Talk:Non-player characters

Elizabeth -> Emily?

In the Last Will and Testament of Zepheniah Mann, he leaves his estate to his maidservant Elizabeth. However, Loose Canon has the Will being read as giving the estate (what's left of it, anyways) to Emily. They are doubtlessly the same person (See the images) so which name should be used on the page? Maybe Valve's just trolling, but the issue still exists. The Neotank 13:34, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Elizabeth must be Emily. Plus it has an image of her, looking all Administratory right there. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 14:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I spoke to Makani in person, and she told me that they are separate people, and the inclusion of the name "Emily" in Zephaniah's will was a mistake. Elizabeth, Emily, and Helen are, however, all related. Fawkes 06:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Investigation of the Adminstrator's ancestry

This wiki page depicts Elizabeth/Emily as Zepheniah Mann's hand servant and also the woman who spoke with Radigan Conagher.

According to this page Elizabeth/Emily existed in the 1850s. However, forty years later she appears younger when she speaks with the Engineer's grandfather than she had in the previous page. Wouldn't the unnamed woman that spoke with Radigan Conagher be Elizabeth/Emily's daughter and the current Administrator's mother? TerminalGear 21:02, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

True dat. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 17:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

So then, shouldn't we make the distinction between Elizabeth/Emily and the unnamed woman? Because right now, all the wiki pages have them labeled as the same person... TerminalGear 19:03, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, seems reasonable enough. At least unless Valve manage to link them in another way, such as the theory that she had the third life extender machine (but that's aside the point for now). Hackett 19:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

1890's BLU Team

According to Makani, the only actual historical figure to appear in the 1890's BLU team portrait is Abraham Lincoln. The Engineer, Sniper, Scout, and Heavy are modeled after Tesla, Crockett, Billy the Kid and John Henry Irons, but are not necessarily supposed to be them. Spy was styled as a Fu Manchu type of character. Demoman is simply a crazy prospector, and was not drawn to resemble the original Demoman concept art. Soldier and Medic were simply drawn in the style of Civil War-era soldiers and medics, and were not meant to be specific people. Fawkes 06:45, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Here's her blog post on the subject: http://makani.deviantart.com/journal/33304412/ Fawkes 15:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Radigan is a Hale?

Maybe the Engineer is a decendant of the Hale family? Maybe Saxton is the grandfather, using his own life-prolonging machine nightly? Hmm, but there was a Hale present at the will signing... Michael 22:47, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Are you saying that because of the beefy appearance he takes as shown progressively by the hidden links of the engineer update? I think it's just an effect of Australium exposure. In any case, speculation I'd say — WindPower 22:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

• • Ah well, I can dream... Michael 23:14, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Tavish's Family

I seem to recall that the Soldier vs. Demoman comic mentions the Demoman's name is Tavish, and he had a full family (Mom and Dad) at one point. Should I type up a section under Groups on this, or is his family not quite big enough to fit under it? --ANormalUsername 19:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, it would be a tad superfluous, as Mrs. DeGroot already has her own section on the page. -The Neotank ( | Talk) 22:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You could combine the Mrs DeGroot bit and add a Mr DeGroot bit then call it the DeGroot Family. In groups. If you'd like. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 22:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that sounds good. We have a section on the Sniper's parents and we don't even know what they look like. --Firestorm   22:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Vladimir Bananas

was poopy joe's soviet nemesis, can we write something about him under or in poopy joe's section? Guy 21:55, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

You can put it in. -- En Ex _(talk) 21:57, 1 August 2010 (UTC)