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'''Griefing''' C'est d'abuser ou d'utiliser une mechanique de jeu qui sert à perturber l'experience des autres joueurs dans le jeu.
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'''Griefing''' is the act of using or abusing a game mechanic in ways originally unintended by the game's developers for the specific purpose of angering or otherwise negatively impacting the game experience of another player. Griefing can sometimes be difficult to pinpoint because its defining characteristic is intent and not action.
Griefing c'est bien différent "d'être un idiot." Une abusation d'un Bug peut être du griefing, mais seulement si ça gêne les autres joueurs, et pas seulemnt quand ça leur donne des avantages.
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Griefing is distinctly different than "being an idiot." Bug abuse and hacking can be griefing, but only when done specifically to disrupt another player's gameplay, and not when done simply to gain an unfair advantage.
  
 
== List of acts that are ''never'' griefing ==
 
== List of acts that are ''never'' griefing ==
*[[Camping]]. Camping les lieu comme les spawns, les teleporteurs et autres.
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*[[Camping]]. Camping areas like spawn points and Teleporter exits, while not technically griefing, is still frowned upon.
  
 
*[[Turtling]]
 
*[[Turtling]]
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*[[Ambushing]]
 
*[[Ambushing]]
  
*[[Spy-checking|Rooting out Spies]], Ingénieurs, ou autres classes qui sa cachent derriere les autres.
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*[[Spy-checking|Rooting out Spies]], Engineers, or other classes hiding behind the team.
  
 
*Killing the same player repeatedly in order to remove a tactical advantage gained by their presence from a defensive or exposed location
 
*Killing the same player repeatedly in order to remove a tactical advantage gained by their presence from a defensive or exposed location
  
== List d'actes qui sont surement considérées comme du Griefing ==
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== List of acts that may be griefing ==
  
Les suivants sont considéré comme du griefing puisque il gêne les joueurs qui profite du jeu:
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The following are griefing when they are done to disrupt someone's enjoyment of the game:
  
 
*Mic [[Spamming|spam]]
 
*Mic [[Spamming|spam]]
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*Text/call spam
 
*Text/call spam
  
*abusation d'un Bug
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*Bug abuse
  
 
*[[Hacking]]
 
*[[Hacking]]
  
*Des [[Sprays]] choquants ou dire des choses offensives via le [[voice chat|speech]]
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*Offensive [[voice chat|speech]], text or [[Sprays]]
*Repetivement voler le tour des Teleporters pour les[[Classes]] vitaux
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*Repeatedly stealing Teleports from slower or more vital [[Classes]]
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== List of acts that are almost always griefing ==
  
== Liste des choses quisera toujours considéré comme le Griefing ==
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The following items are almost always griefing, because it is generally the only reason to do them:
  
Les objets suivants sont considérés comme du griefing:
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*Intentionally healing, or [[ÜberCharge|ÜberCharging]], enemy [[Spy|Spies]] so that they are able to kill your teammates.
  
*Consciament soigner, ou [[ÜberCharge|ÜberCharging]], les[[Spy|Spies]] ennemis et alors ils seront capables de tuer vos coéquipiers.
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*Intentionally and repeatedly [[Healing]] disguised friendly Spies in order to disrupt their cover.
  
*Consciament et répétivemnt [[Healing]] des spies déguisés en aliés pour qu'ils ne se fassent pas repérer.
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*Using [[Teleporter]]s to trap your team-mates in inescapable locations.
  
*Utiliser des [[Teleporter]]s pour pieger et bloquer vos coéquipier dans des endroits où on ne peut pas en sortir.
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*Deliberately placing Teleporters entrances across vital exits and entryways so it is impossible to pass them without being teleported (usually back to your spawn).
  
*Placer délibérément des entrés de Teleporters dans des endroits inutiles où c'est presque impossible de ne pas les utiliser (généralment devant les spawns).
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*Putting Teleporter exits in inescapable or immediately hostile areas.
  
*Poser des sorties de téléporters dans des endroits où on peut pas en sortir ou des endroits qui sont inutiles pour les coéquipiers.
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*Placing Teleporters that lead to useless areas or just a few feet away from the entrance.
 
*Placer des téléporters dans des endroits inutiles.
 
  
*Construire des sorties de téléporters dans votre propre base et placer des entrés dans la base ennemie, pour permettre aux Spies ennemis d'infiltrer votre base.
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*Building Teleporter exits in your own base and placing the entrance in the enemies, to allow Spies to repeatedly infiltrate your base.
  
*Consciament gacher la vue d'un Sniper en se mettant devant lui.
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*Continuously obstructing a Sniper's view by staying in front of the Sniper's scope.
  
*Les [[Exploit]]s, Comme marcher dans les airs dans [[Dustbowl]] (Stage 3, Point de Contrôle 2) dans l'idée d'enerver l'ennemi.
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*[[Exploit]]s, such as Skywalking in [[Dustbowl]] (Stage 3, Control Point 2) with the express idea in mind to annoy/anger the enemy team.
  
*Mettre des mitrailleuses et des distributeurs dans un endroit où il ne peut pas toucher l'ennemi; comme par exemple, Dans le respawn des BLU dans Gravel Pit.
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*Setting up Sentry Guns and Dispensers in areas that the enemy cannot reach in order to irritate your team-mates; for example, at the BLU team's setup/respawn area in Gravel Pit.
  
*Délibérément être inutile pour l'équipe. Comme exemple, rester sur place, utiliser seulement des armes de melée , Répétivement essayer de faire des taunt-kills, et courir sucidairement dans le feu de l'ennemi.
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*Intentionally being worthless to your team. For example, standing in the same place, only using melee weapons, repeatedly attempting taunt-kills, and running straight into enemy fire.
  
*Attaquer vos coéquipiers pendant longtemps pour aucune raison.  
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*Attacking your own teammates for long stretches of time for no reason besides annoying them.  
  
*Suivre tout le temp le même coéquipier pour aucune raison.
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*Following the same teammate around for no reason.
  
*Überer les autres de l'équipe pour aucune raison, comme Ûberer un Sniper qui ne sert pas à grand chose, Überer des partenaires dans le spawn etc.  
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*Übering teammates for no reason, such as Übering a Sniper that is in no danger, Übering teammates in the spawn, etc.  
  
*Quand on joue avec le Soldier, Inconsciament appeler le Medic avec l'[[Equalizer]] même quand vous êtes pas bléssé.
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*While you are playing as Soldier, intentionally calling for Medic with the [[Equalizer]] out, even when you are not injured.
  
*Quand on demande et que l'on reçoit, Un Ûbercharge en étant Soldier avec le [[Rocket Jumper]] ou en Demoman avec le[[Sticky Jumper]] equipé, Avec l'unique intention de gaspiller son Ûbercharge.
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*Calling for, and receiving, an ÜberCharge as a Soldier with the [[Rocket Jumper]] or Demoman with the [[Sticky Jumper]] equipped, with the sole intention of wasting the Medic's ÜberCharge.
  
*Expoler les[[Pumpkin Bombs]] avec le huntsman, le Mad Milk ou le Jarate with avec l'unique intention de tuer les coéquipiers.
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*Setting off [[Pumpkin Bombs]] with the Huntsman, Mad Milk or Jarate with the sole intent of teamkilling.
  
*Prendre le drapeau ennemi et ne pas le capturer et faire en sorte que les ennemies capture le vôtre.
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*Obtaining the enemy Intelligence in a Capture the Flag map and purposely not capturing it so as to prevent others from obtaining and capturing it.
  
*Construire un dispenser devant une mitrailleuse d'un allié pour qu'il ne tire pas.  
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*Building Dispenser in front of allied Sentry Guns to stop them from shooting.  
==Exemple de Greifing: Team Roomba ==
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==Griefing demonstration: Team Roomba ==
  
Se sont quelques exemples de griefing, fait par la Team Roomba.
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These are some examples of griefing, made by Team Roomba.
  
 
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Revision as of 13:19, 14 November 2010

It's lads like you that give war a bad name!
The Demoman


Griefing is the act of using or abusing a game mechanic in ways originally unintended by the game's developers for the specific purpose of angering or otherwise negatively impacting the game experience of another player. Griefing can sometimes be difficult to pinpoint because its defining characteristic is intent and not action.

Griefing is distinctly different than "being an idiot." Bug abuse and hacking can be griefing, but only when done specifically to disrupt another player's gameplay, and not when done simply to gain an unfair advantage.

List of acts that are never griefing

  • Camping. Camping areas like spawn points and Teleporter exits, while not technically griefing, is still frowned upon.
  • Killing the same player repeatedly in order to remove a tactical advantage gained by their presence from a defensive or exposed location

List of acts that may be griefing

The following are griefing when they are done to disrupt someone's enjoyment of the game:

  • Text/call spam
  • Bug abuse
  • Repeatedly stealing Teleports from slower or more vital Classes


List of acts that are almost always griefing

The following items are almost always griefing, because it is generally the only reason to do them:

  • Intentionally healing, or ÜberCharging, enemy Spies so that they are able to kill your teammates.
  • Intentionally and repeatedly Healing disguised friendly Spies in order to disrupt their cover.
  • Using Teleporters to trap your team-mates in inescapable locations.
  • Deliberately placing Teleporters entrances across vital exits and entryways so it is impossible to pass them without being teleported (usually back to your spawn).
  • Putting Teleporter exits in inescapable or immediately hostile areas.
  • Placing Teleporters that lead to useless areas or just a few feet away from the entrance.
  • Building Teleporter exits in your own base and placing the entrance in the enemies, to allow Spies to repeatedly infiltrate your base.
  • Continuously obstructing a Sniper's view by staying in front of the Sniper's scope.
  • Exploits, such as Skywalking in Dustbowl (Stage 3, Control Point 2) with the express idea in mind to annoy/anger the enemy team.
  • Setting up Sentry Guns and Dispensers in areas that the enemy cannot reach in order to irritate your team-mates; for example, at the BLU team's setup/respawn area in Gravel Pit.
  • Intentionally being worthless to your team. For example, standing in the same place, only using melee weapons, repeatedly attempting taunt-kills, and running straight into enemy fire.
  • Attacking your own teammates for long stretches of time for no reason besides annoying them.
  • Following the same teammate around for no reason.
  • Übering teammates for no reason, such as Übering a Sniper that is in no danger, Übering teammates in the spawn, etc.
  • While you are playing as Soldier, intentionally calling for Medic with the Equalizer out, even when you are not injured.
  • Calling for, and receiving, an ÜberCharge as a Soldier with the Rocket Jumper or Demoman with the Sticky Jumper equipped, with the sole intention of wasting the Medic's ÜberCharge.
  • Setting off Pumpkin Bombs with the Huntsman, Mad Milk or Jarate with the sole intent of teamkilling.
  • Obtaining the enemy Intelligence in a Capture the Flag map and purposely not capturing it so as to prevent others from obtaining and capturing it.
  • Building Dispenser in front of allied Sentry Guns to stop them from shooting.

Griefing demonstration: Team Roomba

These are some examples of griefing, made by Team Roomba.