Talk:Community fads

A few to add

Shouldn't Christian Brutal Sniper, Gentlementlemen, and Gottam be added? Audioclave 15:08, 3 December 2011 (PST)

Some memes to add and remove

The fact that some memes on here I have never heard of is a little shocking since if have played the game since 2007. I still believe some of these don't have enough popularity to be on here, and some have been overlooked.

Some memes to add:

• Pootis and Gottam (did I mention that Gottam is the first TF2 meme invented?)
• This Is Scout, Rainbows Make Me Cry!
• Bonk Remixes and or Songs
• Need A Dispenser Here!

Agreed. Need a Dispenser and Pootis especially, not so sure about Rainbows Make Me Cry. And don't forget Gentlementlemen. Ampers& 17:26, 12 July 2011 (PDT)

And don't worry, all of these are on KYM.

Now, one to remove. (I will add reasons why)

• Seeman (not a reconazied meme; doesn't have allot of views

PoopManX 18:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Future Additions

This page is pretty full, but it is still missing:

• Humping Sniper[1]
• HWM models in Garry's Mod (although this is probably part of a bigger Garry's Mod category) [2]
• Golden Machine Gun[3]

Are these possible additions? --Focusknock 11:43, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

On the russian page, there is a TF2 rick roll. Can someone stranslate that to english? - Mentlegen

Never heard of any except the infamous HWM models.

sure,i'll do it --Condemned 20:18, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I think painis cupcake is much more well known than the This is what I see with my eyes closed. If you doubt me, go to any micspam server and just listen in :). --Kurathedog 02:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't heard about these memes except HWM models. I think that is better put the Christian Brutal Sniper. --Jagoba RL 17:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I find it odd that while the page mentions the Odd Scout (which had three or four videos), Seeman and his lesser-known companion, Seeldier, aren't talked about. Wing Dairu 05:35, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I never even heard of those (even though I don't spend my day watching TF2 gmod videos on youtube), so I'm inclined to say their popularity and notability isn't skyrocket high to include them in the "memes" article. Stab ! 19:01, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I've heard of seeman, but never of seeldier nor odd scout. And I spend my days watching TF2 gmod videos. Still, odd scout has lots of views. Most seeman videos have far less. Lord Melchior 16:26, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

What about the In A Nutshell videos, like 2Fort In A Nutshell, Dustbowl In A Nutshell or Achievement_idle in a nutshell? Those have a characteristic enough style and they're getting popular/widespread enough that it might merit mentioning down the line. Reverie Planetarian 10:51, 11 February 2011 (EST)

I defenetly say that "...in a nutshell is a popular fad." Guybrush20X6 00:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Oluapgineer

Oluap should be honored to have his fad on the page....

Thunderstorm 06:38, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

W+M1

"An infamous video showed a player experiencing success with the Pyro by only using the "W" key and "Mouse1" (Moving forward and primary fire). This led to the creation of the term W + M1,"

This is inaccurate. The term W+M1 existed way before the video (which dates from 2009), right about when TF2 started if I recall correctly. I'm editing this. Stabnrun 02:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 Support If this is suggesting that we add W+M1 to the list, then I can't agree more. PoopManX 18:20, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Scout is delicious: Not well known?

Sorry, what? --Vaught 02:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Added it back already. Zoolooman 02:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty. Was just curious as why it wouldn't be well known when youtube is lit up with responses to it. No harm no foul! --Vaught 02:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

a whole LOAD of memes: should I add them all?

i know the whereabouts of a few seemingly million, do i give the link or add them all? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yourdeadthatsgoodamen (talk) • (contribs)

There really aren't that many TF2 Fads, let alone memes. I don't advise adding as many popular youtube video characters as you know of etc. If you have any suggestions, suggest it here in the talk page, and you'll get some input from the rest of the members. Also, remember to sign your posts with ~~~~ (four tildes). -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 00:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup tag?

Is there a need for it anymore, or should it just be removed now that the article has been cleaned up? Stab ! 17:05, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Lines

Strange decision,deleting those horizontal lines.Looks ugly. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Condemned (talk) • (contribs) 20:18, 24 November 2010

Uh.. no it doesn't? "nope.avi" and all the others that you added "lines" for are actually sub-"categories" of the main "Youtube memes" category, so they shouldn't be "promoted" like that just because it looks ugly... Stab ! 20:49, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Demopan

I think this counts as a meme now but I don't know enough to add it. Guybrush20X6 23:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Wait a couple months. If it's still around, it can be added. Bonzi77 09:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Is a picture of Demopan. I believe it's currently a meme right now, but again, let us way a month. If it still continues, then we can call that a meme. A meme takes time. Wintergreen 00:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Not to hijack this section, but speaking of other well-known memes, the Gentlementlemen series (including the other videos with that song, despite the realm of the meme extending far beyond TF2) is also be notable enough to be added, as well as possibly Polite/Crazed Sniper (though it seems they only have one video each). —烏Γ ^{(kaw at me)}, 19:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

One of the most obvious is ignored

And something officially recognized and added to the game - FYI I Am A Spy. —烏Γ ^{(kaw at me)}, 07:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, a Community Manager on Knowyourmeme.com had this to say:

There are obviously a TON of videos, image macros, and every type of media one can think of for Team Fortress 2. The game has a rich history in it’s short life, with lots of updates, and crossovers into other memes. The problem is that not all of these things are memetic items. The vast majority of it is fanart. The game is insanely popular, I play it myself, but it’s the kind of thing that will naturally be parodied. It’s like the Britney Spears of video games. And with video games today becoming more popular than movies, TF2 is a well-represented force in the media regardless of what any particular instance looks like. Any big video game will inspire parody and fanart."

That was a year ago, and shortly after the said article was posted as an attempted meme, it was deadpooled. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 09:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Knowyourmeme as a guideline.

I've been thinking, and I hate to be the one to say this, but as much as we love the items on the Memes page, a lot of these things are not Memes. They are just huge fads within the Team Fortress community. A big bunch of these have managed to cultivate Meme status, but we really can't list every Team Fortress 2 inside joke as a born Meme. Most people outside of the TF2 community have never heard of these, even the Meme filled /b/tards. I think on a wiki (an official one at that) we should be more correct in our terminology.

I propose that we either use knowyourmeme.com (they have a status: confirmed/denied on the right) as a resource to check before adding content to this page, move some of the items to a differently named page or section, or list their current Meme status beside the proposed Meme.

Before anyone discredits knowyourmeme.com they have a stricter system than here when it comes to accepting and they do a hell of a lot of research before announcing something as a meme.

So, to start said ball rolling:

• Gentlemen - Confirmed Meme.
• Poor and Irish - Not a Meme, not even a single reference or attempt. An inside joke.
• Saxton Hale - Deadpooled, it just TF2 fan base clone of a real Meme. An inside joke.
• Spycrab - Confirmed Meme.
• Demopan - Confirmed Meme.
• Voice Clip Mashups - I checked, but this is pretty obviously not a Meme.
• nope.avi - Currently being researched.
• Scout is Delicious - Confirmed Meme.
• Painis Cupcake - Deadpooled, however reopened for research.
• Vagineer - Currently being researched, though looks promising.
• Odd Scout - No references at all.
• Seeman - Not a Meme, give it time.
• Christian Brutal Sniper - Not a Meme.

The problem with most of these, is they are simply either inside jokes or things that have a fan base and have been cultivated within the TF2 community because of this. It's like calling a TV show a Meme, just because it has a fan base that quote it in parodied situations, they are not the same thing. Even noting them as a cult status or something similar would be better.

To those sad at the idea to see some of these go or moved somewhere else, remember, a lot of these have yet to grow, and many will eventually reach said status. This page needs a better layout and content style anyway. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 09:31, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

The problem with using Know Your Meme is that there are some memes (Saxton or nope.avi for example) that are heavily used within the TF2 community but rarely used outside of it (as opposed to, say, "Gentlemen" or "Spycrab") and so they might get deadpooled even though they're used a lot. But I agree, this needs a major MAJOR rewrite, most of the "Youtube Memes" are just popular videos that I personally never heard of (and by "popular" I mean only a few few portion of the YT/GMod/TF2 community has seen them) and there are some old memes that should be referenced too. Who remembers "OVERTIME OVERTIME OVAAHTIME"? Stab ! 12:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, but that is partially my point, those not acceptable (or yet acceptable) to sites like that, are not really Memes at all. They are just fads and cult fan comedy that has gained popularity within Team Fortress 2's community. They are nothing but inside jokes and references, so I think we really need to get rid of the whole "Team Fortress 2 and its community are responsible for the birth of a variety of memes." when the game really can't take that much credit. I mean the meme definition is vague at best even if it is taken from wikipedia. The definition of a meme could be applied to many non-meme things. As a whole, we either need to redefine these items as internal fads (with a better title of course) or strip out the non-meme items. Either that or we put them under honorable mentions in a section on the page. Knowyourmeme.com is quite happy to acknowledge the TF2 content as a Meme as long as it gains that status. Many of these are simply... Well, not at that point... I mean I like to consider my self in the know when it comes to the internetz, I have developed custom content for TF2, I lurk youtube etc, but even I have not heard of Seeman for example. They are just VERY popular youtube fan videos that people like. That doesn't make them memes. Otherwise every partner video on youtube would be a meme. As for the whole audio mash up thing, that isn't even a meme at all. While it is widespread in TF2 videos for custom dialogue, people have been doing audio mashup content to gain custom speech since before the damn TV was invented, so that one needs to go either way. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 14:19, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Simple solution, we move the page to something like "Fanbase Fads"/"Fan Fads" or something better sounding, then we can add all the popular items as they are. Then at the end of each paragraph for each individual fad, if the fad has reached meme status, we simply add "The "Gentleman" fad has reached Meme status" at the end in bold or something, with the name linking to the knowyourmeme.com page (replacing the fad name with whatever). -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 14:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

For those unsure about how relevent "Fad" or even "Trend" is;

"A fad, sometimes called a trend, meme or a craze, is any form of behavior that develops among a large population and is collectively followed with enthusiasm for some period, generally as a result of the behavior's being perceived as novel in some way.[1] A fad is said to "catch on" when the number of people adopting it begins to increase rapidly."

Considering they even use meme in the opening line, I'd say it was appropriate, giving that the internet's own definition of a meme is a little more specific and in-depth than a fad. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 14:30, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I'd definitely agree with moving the page to something a little less rigid and specific, since that would allow for popular non-memes to be included. XP —烏Γ ^{(kaw at me)}, 19:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree with changing the title as "memes" isn't exactly accurate, but changing it to "Community fads" isn't accurate either because it implies that ALL of these "memes" were quickly forgotten shortly after being popular, which isn't true for some of them (Gentlemen, Spycrab, etc.). Changing it to "Community trends" would be a better in my opinion since it says nothing about its duration or popularity. What do you think? Stab ! 14:23, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

"Trend" directly implies the duration of popularity. >v> —烏Γ ^{(kaw at me)}, 17:43, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

How does "trend" imply the duration of popularity, really?

Trend: "a line of general direction of movement, a prevailing tendency of inclination, a style or preference, a line of development, or the general movement over time of a statistically detectable change. In a few words, "trend" is a synonym to "tendency"."

Fad: "A phenomenon that becomes popular for a very short time. From French fade, from Late Latin *fatidus, a blend of Latin fatuus (“foolish”) and vapidus (“vapid”)."

"Though the term trend may be used interchangeably with fad, a fad is generally considered a fleeting behavior whereas a trend is considered to be a behavior that evolves into a relatively permanent change."

Trend sounds much less derogatory and more accurate to me, whereas fad directly implies that these terms were short-lived, when, quite frankly, most of them weren't/aren't. Stab ! 22:52, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

True, but that all depends on your perception of time given the individual scenarios. Leg Warmers were considered a Fad during the 80s, but they were worn for a whole ten years. Then during the 2000s, they made a comeback after a decade of being unworn and unfashionable, and are now as popular as ever amongst teen girls. "Fad" is accurately suitable, given that when the game dies out, only the Memes will likely live on. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 14:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Where links to Know Your Meme were placed, I've added whether they are confirmed as memes, or are just submitted. Shane Alvarado 23:19, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, moving this. I was new then, and didn't understand how the order of things worked. Shane Alvarado 13:56, 28 July 2011 (PDT)

I think this should be featured because...

I believe this page should be a featured article because i found it very informational. Newbies might be confused when people talk about spycrabs and W+M1. I actually figured out the meaning of W+M1 on this page. Please make this a featured article.

I have a number of memes that I know that are worthy of mention here. -- Thunder

It seems that this article is still too young to be featured. By this, I mean that it needs some more work, as some people seem to disagree with what fads are currently mentioned in the article. For example, the topic above. I personally think that "The Odd Scout" has no business being in this article. Shane Alvarado 23:08, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I moved your paragraph to the bottom of the page due to it not having a title and thus being above the page content index. I hope you don't mind. On that note, my opinion of your suggestion is that I would hate for something displaying a main character as a Vagina, to be featured on the main page. Memes are not vital/helpful information and some of them are certainly not what a new player would want to see. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 09:37, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Vagineer

Ben, any reason you deleted the bit about Snyphurr? Seems like a valid part of the Vagineer series. On another note, I readded the definition of memes to the top, to provide some sort of context for the "recognized meme" notes on Demopan and his colleagues. —烏Γ ^{(kaw at me)}, 01:54, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I removed it because I don't think we should be listing every insignificant little detail about their story arc and episode listings etc. I did the same for the Painis Cupcake, I removed a part that links to his other videos. I think each section should just explain who they are and why they are a Fad/Meme, with links to say their first appearance being relevent. Each paragraph was/is way too big on some of them anyhow. So in short, Snyphurr isn't the Vagineer, so unless he is suddenly a Fad/Meme too, I don't think he should be mentioned. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 22:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Oddscout?

Correct me if i am right, but i have not heard about that meme. I have played Tf2 for a time now and i have not heard a single time that someone have talked about Oddscout. So how did it become a meme? Altair 18:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

It is fairly new. There were 3 videos that involved the Odd Scout, but thats it. It wouldn't be considered a meme, but more of a fad Nihilus0 01:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

A Fad? To be honest, i have seen more of Heavydile and Weaslecake than Oddscout. I wouldnt really count it as a fad either, but more of something odd randomness that you just make because that you are bored. If that was ok, why the hell aint L.A.E (Law Abiding Engineer) ok then? Altair 12:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

I can assure you, though not a Meme, it is most definitely a Fad. The Odd Scout has a lot of fan art (some of it questionable) and is also referenced occaisonaly during gameplay (I have heard such). The whole point of removing the Meme page and having a Community Fads page, was so that things such as this could be noted. A Fad is low enough, there really isn't a need to lower it to something else. As for Law Abiding Engineer; though popular, it's questionable as to whether this is a Fad. It's pretty much been forgotten about in terms of keeping it alive through joke/reference. Give it time though, it may become a Fad at some point, and as I said, it IS debatable. -- Benjamuffin (talk | contribs) 14:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Indeed Bejnamuffin, but the question is, will it have enough time? Or will it collapse like a very strange video with engineer did from the Fads? Nobody knows. Altair 11:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sven's Condensed list of requested Fads

Here it is:

• Snyphurr
• Jarate Cake Dick
• The "Kiss Me" series of videos
• Sewer Medic
• The "Food debate" series of videos
• Weaselcake

Lol forgot the signature. Sven 22:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't really think any of those are Fads. I know of a few of them (such as the Food debate) but they're really just popular videos, not fads. -- Benjamoose (talk | contribs) 01:48, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Why wouldn't the Food Debate, at least, be a fad by now? It's a long, ongoing series, with derivatives. It's better than the "What I see when X Y" series, which could arguably be mentioned here, also. Sven 21:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

See now I WOULD consider calling the "What i see when I close my eyes" a fad, though it's not strictly TF2 related so it's not applicable. Beyond the actual videos made by the author, there is little in the way of additional fan created content for the Food Debate. It's a popular video, but nothing more really... -- Benjamoose (talk | contribs) 21:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, it seems that our definitions of the word "Fad" is different, at the very least. I would hardly consider Odd Scout a Fad, but, as your post in the above discussion says, you clearly do. I still think that the Food Debate is more deserving than Odd Scout, given the amount of videos about it. Sven 21:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

If there are any that has a chance here to be on the list, it has to be Weaslecake and the food debate series. Snyphurr? I dont think so. Just a special version made for Vagineer. Jarate Cake dick? It has no chance at all. Also, who is jarate cake dick? The Kiss Me series? Nope. They are starting to get pretty boring. They would have a chance if it was'nt for that they has been going on for a good while and really boring me out. Sewer Medic? It would have a chance, if gb7zone7 was'nt so lazy that he stoped making the sewer medic. Weasle Cake and the food debate series do i consider. Altair 11:08, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Name of the article

I think we should change it back to memes, and maybe have "Fads" redirect to it. All in favor? Mr. Wii 23:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

They changed in the first place because many of the fads on this page aren't yet considered memes. Nihilus0 23:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

As Nihilus0 said, there are WAY more fads here than memes, the current system of listing fads then marking the ones that have become memes is a lot neater than the old page. Not only that but if we moved it back, we'd have to lose half of the content. -- Benjamoose (talk | contribs) 01:48, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

DA AMERICA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w2h9DXJh7c | This is probably a new fad. It's got a full page of responses now. I guess I could describe it. It consists of a Soldier on the middle point of Badlands staring at the viewer for a brief moment, then declaring the name of a country, such as Russia. The soldier's appearance changes to match the country that it said (For example, "Russia" leads to a Officer's Ushanka on the head.), After a brief moment, a music from the particular country starts playing, and the soldier dances. | Original Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w2h9DXJh7c Mr. Wii 18:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

The Staregineer has been added. --TheJayMaster 02:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

| I did not say anything about Staregineer! Mr. Wii 02:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

@Mr Wii: I checked that out when you first posted about it above, and it looks like it's almost fad worthy though not a strong one as of yet. Though I do think it's worth discussing.

@TheJayMaster: Don't just add random "fads" to the page without discussing it's notability first.

@Everyone: Please, everyone remember; all new/recently made fads need to be discussed on this page before being added. Also, remember, just because something IS a fad, it doesn't mean it's notable enough to put on the page. If we put every fad on the wiki we'd have a never ending page of things most people had never heard of. This page is to be treated like the Community Mod pages (VS Saxton Hale for instance). By that I mean we only add the notable fads, and all memes (as they are already notable to become memes in the first place). Long story short, currently I don't think Staregineer is notable. -- Benjamoose (talk | contribs) 19:13, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

A few more possible fads

• Gotchaneer
• Something on *map name*
• The Vicious Cycle of *map name*
• The "In a Nutshell" videos

Some are new fads, but I think they could be added to the page. Nihilus0 05:26, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

The Vicious Cycle

Here's a something new I discovered today, this is the original video. Considering it's only about a month old, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not technically a "fad" yet, yet it's got a boatload of Response videos all in the same style.Xenon91 03:10, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

It isn't yet, a fad is usually MAJOR. --OddPyro 17:15, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Question

Should Dic Soupcan be a recognised meme or is he not famous enough? just wondering. {{icon killicon|weapon=showdown}} PWNED NARB!{{icon killicon|weapon=explosion}} 17:57, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I've personally never heard of it, but the "recognized meme" tag, is reserved for actual memes. We can't really debate that one, as if something is a meme, it's strikingly obvious and on "knowyourmeme.com".

All you can really do is debate whether it is "fad" worthy, which I don't think it is. A quick youtube search pulls out a bunch of videos, but most of them are each from single users uploading multiple jokes on the subject. In other words, "a handful of videos each, but only a few users doing it". Meaning it's not a fad. Yet... My two cents. -- Benjamoose (talk | contribs) 18:02, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Sniper Hump

Shouldn't the sniper hump be on here? As seen here

It is done all the time and i have never even heard of half of the other stuff that is on this page... Bakkerthehacker 00:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Uh, nope. *Ep 3 delay* maggosh 00:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I personally don't think it needs to be here, as it isn't really a fad as it is something funny to watch/do. I don't see people going around going "Hey, ultimate Sniper hump party!" However, I do see people going "Hey, ultimate Spycrab party!" — Xenak (Talk|Contribs) 05:07, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Do we really need this page?

It doesn't feel like it's really necessary to have a page documenting a bunch of videos some guy makes where he cuts apart some TF2 quotes to make them say vulgar things. It's just obnoxious. I'm aware I'm in the minority here but I just find most of these to be really, really stupid. Evang7 18:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't really like this page, but it doesn't really hurt anyone being up. Just a Gigolo - (talk) 18:59, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

We don't need it...then again, we don't need editors, either. maggosh 19:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Notable Fads

As some have probably noticed, a good portion of this page is now gone. This was done after a discussion on the IRC about the noteability of random Youtube videos that don't really influence the game at all and aren't known well enough both outside and within TF2. So here's where we are with the fads.

Crazy Legs: Notable for being on the blog... and not much else. It was on the blog though, so not much we can do.

Demopan: Stout Shako for 2 refined (there's no way this isn't noteable. One of the most well known and most used TF2 memes)

Nope.avi: Has evolved outside of TF2 and is a proper meme

Spycrab: Valve officially talks about it on the Spy update and made a taunt for Spy about it

Saxton Hale: Used in tons of TF2 media and known outside of TF2.

Gentlemen: Mentioned in Meet the Spy (somewhat), but this is another one like Nope. It's moved beyond TF2.

Ones I question

Poor and Irish: I'm not sure how notable this is, or how much of a "fad" it really is.

Crazy Legs: Not really well known at all. It's only claim to fame is being on the blog, which gives it a lot of credit.

I also suggest...

FYI I'm a Spy be added to the page. It has TWO achievements related to it, plus one of the winners of the Saxxys used the meme.

So, I expect rage in the future, probably an edit war. Maybe even a few good old fashioned bans. But this was discussed and it all makes sense when you sit and think about what is actually noteable or not. When you ask a random TF2 player who Christian Brutal Sniper is, do they know? Because I'm an average TF2 player and I didn't know. Balladofwindfishes 01:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

I also question Poor and Irish. But yeah, there is going to be so much debate over this. I guess I would prefer to stay out of it, but I don't know. Shane Alvarado 05:51, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Poor and Irish is used as the description for the Towering Pillar of Hats, but not much else. I don't, personally, think that is notable though. Balladofwindfishes 14:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Swordvan

There's now been 2 official references to this, one in Meet the Sniper, and now one in the doctor's office picture from the blog. I'd say that's enough for me to warrant a mention on this page. How do other people feel? Balladofwindfishes 18:23, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Care to explain those references a bit more? Where in Meet the Sniper, and where in that image, is there a reference to this? By the way, I had to look up what Swordvan is. --Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 23:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

The bumper sticker on Sniper's van says "My other van is a swordvan" and in the pic of the doctor's office, on the eye test board, the letters spell "swordvan" Balladofwindfishes 23:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Well noticed! And I've seen those videos so many times... Get a couple of good-quality screenshots and you might just be allowed to stick them here. --Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 19:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I would have never noticed that. Amazing find.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   21:00, 29 June 2011 (PDT)

Vagineer + Christian Brutal Sniper

Now, as this wiki is meant to be as informative as possible, I think these should be added, as they are both recognized memes (i think) and present in the VS Saxton Hale Mod. Rocket Ship BBQ 16:25, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

No, relatively unknown outside of the TF2 community, and not present at all in-game. They are merely popular YouTube videos, and aren't even that popular. This page is now geared more for either memes that have left TF2 (Nope, Gentlemen and Demopan) or were acknowledged by Valve (Spycrab, Bacon Legs, Saxton Hale, FYI I'm a Spy) Balladofwindfishes 17:24, 13 July 2011 (PDT)

VS Saxton Hale Mod is still a strong community mod, and these characters are two of the four core main characters. To not have any information on them feels lacking. Software2 01:01, 14 October 2011 (PDT)

Demopan2.png

Is it possible to use my Uploaded IMAGE?

Image is unused.

Direct xD 05:33, 16 August 2011 (PDT)

Not really - it isn't any more notable than the hundred other demopan spoof posters that exist. Please remember to sign your name with four tilde symbols, like this: ~~~~ This automatically adds your username and the date of your post, don't type your name manually. » Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 18:10, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

Nope. Simple as that. Balladofwindfishes 18:14, 30 July 2011 (PDT)

As Drunk as I like? (Good Demoman song)

Is the Good Demoman Song Song a noteworthy fad?

The Good Demoman is the combination of Suika Ibuki's pre-battle theme "As Drunk as I Like" from Touhou 10.5: Scarlet Weather Rhapsody and the Demoman's initial dialogue from Meet the Demoman. Flashn00b 02:02, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

No, because it is not a fad. -- - _{(talk | contribs)} -- 02:14, 4 August 2011 (PDT)

Requested move

Community Fads > Community fads Rolandius 20:28, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

 Support, per standard Wiki formatting. coreycubed / talk 20:31, 22 August 2011 (PDT)

New Demopan picture

Just thought i would ask your opinions before adding it

There is no fire texture, the hat may not be perfectly positioned, there is no clipping issues anywhere except for the unavoidable arm thing, but what do you guys think? Masterlegodude 23:37, 27 August 2011 (PDT)

What was wrong with the old picture? Your new one's good, but if it ain't broke don't fix it. » Cooper Kid (blether·contreebs) 13:19, 28 August 2011 (PDT)

The one that is already there is the original picture that started the meme. For "posterity's" sake I think it should remain. -- - _{(talk | contribs)} -- 13:27, 28 August 2011 (PDT)

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Demopan_Large.png This picture of the Demopan that is used on top of the Community Fads page is in the 'Improve Bad Images' page due to the fire overlay and hat positioning, so i've fixed that and given the Demopan a better pose to show off ALL of his items, including the Charge N Targe, i don't want to change the picture in the Demopan area below, it's the one on the top of the page Masterlegodude 18:56, 28 August 2011 (PDT)

Looks real nice, but is the frying pan positioned correctly? It looks a little high. Balladofwindfishes 18:58, 28 August 2011 (PDT)

panpositioning.jpg Excuse the sharp edges, the laptop doesn't support anti-aliasing (though it does support the higher quality textures), i don't use it for picture taking anyway Masterlegodude 19:56, 28 August 2011 (PDT)

Well why didn't you say so! Looks good, under close examination I can see why the old one had the improvement tag. Yours is certainly better anyway, you might as well go ahead and replace it. » Cooper Kid (blether·contreebs) 09:06, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

yea, I'd say upload it. Balladofwindfishes 10:50, 29 August 2011 (PDT)

Fad?

Vagineer and Painis Cupcake are totally TF2 Fads!!! --ScoutKast 20:32, 12 September 2011 (PDT)

Voice Commands fit into Fads?

I was wondering if some of the voice commands said by the classes would count as fads, most notably:"Need a Dispenser Here!","Poot Dispenser Here!", and "Gotta Move that Gear up!". These are commonly used in the game in the form of mic spam and used on the internet as well. I think these would be fine additions to the page, but i'm not exactly sure if they are okay additions.AnthonyX 19:27, 15 September 2011 (PDT)

I don't think any of them really count as fads. » Cooper Kid (blether·contreebs) 13:35, 16 September 2011 (PDT)

"I have no idea!!!"

Is this a meme? Details... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Direct xD (talk) • (contribs) 10:46, 11 October 2011

I would say no. It hasn't really caught on like, say, Demopan did. Demopan was fire straight out the gates. I haven't heard/seen IHNI used outside of a TF2 reference either, so it's still pretty local. Perhaps in time this can actually run it's course and become a true meme, and not a forced one. SS2R 03:18, 11 October 2011 (PDT)

Did you think I would forget YOU!?!

I think that The Vicious Cycle should be added to the list now, since it has heaps of responses, and even some from other games, such as Killing Floor and variants of the original as well, such as a G Major version and a Brony version too. Also, maybe consider "I HAVE NO IDEA!" again as a Fad, since it's a recognized Meme and has outside directs to it, such as this one here. So maybe consider those two for the list again? [UGS 2nd]Lancer @nti-tank Rocket 11:51, 25 November 2011 (GMT)

"x is a recognized and confirmed meme"

Just because something has an article on KYM doesn't mean it's a "recognised and confirmed" meme. Anything can be of "meme" status, so I don't see why KYM articles need to be pointed out multiple times in the article as if it's some sort of achievement. Just my two cents. --Fiskie 19:53, 21 February 2012 (PST)

As an addendum, remember KYM is the place where people are just monetizing from other people's content. Do not take the site seriously.--Fiskie 19:55, 21 February 2012 (PST)

Wait, no Propane nightmares?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzG_syyvWgc --Salvoilmiosi 04:04, 1 November 2012 (PDT)

Wait What?

There's only a few community fads in the list, and there are still plenty more. Like, Ninja Spy, Vagineer, Seeman, and Seeldier. Shouldn't we add them to the list? And my favorite by engineer, GOTTAMGOTTAMGOTTAMGOTTAM (Gotta move dat gear up!) Weirdduder10 10:27, 11 November 2012 (PST)

Well, most of the fads you brought up aren't popular enough to be seen or brought by Valve in anyway. To be a fad, one must be able to tell exactly what it is at first glance and I don't think too many people are familiar with Seeman or Seeldier. Bruss48 _{(T | C)} 11:51, 11 November 2012 (PST)

Painis cupcake?

Why isn't he on the page? Pretty much everyone thinks he's a meme/fad. Kalle198 04:44, 17 March 2013 (PDT)

 Support He has a theme song, explosive posters, movie poster spoofs, just like demopan... now all we need is a fake class page for Aprils fools day. Super Prototype... not so super. 07:26, 17 April 2013 (PDT)

Mentioned so many times. To be honest, it wouldn't be very pleasant to have all these things here, with the dirty names. And they aren't really in-game like these actual fads recognized by Valve. ErnieTheGreatest (talk) 18:33, 23 January 2014 (PST)

I removed it because it is not official or ever seen ingame and is a Garry's Mod meme. It's not really TF2 except for the model. Like I said before, it's also a little inappropriate. ErnieTheGreatest (talk) 18:33, 23 January 2014 (PST)

Well, to be fair, this was a community fad (not that big anymore) and it doesn't have to be recognized by Valve. At one time it was a pretty big thing in the community, and as the beginning of the page states, "Some of the most frequently used mediums to create Team Fortress 2 fads include not only Team Fortress 2 itself, but also Garry's Mod and Source Filmmaker." That being said, it doesn't have to be in game officially. It was a fad, no doubt, so I don't think the removal was too necessary. TerabyteNation (talk) 18:56, 23 January 2014 (PST)

Yes, thats saying there's more. But this is the TF2 wiki not the GMod wiki. We're talking about the fads about TF2 in TF2... right? I don't think it fits. All the others are actual ingame stuff. ErnieTheGreatest (talk) 19:00, 23 January 2014 (PST)

If he isnt on this page someone need to remove the redirect (Painis Cupcake bring us that page) PaoCharmoso (talk) 18:58, 24 March 2014 (PDT)

Either Painis Cupcake (and possibly other) fads be added, or Vagineer be removed. Both have "offensive" names and are products of Gmod that don't appear in-game. ⇒ Anyar (talk/contributions/giveaway) 16:56, 8 May 2017 (PDT)

Vagineer and TF2 remixes

I looked at KnowYourMeme today and found there voice remixes and remakes of popular songs have status confirmed. So - shouldn't they be there? Don't say you didn't saw some of them - Erectin' a gear, Texas Style, Baby by Heavy Bieber etc. Also, I think they are very popular - I already saw tens of them and other tens are flows through internet - and still arise many of them (more or less quality).

As well I think there should be Vagineer - he's almost same popular as Painis Cupcake, he appeared in many videos (as cameo, but primarily as main protagonist or antagonist). Also, just for fun, often normal's Engineers face turn into that Vagineer's in Gmod videos.

What do you think? I will tolerate if you don't agree, but at least Vagineer really should be... JTCZ (talk) 13:38, 15 June 2013 (PDT)

Pootis

Shouldn't this be a featured community fad? We have "Gentlemen", "Demopan" and the Crazy Legs one and all that, why not Pootis? It's like the new Pingas (and everyone remembers that... or not). I think this should be in the page. What's your opinion? Vicyorus (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2013 (PDT)

I agree. It's probably one of the most popular voice things and is very famous in friendly servers and stuff. I don't know if I should add it ErnieTheGreatest (talk) 18:32, 23 January 2014 (PST)

This, again.. ErnieTheGreatest (talk) 00:53, 17 August 2014 (PDT)

Pootis pootis here. It is big, it is well known, it is pootis. -- Keisari 14:30, 23 July 2015 (PDT)

Looks like this meme got sufficient approval. Adding section. Dan9er (talk) 10:23, 25 July 2015 (PDT)

  I think no. For me, this page is for memorable memes (and important?). Pootis is a generic meme, and this "meme" Isn't relevant on "know your meme", why will be here? — The preceding assigned comment was added by Tark {Finish Him! ▪ Contribs} 12:13, 25 July 2015 (PDT)

Page Translate

My username is Ragequit Noob . Contact me if you want to translate this page to traditional c hinese. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ragequit Noob (talk) • (contribs)

Please add "Bonus Ducks!"

This is relatively new meme, but it is growing fast... Dan9er (talk) 13:01, 3 January 2015 (PST)

"But it is growing fast", so its still not notable as its not FULLY well known. Not to mention it is still "new". So how about we give it some time before adding anything. Because if we just let people add what they want, well it just becomes a mess. Ashes (talk) 15:34, 3 January 2015 (PST)

In fact, one good meme but, "died" very fast, 1-2 months after end of "the eotl hype", this meme was dead. -Tark (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2015 (PDT)

Other Memes worthy to add

Surprise Butsecks

This meme is a voice remix of the Spy saying "Butsecks" which was made by a Youtube user named Scoutelite whose channel was taken down.
The remix became very popular among the game's fanbase, resulting in lots of fan-made music videos. A Youtube user named NISLT made the "Surprise Butsecks" meme much more popular among the TF2 Community with the video "How to Surprise Buttsecks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxWMwWKukTM)" with Surprise Butsecks done in different situations in later videos (Playlist with all confirmed Surprise Butsecks: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLivKLoWHYlNuWwKKK594TPvrbrdVqyOXC). A backstab can be considered as a "Surprise Butsecks" or a successful hit from the Skewer taunt performed by a Sniper with the Huntsman or Fortified Compound. Here is the original Surprise Butsecks video reuploaded: https://youtu.be/dgUbRpdUN1w.
Mannofnope (talk) 04:41, 16 December 2016 (PST)

Painis Cupcake will eat this page.

This page is lacking one of the most well known fads out there: Painis Cupcake. He's one of the oldest TF2 "freaks", or fad characters out there and he isn't recognized here. There's even a redirect page titled "Painis cupcake" leading to this page and he's not even listed! He deserves to be added in his honour!
Also, on a different note, should I add an External Link to the TF2 freakshow wiki? You can find loads of community fads there.
SkyTBM; inexperienced TF2 Coach, seeking out for the greater good. (talk) 15:53, 19 December 2016 (PST)

"Further reading"?

Many of these memes have their own page on the Gmod wiki, such as Rappy. Should these links be added to, possibly as "Further Reading"? ⇒ Anyar (talk/contributions/giveaway) 10:46, 12 April 2017 (PDT)

I think that adding a hatnote or footnote for each section that has a Gmod page would better than a list at the bottom. A hatnote would go like

See also external [page url Gmod page].

But I see that several fads have a footnote bullet for

• XXXXX has a page on Know Your Meme.

so, I would think that a consistent practice would be appending a footnote like

• XXXXX has a page on [page url Gmod Wiki].

IIRC, there was hesitance in the past to link to many external sites of certain types (for unofficial maps, mods, groups, etc.). I am unfamiliar with the Gmod wiki, maybe it is official enough to be OK. So, try the footnote bullets and see what the reaction is. Mikado282 (talk) 17:17, 13 April 2017 (PDT)

Yes, that was the plan.

The Gmod articles are decent and more comprehensive, but some are riddled with grammatical and other errors. Not sure if those are enough to prevent us from citing them as sources, because they do still have a lot of good information. ⇒ Anyar (talk/contributions/giveaway) 18:43, 13 April 2017 (PDT)

Broken link

The Demopan section has a link titled "explosion" in line 4 of the section's first paragraph.

The URL, http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1064/mystout.png, redirects to the website's main page instead of said image. ⇒ Anyar (talk/contributions/giveaway) 16:54, 8 May 2017 (PDT)

Looks like the image either got taken down or removed. Another one needs to be uploaded essentially. I think we can just remove the link since it's no longer functional. Ashes (talk) 05:54, 9 May 2017 (PDT)

Yeah, does someone have the image or is able to find it online? ⇒ Anyar (talk/contributions/giveaway) 08:59, 9 May 2017 (PDT)

Crazy legs can still take a significant form of bug.

The following image has the same bacon flexibility.

MasterVelyk (talk) 16:38, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I have observed this as well, perhaps it should be added as a note.--Akolyth (talk) 17:49, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

new fad but i'm curious if "The Observer" fits under the fads

a new loadout for spy has been making an appearance around the tf2 reddit titled "the observer" and cause a spike in the price of 3 hats for how funny looking the loadout is to creepily look at people with it. I would be interested to write about it, if it fits under the wiki.

Zaenoch(talk) 17:05, 5 August 2019 (EST)

Buying Quicksells 8 keys each

This is not that relavant, but it's spammed in trade servers. got nothing else to add.

Mecha-Godzilla (talk) 21:46, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Is it a fad or just jargon? If jargon add it to Glossary of player terms. To add it as a fad or meme on this page, you would need some evidence.M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (Help Wanted!) 01:58, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

The layout

I think the layout of this page is a little messy, especially the photos.

Should we design it again to make it tidy？

Dereko (talk) 06:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Good point, maybe we also need to define what a community fad really is. We could turn it into a table.
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

The Spycrab taunt chance

In Spy taunts page its said that there is approximately a one-tenth chance of the taunt occurring，but in this page its 20%.

Which one is more accurate？

Dereko (talk) 07:47, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Check when both statistics were added.
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

History information for the Observer/Watcher.

Hey, after someone linked me here to show that "The Observer" has been added as a community fad, I see a significant lack of info other than "it surfaced on Reddit". I know the original 3 people who started it, we're all in a Discord server together. I'm not a very good wiki writer so I won't make the changes myself but if anyone is interested in writing a more detailed history of the idea, let me know. I can also provide proof that we really are the originals, if you don't believe me based on my word alone. Aquidu (talk) 04:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

help

can someone do any necisary changes to my section on troldiers — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Msmeal18 (talk) • (contribs) 19:36 CET 18 December 2020

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Trolldier is not a fad, as it's a playstyle and not a fad. Just like how any other common weapon combination is not a fad.
GrampaSwood (talk) 18:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

it's the fact that it's called a trolgier and not a soldier with the rocket jumper, man treads, and market garden. Msmeal18 (talk) 18:56, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

That does not make it a fad, it's a playstyle with a name. It's covered in the Glossary just fine.
GrampaSwood (talk) 18:58, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

so is demopan and friendlies should we remove those, those are play styles — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Msmeal18 (talk) • (contribs) 00:45 CET 09/01/2021

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The demopan is more than just a playstyle, it's been a meme for really long. Friendlies quite a large amount of playstyles, as opposed to just market gardener + rocket jumper.
GrampaSwood (talk) 00:17, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Search for the Sandvich

The Search for the Sandvich's section is getting a bit long, I'm not sure how to make it shorter. I'm against moving it to its own page, personally.
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:12, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

"You better answer ze question" meme

Given that it involves the official cast and later made its way into the ongoing Search for the Sandvich saga, would it be notable enough for its own entry on this page.Pumpkinjacko25 (talk) 19:29, 4 July 2023 (UTC)