Talk:Gifting Man from Gifting Land/Archive 1

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Trivia

If we're going to cite the Christian Bible, should we at least have a link to the passage?Reverend 13:09, 28 March 2012 (PDT)

I removed it because it was speculation. rZ 13:11, 28 March 2012 (PDT)

Yea, I noticed it was gone immediately after I posted this. Thanks. Reverend 13:12, 28 March 2012 (PDT)

Possible reference

Might be just me, but I think the name given to this hat makes a reference to Aqua's song "Lollipop (Candyman)" Superdude 13:54, 28 March 2012 (PDT)

We don't permit speculative trivia, sorry. rZ 13:56, 28 March 2012 (PDT)

Its a reference to the song Pootis man, which in turn is a reference to to Candyman. And its not very speculative, its pretty obvious valve intended the reference, especially since the song has almost 200,000 views.Spencer102 18:44, 30 March 2012 (PDT)

I hope that's a joke. All jokes aside, if Valve doesn't specifically say it's a reference, we can't label it as a reference. rZ 05:13, 2 April 2012 (PDT)

Jiggledboned?

Through modelviewer I saw no evidence the tag was jiggleboned, it was stiff the entire time. - Devozade 04:28, 29 March 2012 (PDT)

Is obtaining it limited to Secret Saxtons?

I know I wrote Secret Saxtons, but it occurred to me before nodding off into never never land that there are three ways one can give a gift:

1) Is of course Secret Saxtons: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Secret_Saxton 2) Pile o' Gifts: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Pile_o%27_Gifts 3) Gifting (as opposed to sending through trade) an item that's been gift wrapped: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Gift_wrap

It's very probable that the hat will be distributed by the most Secret Saxtons given through single Secret Saxtons and Pile o' Gifts (which I'll add immediately after this post), but could this mean gifting gift wrapped items. If so, is there a way to test this hypothesis. If not, is there an indication of why gifting gift wrapped items are ineligible?

Thanks.

Reverend 11:59, 29 March 2012 (PDT)

It very likely counts exactly as Spirit of Giving does. — C2Talon (c/t) 12:53, 29 March 2012 (PDT)

Limited to Secret Saxtons and Pile o' Gifts -- probably, but definitely? I guess time will tell. Reverend 13:47, 29 March 2012 (PDT)

Paint & Tags

When using this TF2 Items list it can be seen that the hat appears to keep the colour it has been painted with between owners. The Dueler hat was named by the second owner, but has not kept the name to the next, it could have been restored to remove the name though. - Devozade 03:25, 2 April 2012 (PDT)

Check whether or not the level stays the same between owners, paint, name, etc. It's possible two people painted the same hat the same color two days in a row. I'm still skeptical whether or not the paint, name and level stay the same between owners. rZ 05:10, 2 April 2012 (PDT)

While it'd be cool if it kept that info, it doesn't seem likely, unless the game "trades" the item to the next person instead of removing it from one person and adding it to the others backpack as 2 separate items. Balladofwindfishes 05:17, 2 April 2012 (PDT)

The item level stays the same according to that list too. - Devozade 06:38, 2 April 2012 (PDT)

Suppose someone deletes the hat. how would the game handle that? - Kincyr 16:36, 2 April 2012 (PDT)

Seems the Philateler owner deleted it. I suppose if it can't transfer the hat it generates a new one. We'll see tomorrow. - Devozade 14:43, 5 April 2012 (PDT)

Yep it just brings the hat back, the Philateler is back after being deleted, but it has the same item level again. - Devozade 01:48, 6 April 2012 (PDT)

List of hat owners

Should there be a page similar to the List of Community item owners for these 3 hats? Upgrade 14:30, 8 April 2012 (PDT)

I think not, check zis discussion. r4wrzSwagmaster 14:32, 8 April 2012 (PDT)

Item level

Yes when the item was generated it was given a random level between one and one hundred, but now it seems like the level given on the first day will stick with the items forever, even when deleted. Is it worth pointing out this in some manner? - Devozade 16:51, 13 April 2012 (PDT)

Team-colored glow

The intro states that the hat gives off a team-colored glow when unpainted, but the paint templates show that the glow changes with the paints. Can anyone clear this up?

Also are you able to see the hat through walls such as the portals in Portal 2 and team members in LFD? 07:47, 16 April 2012 (PDT)

As to the first comment I don't really follow. The glow counts as part of the hat so acts exactly like part of any other hat that has team coloured parts that get painted over. Also in part it answers the second comment here. It's not a glow like the payload or ctf glow. It's part of the hat and doesn't show through walls it just gives the hat an aura or such when you look at it directly. - Devozade 06:37, 17 April 2012 (PDT)

To clarify my first comment, I had envisioned that the glow would remained team-colored while the hat elements would be painted. I felt the description was misleading because it states that the hat gives off a team-colored glow (i.e. red and blue) while the paint templates show that the glow changes color with paints. However, I realized that this was the convention with all team-colored hat pages.

In essence, the paints will paint over the team-colored glow as well as painting the hat elements. http://steamcommunity.com/id/Slifin/screenshot/559813303719766808 15:09, 18 April 2012 (PDT)

pyro picture?

in the pyro picture it appears the pyro is holding an invisible shotgun...TubbyMonster 19:30, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

He's midway through the Hadouken taunt. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 03:01, 30 April 2012 (PDT)

This hat isn't Marketable

So I think it should be fixed, it may be a minor error but it should. When I try to edit it it says no so I can't do it. BrumBrumBrum 06:39, 22 February 2013 (PST)

How many gifts?

Obviously it constantly changes, but I was wondering if we should put an average amount of gifts needed for this on the page? I've started trying to contact past owners, only one reply so far, from CoolJosh3K: http://puu.sh/29CEQ . So it took him 100 gifts in a day to get this hat. I'll ask around more to get a better average, but do you think this would be good info to have on the page so people at least have an idea of what kind of competition to expect for earning this? And this could be done for the Philateler and Dueler as well. Redjarman 22:04, 27 February 2013 (PST)

Getting the average would require many and i mean MANY samples. you would probably need to contact atleast 50% or more of the previous owners. Ashes 22:21, 27 February 2013 (PST)

Well then let's start with seeing if this would be something worth putting on the page first. If it is, we could split up the work of contacting everyone Redjarman 22:22, 27 February 2013 (PST)

Average amounts of gift would be interesting I'll admit. same with Average # of stamps and average # of duel wins but the difficulty of collecting the data there will be painstaking. Especially since there have been... how many owners? This may need more input so I'll leave it at that for now before I ramble on more. Ashes 23:22, 27 February 2013 (PST)

I'm not sure it would take too long to be honest - we don't need to look at every past owner (not least because that would give a false value; the hype over these hats has died down somewhat). I'd say taking a sample every day for about a month would give reasonable estimates. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 03:49, 1 March 2013 (PST)

Well, if it is of any help, I had the hat once. I gave out 4 Pile o' Gifts when I got it.BrumBrumBrum 09:25, 4 April 2013 (PDT)

Pallet of Crates?

If i use pallet of crates i have chance to win the hat?Or crates do not count? PaoCharmoso (talk) 17:31, 16 February 2014 (PST)

Highly unlikely, since using the crate of pallets doesn't count towards the Spirit of Giving's progress, so they aren't really considered gifts. Redjarman (talk) 11:48, 17 February 2014 (PST)

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