Talk:Horseless Headless Horsemann

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MMO?

Bosses? In my TF2? It's more likely than you think! – Smashman (talk) 01:28, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Having just killed him for somewhere around the 50th or so time, I'm almost certain that critical hits don't effect him. Or if they do, they're minor. He can't be headshot by a Sniper, and presumably he can't be backstabbed by a Spy. I've been using the Minigun primarily, and he seems to last, at point blank, from 70 to 120 of my ammo units, regardless of crits, with just me in the server. I'm assuming I'm missing A LOT with the 120, damn my horrible Heavy skills. --Lijitsu 06:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Also note, if the round ends with him alive, or at least if RED wins, then he can't be killed until the next round. I'll test it out with BLU in a few moments.--Lijitsu 06:39, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Yep, it's if the round ends with him alive. Just tested it with BLU, and put about 130 or more ammo units into him with the Heavy's minigun, no death. Also note he CAN be injured, or presumably even killed, while 'spawning.' The swirling mist stuff that launches people back does NOT stop damage from coming through, just makes it incredibly difficult to melee him.--Lijitsu 06:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
I found out a fast way to take him down. Have him distracted and have a Spy backstab him, and it deals 1000 of his health. KABLAM! There's a quarter of your health gone. Thunder 09:45, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Droppable axe?

After grinding for several hours with other people and killing the horsemann untold times we still haven't seen the Unusual Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker drop. Is this just a rumor or fact? If true, it must have an incredibly low drop rate as I don't know anyone who's found one. Moussekateer 06:48, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a rumour based on the unusual scrap drop GeneShark 06:50, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
I haven't found it yet either, and as I stated above I've killed him like 50 times now. Either it's a rumor as Geneshark stated, it doesn't drop unless there's a certain amount of players, or the drop rate is insanely low.--Lijitsu 06:52, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
After browsing the forums I too have come to the conclusion it's either a fake rumor or a 0.000000000000000001% chance of a drop. I'm removing this line from the article. Moussekateer 06:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Note on credit and being alive

I've not tested this extensively, but the article claims anyone who's damaged him and is alive at it's time of death will receive credit, whereas if you die after damaging him but before he dies it seems you won't recieve credit unless you hit him again. Again, I didn't really test this, it's just a bit of an observation I made after playing after a couple hours. --FEGuy 07:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I haven't tested it much either, but I'm pretty sure it's not everyone. I think it works like a normal kill, so two people are awarded the achievement - the killer and one person with an assist (ie: the last person to have hit him before the killing blow). I say this because I don't think I've ever seen more than 2 people get the achievement at once. -- Alex2539 -- 10:01, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Getting the metal like a dirty cheater

I found out you can force him to spawn and get the metal on your own offline server. The console commands are: sv_cheats 1; noclip; hurtme -9999999; bot; tf_halloween_force_boss_spawn; sv_cheats 0; retry Also, the best way to kill him by yourself is to go Demoman, stickyjump on a place he can't reach, and spam stickies at your heart's content.