User talk:Cream Tea

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Changes in availability

Hi,

Others may have covered this with you, but changes in an item are generally not notable and so are not Trivia, ( unless it is really notable, like historic game breaking/major rebalancing in which case it is still not Trivia because the changes should be discussed in the Patch page). Also, any change history is not Trivia since it is completely covered by Update histroy. Also, be careful commenting on common availability conditions, because they are common (now news). M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (To Do) 23:14, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Alright, it doesn't seem very obvious anywhere though for new users that a few hats could bypass their "untradeable"ity by gift wrapping them (since they were still giftable) that's why I thought it would be worth mentioning but I understand what you mean, thank you. Cream Tea (talk) 00:08, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

One posible place for such discussion could be Gift Wrap, but according to the Update history, untradeable items cannot be Gift Wrapped as of 2017. If someone can write knowledgeable and authoritatively about Valve's original intents for Gift Wrap as well as the reason for the 2017 change, then Gift Wrap would be the place to do so. I assumed that the (original) point of Gift Wrap was to be able to trade untradeable items for a fee, but now it is nothing more than a way to spend money to trade, in case using free trading to send a gift is too Poor and Irish. M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (To Do) 22:25, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry this is two weeks late but I wanted to say that most untradeable items were ungiftable too, only a few were actually giftable while still being untradable (such as the bounty hat, there were a few others too but not many). I get that it probably can't be done now but it was still a part of the TF2 economy back in the day. The original point of gift wrap was to make it easier to give gifts to people (You could do it directly on a server rather than have to invite them to a trade) but people realised it could be used to trade certain items that weren't directly tradable but still giftable. It's mentioned on unofficial places such as forums but it is never mentioned here on the official forum as a piece of history.Cream Tea (talk) 22:16, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

If an interesting paragraph or two of the above could be written based on Valve sources, it could be put under Notes for Gift Wrap (rather than Trivia), but my opinion is no guarantee .... .🦌🦌🦌🦌🎅 M I K 🎄 D O 282. ❄❄❄❄❄❄ ❄❄ ❄❄ (talk) (To Do) 19:51, 29 December 2018 (UTC)