Talk:Robots

Add unused bots?

There are currently a number of unused giants and special bots in the robot_standard.pop and robot_giant.pop files, but I'm not sure if it would be viable to add them to the article. Maybe add an "Unused Robots" section? (Said files are in team fortress 2 content.gcf -> tf -> scripts -> population) AbeX300 10:44, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Uber Medic Bots

From a few of my matches on the advanced difficulty, The medic bots will attack you with syringe guns if they are airblasted away from their target and have not deployed their Ubercharge. Can anyone confirm this? --Dragonrage 18:50, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, got killed by a medic bot. Wasn't separated from his target though, round had just ended Dagordae 22:55, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Normal Flare Pyros

They exist, found one (and got killed by) on Coal Town Sarcasm 18:40, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Razorback Snipers

While I haven't fought them myself, I've seen "Razorback Sniper" multiple times in the kill feed while playing on Mannworks, though I don't remember the exact mission, and I'm pretty sure they didn't have an unique icon, much like Bonk! Scouts and Buff Soldiers. Manibogi 20:19, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Missing Info

There are a number of things still absent from this page. Scouts can sometimes use Bonk!, Soldiers can sometimes use the Buff Banner, Pyros can sometimes use the Flare Gun, Snipers can sometimes use the Razorback. All of these do not get different icons. Medics can defend themselves with the Syringe Gun as a last resort (not sure if QF Medics can, or if it's only Uber Medics.) There are normal Giant Heavies and Giant Soldiers. Stonelikearock 23:52, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

• Scouts can use Bonk! Atomic Punch--I've never seen this.
• Soldiers can use the Buff Banner--Are you sure it's not the bomb bot upgrade?
• Pyros can use the Flare Gun--There is a special, giant flare gun pyro.
• Snipers can use the Razorback--Never seen this.
• Medics can defend themselves--Never seen this.
• Yes, the list doesn't have "Giant Heavy Robot" or "Giant Soldier Robot". Do you know the health or weapons of them? (do they wear hats) Darkid (|) 06:54, 19 August 2012 (PDT)

All of those definitely exist and are not mistaken as something else. - Devozade 07:59, 19 August 2012 (PDT)

Refer to the robot_standard.pop (#1) and robot_giant.pop (#2) files. [1] [2]
As I've asked, should we include the non-used bots? AbeX300 09:34, 19 August 2012 (PDT)

All non-stock robot types, pulled directly from the population files - not sure how to integrate this into the article

Class	Name	Items equipped	Attributes	Health
Scout	Scout (T_TFBot_Scout_Melee)	Bat		125
	NOT USED Scout (T_TFBot_Scout_Fish)	Holy Mackerel		125
	Scout (T_TFBot_Scout_Bonk)	Bonk! Atomic Punch Bat		125
	Minor League Scout (T_TFBot_Scout_Sandman)	Batter's Helmet The Sandman		125
	NOT USED Wrap Assassin (T_TFBot_Scout_Wrap_Assassin)	Wrap Assassin		125
Soldier	Buff Soldier (T_TFBot_Soldier_Buff_Banner)	Rocket Launcher Buff Banner Shovel	Spawns with full charge	200
Pyro	Flare Pyro (T_TFBot_Pyro_Flaregun)	Flare Gun		175
Demoman	Demoknight (T_TFBot_Demoman_Knight)	Chargin' Targe Eyelander	On Kill: 3 seconds of 100% critical chance	175
Heavy	Steel Gauntlet (T_TFBot_Heavyweapons_Fist)	Fists of Steel	+50% larger size	900
	Heavyweight Champ (T_TFBot_Heavyweapons_Heavyweight_Champ)	Pugilist's Protector Killing Gloves of Boxing		300
	Heavyweight Champ (T_TFBot_Heavyweapons_Heavyweight_Champ_Fast)	Pugilist's Protector Gloves of Running Urgently		300
	Heavy Mittens (T_TFBot_Heavyweapons_Gnome)	Holiday Punch	Always critboosted  30% faster move speed  +30% damage bonus	60
Medic	Uber Medic (T_TFBot_Medic)	Syringe Gun Medigun Bonesaw	Spawns with full charge  +100% Ubercharge rate  +400% heal rate	150
	Uber Medic (T_TFBot_Medic_QuickUber)	Syringe Gun Medigun Bonesaw	Spawns with full charge  +400% Ubercharge rate  -90% slower heal rate  Uber duration decreased 3 seconds	150
	Quick-Fix Medic (T_TFBot_Medic_BigHeal)	Syringe Gun Quick-Fix Bonesaw	+900% heal rate  -90% slower Ubercharge rate	150
	Quick-Fix Medic (T_TFBot_Medic_QuickFix)	Quick-Fix		150
Sniper	Razorback Sniper (T_TFBot_Sniper_Razorback)	Sniper Rifle Razorback Kukri		125
	Sydney Sniper (T_TFBot_Sniper_Sydney_Sleeper)	Sydney Sleeper SMG Kukri		125
	Bowman (T_TFBot_Sniper_Huntsman)	Huntsman	-50% damage penalty	125
Spy	Spy (T_TFBot_Spy)	Revolver Sapper Knife Disguise Kit Invis Watch		125

Class	Name	Items equipped	Attributes	Health
Scout	NOT USED Giant Scout (T_TFBot_Giant_Scout)	Scattergun		1600
	Super Scout (T_TFBot_Giant_Scout_Fast)	Bonk Boy Holy Mackerel	+100% faster move speed	1200
	Major League Scout (T_TFBot_Giant_Scout_Baseball)	Batter's Helmet Essential Accessories Sandman	+90% increase in recharge rate	1600
Soldier	Giant Soldier (T_TFBot_Giant_Soldier)	Rocket Launcher	50% slower move speed  Does not fire until fully reloaded	3800
	Giant Charged Soldier (T_TFBot_Giant_Soldier_Crit)	Original	Always critboosted  +50% faster reload time  -50% projectile speed  50% slower move speed	3800
	Giant Rapid Fire Soldier (T_TFBot_Giant_Soldier_Spammer)	Rocket Launcher	+50% faster firing speed  +20% faster reload time (??? faster reload rate -0.8)  -35% projectile speed  50% slower move speed	3800
Pyro	Giant Pyro (T_TFBot_Giant_Pyro)	Flamethrower	50% slower move speed	3000
	Giant Flare Pyro (T_TFBot_Giant_Pyro_Flare_Spammer)	Old Guadalajara Detonator	+70% faster firing speed  50% slower move speed	3000
	NOT USED Giant Airblast Pyro (T_TFBot_Giant_Pyro_Pusher)	Dead Cone Degreaser	+400% airblast push force  -95% damage penalty  50% slower move speed	3000
Demoman	Giant Rapid Fire Demoman (T_TFBot_Giant_Demoman)	Grenade Launcher	+25% faster firing speed  +60% faster reload time (??? faster reload rate -0.4)  50% slower move speed  Does not fire until fully reloaded	3300
	Giant Rapid Fire Demoman (T_TFBot_Giant_Demoman_RapidFire)	Grenade Launcher	+50% faster firing speed  50% slower move speed  Does not fire until fully reloaded	3000
	Giant Demoknight (T_TFBot_Giant_Demoman_PrinceTavish)	Prince Tavish's Crown Ali Baba's Wee Booties Chargin' Targe Eyelander	On Kill: 3 seconds of 100% critical chance  50% slower move speed	3300
	Sentry Buster (T_TFBot_Sentry_Buster)	Ullapool Caber	+100% faster move speed  Cannot be backstabbed	2500
Heavy	Giant Heavy (T_TFBot_Giant_Heavyweapons)	Minigun	+50% damage bonus  50% slower move speed	5000
	Giant Deflector Heavy (T_TFBot_Giant_Heavyweapons_Deflector)	U-clank-a Deflector	Bullets destroy rockets and grenades in flight  +50% damage bonus  50% slower move speed	5000
	NOT USED Giant Heavy (T_TFBot_Giant_Heavyweapons_BrassBeast)	Brass Beast	+50% damage bonus  50% slower move speed	5000
	NOT USED Giant Heavy (T_TFBot_Giant_Heavyweapons_Natascha)	Natascha	+50% damage bonus  50% slower move speed	5000
	NOT USED Super Heavyweight Champ (T_TFBot_Giant_Boxing_Heavy)	Pugilist's Protector Killing Gloves of Boxing	+20% damage bonus  +40% faster firing speed  50% slower move speed	5000
Medic	NOT USED Giant Medic (T_TFBot_Giant_Medic)	Quick-Fix	Spawns with full charge  +9900% heal rate  50% slower move speed	2000

Yes, this is a list of every preset bot type in MvM. Every bot that isn't on this list is completely stock, with the only exceptions being some Medics on all of Decoy's missions that have 400% faster uber rate and 90% slower heal rate (some of them spawn with full charge too), and some bat Scouts on Coaltown's second advanced map that have permanent critboost.

I made this list earlier, but for a lot of reasons, I'm not sure how it should be integrated into the actual page. Should the unused bot types like the Giant Medic be kept off the list? What about the Spy and melee Scout that still have presets for some reason even though they're completely stock, shouldn't they be kept off too? Also, what about the in-code names under the in-game ones, like T_TFBot_Giant_Demoman? Should those be removed, or are they necessary because of the different varieties of bots that have the same name, like all of the Medics and Giant Demomen? Keybored6522 10:07, 19 August 2012 (PDT)

this is great info, I'll update the individual robot pages to reflect these numbers Stripedy 12:02, 20 August 2012 (PDT)

I think we need a bot nav

with links to all the bots, like the class nav. Hopping from one robot page to another quickly is not very intuitive as it is now, and I think the 8 robots are enough to warrant a nav. Balladofwindfishes 10:40, 19 August 2012 (PDT)

 Support Agreed, so far I've just been keeping all the robot tabs open on my browser. I suspect that the Sentry Buster and the Tank have to be added as well. 19:25, 19 August 2012 (PDT)

Er. How's this?

- Tabs 18:06, 20 August 2012 (PDT)

Naming the GRU Heavy

The GRU heavy is not listed with a name. How about we call them 'Hasty Heavyweights'? Or simply GRU Heavyweights. I think they do deserve an original name if the game lacks one for them. K-Raider NL 03:21, 21 August 2012 (PDT)

Dead Ringer Spy?

When is there ever a case where the Spy uses a Dead Ringer? I've literally checked all of the .pop files, and there is no mention anywhere that a Spy uses a Dead Ringer at one point. Should that bit with the Spy using the Dead Ringer be removed? Or is there actual source that proves that the Spy does use the Dead Ringer at some point? AbeX300 09:34, 22 August 2012 (PDT)

Same thing goes for the Loch-N-Load Demomen that this page keeps going on about. They don't exist anywhere, but they appeared on the pages early on somehow and now I guess they've just stuck. Keybored6522 13:32, 22 August 2012 (PDT)

Class Icons

Where abouts in the GCF are the robot class icons?

Looking for them to see whether it is practical to modify these icons, or add more for new, customised classes in custom .pop files.

Somebody1212 03:27, 22 September 2012 (PDT)

vs. player behaviour

I noticed some patterns in how the bots react to players. Please tell me if you agree or not, help out if you want to, and then we have some more info for the page. At first, bots only attack players they see in front of them, while walking along the path with the bomb (carrier). Players behind them will not be noticed until they attack in some way. Robots close to a robot taking damage may turn around as well if a player flanks the group. (Giants will defend their medics ) Robots will chase players close to them after taking damage or a nearby bot taking damage. Robots have perfect accuracy, although they cannot seem to lead their targets. Not all robots have good tracking. (Spies instantly backstab when the have the chance) Sometimes, groups of robots will take a small detour, as long the route to the bomb does not lengthen too much. This usually happens when the bomb lies near the hatch. Robots will split up to attack the spawn area from the left and right. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by K-Raider NL (talk) • (contribs) 10:19, 25 September 2012

Sometimes, they deliberately foil strategies, and other times they fail to detect even the most obvious ones. For instance, a Scout and I (as a Pyro) snuck behind a giant Heavy using the shed in Decoy, and when we came out, the giant had no idea we were there. It didn't live very long... --Parnifia 06:42, 23 December 2012 (PST)