Create_Entity console command. [[User:Superprototype|Super Prototype... not so super.]] 08:41, 15 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
:{{c|Support}} I'm having mixed feelings about this. While they don't technically behave like regular bots we could make the argument that anything that's not a player is a "bot". I say merge it with [[Bots]] but make the distinction that they behave differently. That being said, I don't think the bot cvars do affect them, at least from my research they don't. I could be wrong here. [[User:Pumodi|Pumodi]] 03:16, 22 April 2013 (PDT) | :{{c|Support}} I'm having mixed feelings about this. While they don't technically behave like regular bots we could make the argument that anything that's not a player is a "bot". I say merge it with [[Bots]] but make the distinction that they behave differently. That being said, I don't think the bot cvars do affect them, at least from my research they don't. I could be wrong here. [[User:Pumodi|Pumodi]] 03:16, 22 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
| + | :{{c|Support}} The two topics are similar enough to be on the same page. I don't see what would be lost in merging them. Ratermat, if Valve won't give us more info, wouldn't it be better to be merged rather than have a low quality page that can't be improved? [[File:Demoman_emblem_RED_beta2.png|30px|link=User:DemoMedic]][[File:Medic_emblem_BLU.png|30px|link=User:DemoMedic]]<sub> [[User_talk:DemoMedic|"Thanks, Doc!"]]</sub> 18:22, 11 May 2013 (PDT) | ||
==Entity Testing== | ==Entity Testing== | ||
I've been doing some testing with the zombie entity and discovered some interesting things. One, filters (like team and weapon slot) can be applied to them in hammer with 'damagefilter' key manually. Two, they have a tendency to damage each other in groups (This can be prevented with a filter_multi that has red and blue team filters on it and is set to 'OR'). Three, they will not attack players in nav areas connected to re-spawn rooms though they may walk though said nav areas to get to players outside of those navs. Four, their skin number cannot be changed. Even if you use commands or map editing the zombie will change it's skin back to 'blue zombie' each time. Five, the reason they have missing bits when killed is because those bits are the sub models used for voodoo souls and the sub models are killed when the zombie ragdolls. That's all I got for now. Hope Valve will fix them for next Halloween.--[[User:Mzullos5|Mzullos5]] 13:26, 17 April 2013 (PDT) | I've been doing some testing with the zombie entity and discovered some interesting things. One, filters (like team and weapon slot) can be applied to them in hammer with 'damagefilter' key manually. Two, they have a tendency to damage each other in groups (This can be prevented with a filter_multi that has red and blue team filters on it and is set to 'OR'). Three, they will not attack players in nav areas connected to re-spawn rooms though they may walk though said nav areas to get to players outside of those navs. Four, their skin number cannot be changed. Even if you use commands or map editing the zombie will change it's skin back to 'blue zombie' each time. Five, the reason they have missing bits when killed is because those bits are the sub models used for voodoo souls and the sub models are killed when the zombie ragdolls. That's all I got for now. Hope Valve will fix them for next Halloween.--[[User:Mzullos5|Mzullos5]] 13:26, 17 April 2013 (PDT) | ||
Revision as of 01:22, 12 May 2013
Merge
This information might be better suited to the Bots page under a "Zombies" sub-section. If the entity isn't even used in the Halloween MvM mission (other areas of the Wiki state they are robot reskins), then it might not be worth documenting here at all, in which case it would be a topic suited for the VDC. i-ghost 11:04, 30 December 2012 (PST)
Support Sounds good to me. They're just reskinned Bots anyway. 
Blk_Mage_Ctype 20:19, 30 January 2013 (PST)
- You are wrong, these are not reskinned bots. They have their own classname and do not behave in the same way. These zombies do not make noises, they dont use the virtual keyboard and mousepad, they know where players are at all times and they fall dead if they get stuck.
- I think this topic shouldn't be merged, but improved, its kinda hard to improve it though since valve wont give us any info. MrRatermat2 05:01, 29 March 2013 (PDT)
Nope I really want this to be It's own article, like other entities created via the Create_Entity console command. Super Prototype... not so super. 08:41, 15 April 2013 (PDT)- Support I'm having mixed feelings about this. While they don't technically behave like regular bots we could make the argument that anything that's not a player is a "bot". I say merge it with Bots but make the distinction that they behave differently. That being said, I don't think the bot cvars do affect them, at least from my research they don't. I could be wrong here. Pumodi 03:16, 22 April 2013 (PDT)
- Support The two topics are similar enough to be on the same page. I don't see what would be lost in merging them. Ratermat, if Valve won't give us more info, wouldn't it be better to be merged rather than have a low quality page that can't be improved?
"Thanks, Doc!" 18:22, 11 May 2013 (PDT)
Entity Testing
I've been doing some testing with the zombie entity and discovered some interesting things. One, filters (like team and weapon slot) can be applied to them in hammer with 'damagefilter' key manually. Two, they have a tendency to damage each other in groups (This can be prevented with a filter_multi that has red and blue team filters on it and is set to 'OR'). Three, they will not attack players in nav areas connected to re-spawn rooms though they may walk though said nav areas to get to players outside of those navs. Four, their skin number cannot be changed. Even if you use commands or map editing the zombie will change it's skin back to 'blue zombie' each time. Five, the reason they have missing bits when killed is because those bits are the sub models used for voodoo souls and the sub models are killed when the zombie ragdolls. That's all I got for now. Hope Valve will fix them for next Halloween.--Mzullos5 13:26, 17 April 2013 (PDT)
