User talk:Lagg

Animated Stamp

Would you like me to try creating a Higher Def of the animated stamp?.Sorry if my rip wasnt that good -- Coneill987

No it's okay. I don't think a gif is really necessary anyway. The sprite sheet shows the animation in the best way possible. -- Lagg 22:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Alright i just fixed up the gallery for the page to show the sprite sheet ;) -- Coneill987

So what level do you get to see this effect? -- CaptainSneaky

You need to be playing on the same map you donated to. -- Lagg 12:02, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

RE: Valve Weapons

Actually, the main reason I made the page was I wanted to post a couple of youtube videos of Robin messing around with the Valve Rocket Launcher on public servers with ordinary players. It's rather amusing and real treat to watch for ordinary players who haven't seen it in action.

Where would be an appropriate page to post these? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Object404 (talk) • (contribs)

No, it wouldn't be. The wiki is a place for notable information, not showing off weapons. The problem is that it's so easy for someone that runs a server to attach a quality and attributes to the Rocket Launcher that make it identical to Robin's. If people want to see what Robin's Rocket Launcher looks like in game they can easily do a search on youtube, it doesn't have a place on this wiki. Also please be sure to sign your talk page comments with ~~~~ -- Lagg 16:46, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. Was that how the server admin Drunken F00l replicated Robin's Valve Rocket Launcher, or was he given one?

Well, anyway, it's not so much individual weapons but more of sightings of major valve/TF2 game designer celebrities showing up in public servers. Seeing these kinds of things are the equivalent of loch ness monster sightings, generate discussion and are notable since they're very rare. -Object404 17:03, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that is how he did it. Robin showing up on a server is not a major event, sorry. I just played on the same server as him about a week ago without even realizing it. -- Lagg 17:07, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Nazi/Medic Valve Statement

What dictates when a citation needed sentence can be removed? Do they remain indefinitely unless someone manages to find a source to reference (in which case, beginning a sentence with "Valve stated..." would guaranteed a certain level of immunity)? The only reason I ask is that I spent several hours online watching and reading interviews which lead to a dead link and no official info on it (just forum posts perpetuating second hand information). Just wanted to ask before spending any more time on other citation stuff. Thanks. Malthenius 09:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

No they don't remain indefinitely, but it will remain until it's discussed on the talk page. If a sentence has the citation template it means that it was not outright disproved but still needs to be confirmed. Also please remember to sign your talk page edits with ~~~~ -- Lagg 09:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Malthenius 09:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I took a look at the Medic article revision history and came across the following:

04:53, 12 November 2010 FlotsamX (7,601 bytes) (Removed trivia against guidelines; I doubt many assume that he was a Nazi in the first place)

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Medic&oldid=183890

Later on that same day it's re-introduced, same as before as a new "trvia tidbit":

22:45, 12 November 2010 FlotsamX (7,723 bytes) (Cleaned up the Medic article a bit, removed fluff, added a trivia tidbit) http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Medic&oldid=186217

I'm fine with leaving it as a citation needed issue despite my research, I just wanted to clarify what seems to be something of a contradiction. Also, I liked your signature idea so I copied it :D. --Malthenius 13:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately we don't always agree on what should stay and what shouldn't, but in this case if it was added again and is still there it means people agreed that it should be there. This is why I encouraged discussion before removing it. -- Lagg 14:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Whatever agreement took place, there is no documentation of any discussion of it. I'll drop the subject for good now though. --Malthenius 19:41, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Thumbnails

Yes, the do come from the GCF. -- Pilk _(talk) 17:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Thought so, the aliasing is horrible. Too bad Valve can't keep up with their own updates or we could use the ones provided by the API. Lagg 23:34, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Font

Sans-serif. Do it. -- Pilk _(talk) 00:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

irc://irc.freenode.net/tfwiki -- Pilk _(talk) 00:19, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Pyro item set

I knew the slot were already specified in the table, I put them there just for recap. And also they were sorted... at least may you restore that?--Kid Of The Century 23:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. Lagg 00:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've also removed those info from all other pages.--Kid Of The Century 08:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Page Example Videos

I have seen so many pages on this wiki showing people crafting stuff, opening crates, etc., usually rare stuff. My video shows the same thing on the Saxton Hale Mask Page, and it keeps getting undone. And I find them particularly useful and a neat idea to this site. ---[PM] ΡÖIЙ† βLΛЙҚ

The problem with videos like yours is that if we allowed one to stay all videos showing an item being crafted would have to stay as well. Nothing unique happens when crafting the Saxton Hale mask so a video is not needed. If you have seen similar videos on other pages it means we have missed them and would appreciate your help in cleaning them up. -- Lagg 23:37, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Removing full 1st person images!

In response: I was a bit worried about that. Then I checked some pages and realized my error. Sorry, hun! I'll go around and clean up the already deleted images linked to pages before going on. --Vaught 07:19, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

/* Your Recent Edits */

This is the traditional paisley-patterned bandana. The Heavy Duty Rag is identical save for the middle pattern being replaced by TF2 logos. --Larkke 00:06, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Paisley bandannas don't heave a gap on them, the patterns are dense across the entire thing. It might have been influenced by one but for now your trivia is merely an observation. It isn't very useful or interesting either, because most people will immediately recognize that it looks very much like the traditional bandanna. Please use show preview before making edits to a page in the future. -- Lagg 00:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply and clarification. I use show preview before editing, but I had forgotten to add signature. --Larkke 01:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm a man of my Words

You kept your promise in helping the team to win today, I shall keep mine too. Here you go, have fun with it: Tturbo 00:12, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

This user hates spam! Except when Agg "Spam Hammers" OTFWH's enemies...

Lugermorph

Seriously, please explain to me why two simple sentences explaining the basic gameplay values of an item aren't needed simply because we can go "oh why bother? Its somewhere else!". Why should the reader have to go to another page to find out how this item functions? Its basic computer philosophy mate, a user should be able to get the information on what they want as quickly and in as few moves as possible. If a user wants to know exactly a Lugermorph functions and how to use it we shouldn't be telling them to stop reading the Lugermorph one, read the pistol one and then come back. A brief summary of the gameplay measures is therefore quite reasonable on that article. Simply strutting in and going "Don't add this again!" isn't exactly helpful. -- Sabre 11:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I believe you answered your own question. Redundant information isn't needed. This is a wiki, the essence of which isn't to be a site designed for casual visitors. It is a place for people to be involved in a constant process of collaboration and documentation of things that change frequently. I apologize if you got the wrong idea from other weapon pages (I just noticed someone has been doing the same thing to the other alternate texture/model pages as well) but it was decided that we will not be pasting summaries or statistics from their respective normal variant pages. -- Lagg 11:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Minor niggling, but it wasn't copy-and-pasted, I wrote the summaries on the Big Kill and Lugermorph pages to try to convey the gameplay information with deliberately different and more brief wording to avoid any notion of simply copy-and-pasting. But whatever. May I ask where this was decided? I would just like to read the discussion for myself. -- Sabre 11:39, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

If the relevant discussion isn't on any of the weapon talk pages you can find it in the IRC logs. -- Lagg 12:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

"Facts" about Lagg

• The original offensineer -  Nope
• The original "tf2wiki.net is going places!" guy -  Yes
• The original guy that complains about Steam's API all the time -  Yes
• The original guy that complains about Steam not using XMPP all the time -  Nope
• Ended by Wind -  Yes

— Wind 22:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

• On Steam before there was a community, Wind, or the common offensineer.  Yes

-- Lagg 22:29, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Images needing movement

The next images need to be moved due to their names. Here is the list of the weapons that need to be moved:

• [1]
• [2]
• [3]

All of the above need just the Aw- before their name.Vulturas 18:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Done. -- Lagg 19:37, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Regarding a few of your recent undos

You apparently are not in the loop. If you read this, you'd notice that there was something amended. There was a lengthy discussion on the matter that took place primarily in the IRC at #tfwiki and was further discussed here. -- Psychopath 21:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I see you putting that amendment in, with no permission from any staff. I only remember that Seb, me, and Wind (maybe) agreed that there's no need for the redundancy. You were the only one that wanted it this way if I recall correctly, and before this discussion we agreed to only link to the original weapon's damage and function times section. I'm very much in the loop. -- Lagg 23:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Minecraft Map

Hey Lagg, was wondering if I could have a copy of the current state of the Minecraft map we have been playing on. I kinda want to continue my house and such in single player too since I'm rather proud of it.

No rush or anything naturally, just if you find some free time, would be nice to have. Thanks. -- Benjamoose (talk | contribs) 03:26, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Sure, remind me next time you're on. -- Lagg 09:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

You are credit to my userpage!

Hey Lagg, I wanted to thank you for the <div> examples you put into your userpage, and for all the help you've given me on the IRC. I am now, I believe, semi-not exceptionally awful with div's anymore. Thanks! MogDog66 _{t c p} || 07:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. I am now less awful at acknowledging thank you's. -- Lagg 17:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

why?

why you don't let me replace bad images.. that picture with sunbeams is sharp, it has grizzled veteran on it. And mine is without any misc, lighted, anti-aliased, higher resolution.... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by ARTYOM (talk) • (contribs)

I believe nVis has told you why a few times. It doesn't have a pose, it's too close, the AA on the first one was fine. These aren't meant to be consistent with a model viewer style shot, if they were we would be using the model viewer. It doesn't matter if there's misc. items. They're in game shots. -- Lagg 13:05, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh，I sorry about that.

Thanks for warning. Although I just want to help those new users from China to know somethings about WIKI. Anyway,thanks again for the information you offered. Nafoul 16:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Let's not do what now?

Lagg (Talk | contribs) (11,015 bytes) (Undo edit by Dr. Huxley (Talk) (401126) Let's not do this, mkay?)

Do what now? Sorry I don't understand what you meant when you reverted that. Dr. Huxley 00:48, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the lack of explanation, the summary provided in that section before my most recent revision to it was beginning to be a mess and was already mostly wrong. "Let's not do this" referred to people stacking patch dates and everything on that when they shouldn't really be there. -- Lagg 00:57, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thanks for explaining. Dr. Huxley 01:00, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

IT IS

COMPLETE. -RJs 20:42, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Fixed that for you, also dat world render time. -- Lagg 21:05, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

WIKICHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED

Wikichievement	Awarded by	Reason
Lagg Pleaser Successfully infiltrate and improve one of Lagg's most carefully monitored pages or avoid irritating him in one life.	The Redirect Maker	Wikichievement unlocked! Do I really need to explain this one?

--Stevoisiak 01:46, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Recursion error aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa- — Wind 01:52, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

That would be the one wikiachievement that I will never get. :D ~AwesomeSauce~ 02:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

A normal person would have a stack overflow from this recursion, however in this case it has only served to boost my ego. A well deserved achievement indeed. -- Lagg 06:57, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Greame

Hey Sorry about that Lagg i was trying to do the show preview thing and i kept losing connection so it kept messing up. ~AwesomeSauce~ 22:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Gabe newell and robin Walker

Hey Lagg those images were for my sandbox page on gabe newell and a image for robin walker for steviosiaks Work in progress pages.just wondering why you deleted them. THE3STOOGES 00:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

The same reason given in the deletion log, they're not following the user image guidelines. -- Lagg 00:55, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

List of items atributes

Hi, I was decided to translated this page to spanish, but I see that you have deleted it in the past and when I was to copy the code to do it agais, I see a warning saying that the article automatically changed of something like that.
My answer is: Can I translate it to spanish? If the answer is "Yes", I going to trasnalated it (but in other time because I go in holidays). Jag Gentleman 11:30, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

No, we're currently working on a way to automatically generate the list using the in game translations easily in one place. The reason we're not allowing manual translations is that the list is automatically regenerated regularly and manually maintained versions run the risk of going out of date. -- Lagg 20:08, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

I understand, thaks for the explanation. Jag Gentleman 20:42, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Deleting duplicate upload

Thank you for deleting that image. I had a bunch of tabs open to all kinds of guides trying to figure out how to tag it for deletion and couldn't figure it out. :( NSCoder 06:58, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I figured you were going to request it anyway. -- Lagg 07:06, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

< Poot Wiki Ideas Here >

I had this ideas now. The first is about the Message Alert box that appears to the users who has a new message to the Discussion Page, it would be great to add the Postal Pummeler's kill icon to the template box so this box has a notification logo. Second, it would be cool to add the new Wikipedia Article Feedback Tool in a more TF Wiki style since its a system that gives a person a chance to give feedback to the users who is making these articles for the Wiki. Also, it would be a good idea to add a feedback counter to the users. The Noble Scout _(T/C) 10:55, 19 July 2011 (PDT)

I believe that requires an extension we don't use, but I put your idea up for discussion. -- Lagg 13:36, 23 July 2011 (PDT)

Moderator guidelines

This is just a generic message to notify all mods/admins of the finally-in-writing moderator guidelines. If you don't agree with any of the guidelines, or just have questions, feel free to let me know on my talk page or in IRC. Cheers. -- Pilk ^(talk) 06:31, 24 September 2011 (PDT)

You've been mentioned in a discussion.

See here. The Cult of Personality ^(talk) 21:26, 21 January 2012 (PST)

Sorry, all I'm seeing here is "Lagg banned me, he is a big dumb meany head.". Your behavior in the channel was causing frustration in more than one person and your attitude as a whole isn't wanted in this project. Your video was also put there for the express purpose of causing a flamewar. And in fact I had no idea that the person I banned and you were the same person until someone highlighted me and told me who it was. I had in fact forgot about the entire problem until just a few days ago, you can campaign against me all you want but the fact will not change that you don't learn your lesson and aren't interested in doing anything besides frustrating people. -- Lagg 08:37, 22 January 2012 (PST)

Please stop with unneccessary bans, 404: User Not Found was a really cool guy. — Cronos Dage • talk • contribs • my code mods 17:35, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

You're about half a year late with this input, and if the bans had not been deemed appropriate /or necessary they would have been long removed (or in this person's case, stayed removed). Beyond that, refer to my above line. -- Lagg 19:49, 1 May 2012 (PDT)

Spats (stop add drop)

Plz stop adding drop to the article. --askarmuk, C? 04:46, 28 May 2012 (PDT)

backpack.tf deletion

I responded to your deletion in the page discussion here. Ruiner 11:25, 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Sorry

I tend to not focus on copyright stuff. I didn't know it wasn't allowed. Is there a safe alternate for this? --Mass.Led^10(talk - contribs) 17:42, 8 July 2012 (PDT)

I'm not sure. As far as I'm aware the only thing Google allows is unmodified screenshots (which may have the logo somewhere in there). Beyond that you'd have to ask them. -- Lagg 17:44, 8 July 2012 (PDT)

TF2 Find page deletion

I noticed that you deleted my TF2 Find page and that you had previously deleted backpack.tf's page. First off, I think you're not in a position to remove website pages since you're biased because you manage OPTF2. You say that it's about notability, and I wouldn't say OPTF2 is very notable (personally discovered it recently). Most people use either tf2b.com or tf2items.com so I'm not sure on what basis you measure notability. I had posted my site on reddit and it got a fairly decent response. The wiki's purpose, I assume, is to help users get information about their favorite game and I think my site does that. I don't know why there has to be some "notability" entrance fee for something that, at the end, is for the benefit of the community. I might agree somewhat if you want to be picky about the community navbar, but to remove the article entirely, I think is ridiculous, since it's not a spam website or one filled with ads.

Either way, I don't care if my site is on the wiki or not since I don't make any money from it and the code is open source, although I would be interested in seeing what other wiki members make of this. Filmore 12:38, 8 September 2012 (PDT)

As far as my bias goes I will only point to this discussion since there's really nothing more to add as far as that goes. As far as OPTF2 itself goes: 1) It has existed almost as long as TF2 has. 2) I did not create its page on this wiki. 3) It has been used as a tool by the wiki for some time now. 4) It pioneered a few now common features. 5) It has been recognized by Valve. In my fairly exhaustive review of your project I did not find any of these attributes. The assertion of how many people use OPTF2 is mostly irrelevant because it lost a large chunk of its user base during a fairly long downtime a year ago and I have been lazy in advertising it. So I'm sure more people do use tf2items or tf2b now, which is why they are listed here. -- Lagg 12:49, 8 September 2012 (PDT)

I would like to point out that saying Lagg is biased in his opinion of deleting pages because he runs OPTF2 would imply that since you run TF2Find, you would also be biased in the creation of pages.--Piemanmoo 13:01, 8 September 2012 (PDT)

AbuseFilters?

I was curious why this wiki does not use the AbuseFilter extension to block basic spam edits? I've never had incidents with it catching real users instead of spam and it works well as long as it's written correctly. Many large wikis use it such as Wikipedia, Wowpedia or Minecraft Wiki (if you wanted to see how their AbuseFilters work). It could save you a lot of time from having to delete and block over and over. Just a suggestion, maybe there's a reason you guys don't use it already! --Memomo 21:42, 19 September 2012 (PDT)

I believe we've already sent Valve a request to install it. So if you would like to improve the situation I suggest sending them a mail about it. -- Lagg 21:47, 19 September 2012 (PDT)

Perhaps now that we have server access, this could be considered? – Smashman _(talk) 19:47, 21 June 2013 (PDT)

About asking permission before..

Hey Lagg, i wanted permission to translate page into my language which is Indonesian. Since you dont replied at IRC for being busy before, i hope you replied to me from this mail. Thank you

Irufort 14:03, 7 October 2012 (PDT)

Hi there, I sincerely apologize for not replying earlier. I was speaking to a client. We'll discuss adding a new language and I'll let you know what comes of it. -- Lagg 15:46, 7 October 2012 (PDT)

Depreciated Webpages

It seems you've removed Ubercharged.net, Community Fortress, TF2TV, TF2Bazaar, Control Point (podcast), Friendly Fire (podcast), and ESEA for lack of notability/recent updates/cancellation. For all deleted, please remove all languages. Darkid (|) 11:19, 18 October 2012 (PDT)

Not sure why I didn't get this message until now, but sure. Sorry about that. Keep forgetting to remove the subpages. -- Lagg 06:54, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

WebAPI/GetPlayerSummaries

I noticed you reverted the changes, I commented on the page's discussion tab as to my justification. Found here --Eoj Nawoh 08:56, 5 February 2013 (PST)

webAPI links not working

Hi, i've notice that some of the webAPI/... links are broken but I'm not sure that should i delete it or just leave it i see your the creator of the pages so i just wanna make sure its ok or not.

Hecarimz

Protect

Thank you. – Smashman _(talk) 19:43, 21 June 2013 (PDT)

And the other 2? :) – Smashman _(talk) 19:45, 21 June 2013 (PDT)