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Shortstop is not a pepperbox

(Also @User:GrampaSwood)

TF2 Ludicer, I understand the mistake.

The type is "peppergun" and some associate that with "pepperbox" gun. But that association is generally untrue.

Peppergun is simply an alternate name for a shotgun, and each of Scout's primaries is a shotgun and the Shortstop fires buckshot in the game.

Pepperbox is specifically an old type of revolver where the whole barrels rotate instead of just the chambers. The name pepperbox comes from the rotating barrel motion resembling a pepper grinder.

This means that Valve calling it a peppergun in no way means that it is a pepperbox. Repeat, the Shortstop has no resemblance to any pepperbox; Shortstop is a break action derringer.

The creator originally intended a pistol, but Valve put the item into the Shotgun slot.
The creator originally intended a pepperbox, but decided that a pepperbox was too antique for the game.
The creator stated they switched from the pepperbox idea to a "Remington Elliot". The terminology is unclear, and here we get weird; some identify the Remington Elliot as a revolver and pepperbox, but most images show a break action Derringer, not a revolver.
The Remington Elliots were in fact a range of barrel and break action designs, but the grip was generally consistent.
The creator stated that they did not like the curvy grip of the Remington Elliots, and referenced other pistols (at least 10 different pistols) for their design.
Someone once identified the Shortstop as a COP .357 Derringer. I agree that the barrel has features of the COP .357 Derringer, but the item has the ring trigger of the Elliot (functioning as guard rather than a trigger). The grip is from some other pistol all together. And Derringers really didn't have external hammers like the Shortstop.

Some of the creator's posts: