Talk:MONOCULUS/Archive 1

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Monoculus and HHH

Is it worth noting that when both the HHH and Eye are spawned, they will not attack eachother, unlike when multiple HHH are spawned?

Also the entity name is eyeball_boss. Untouch 12:02, 28 October 2011 (PDT)

Maybe for Trivia, but I don't think it's that noteworthy. After all, in order to force a boss spawn, you need to turn sv_cheats on and therefore shouldn't be considered to be part of the main game anyway. - Selbi 16:14, 28 October 2011 (PDT)

Neither are notable, as they don't both spawn normally, and the entity name isn't interesting/note worthy. - nixshadow (t|c) 16:21, 28 October 2011 (PDT)

From a mapper's standpoint it is. xD Less research for me. Sven 10:45, 29 October 2011 (PDT)

They don't attack each other, it's a quirk with HHH's AI. He's coded to try to destroy anything blocking his path; this includes other HHHs. Warrior 7 19:44, 29 October 2011 (PDT)

Trivia

I just made my first update to the wiki, I added the "Pyro can deflect Monoculus' projectiles as a trivia, is that okay? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hunterh98 (talk) • (contribs) 03:05, 1 November 2011

Sorry, but that isn't interesting trivia, and it's already mentioned in the article anyway. Take a look at the Trivia Guide. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 05:46, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

The locked control point showing up "Waiting for a teammate" is a bit of code taken directly from DOD:S. I'm not sure which game copied the other though. I think this would be a good trivia note. Hell-met 16:34, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

Lots of bits of source games are re-used in others - sound effects, textures, all sorts. Not noteworthy trivia, unfortunately. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 19:21, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

Can someone confrim this?

When Monoculus destroys a sentry, does engineer shout "sentry down!"? GreenEarth28 09:56, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

Very technically, he should. I can't see why he wouldn't, as I don't expect he is programmed not to. Kazzymodus 10:10, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

No, I mean that sometimes I respawn, Monoculus destroys my sentry (as I noted there is no kill icon) and engineer doesn't say anything. GreenEarth28 10:18, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

Damage done by being in the underworld

While in the underworld, all players take periodic damage which ignores any invulnerability buff they may have, be it Bonk, a regular Uber, or even the 'Uber' granted by escaping the underworld. Should that be mentioned? Adreadline 10:53, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

We're discussing this presently on the Eyeaduct talk page. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 12:25, 1 November 2011 (PDT)

Angry?

What does it mean he's now angry? Bujeebus 16:11, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

He now fires rapidly all the time, rather than only when hit by crits. --Piemanmoo 16:13, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

Max level

So I've been testing the new Level system for the Monoculus on my idle server (205.204.75.195:27016) using a Monoculus Spawner plugin. So far we've gotten him up to Level 14. I'm gonna keep spawning him until he stops levelling up. At level 14 it's a pain in the arse to kill him. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 19:43, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

Ok so I went and installed this plugin to give myself a Rocket Launcher with a +1000000% damage bonus attribute, and started repeatedly spawning the Monoculus, then killing him. I've got him at Level 46 so far, and I have a feeling I'll be hitting Level 100 in the next hour or two. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 21:35, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

Well, needless to say, I don't think there's a maximum level that the Monoculus can reach. I've gotten him up to Level 106, and he continues to keep levelling up. Most attacks do a tiny sliver of damage and he seems to be able to take out anything with his eyeball rockets. The more you know! 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 22:12, 2 November 2011 (PDT)

I used a HHH spawner plugin in conjunction with a Monoculous spawner plugin, and found that the HHH will one-hit kill Monoculous when he spawns under the control point, where the HHH enters his idle state. I left this going for about an hour and found that the rank seemed unable to advance when it hit level 1696, so i propose this is the absolute max. Ness199X 21:47, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Well there is no predefined max level in the game, so perhaps there was a bit of a glitch. You could've tried changing the map (which doesn't affect Monoculus' level, I know this because I too run servers with both the HHH and Monoculus spawner plugins) then spawning and killing the Monoculus manually. Regardless, your info shouldn't go on the article simply because it's based only on your testing and should attempt to be duplicated to see if it really stops when it hits 1696. I do use a custom weapon plugin so I'll give myself a huge damage-bonus, rapid-fire, no-reload Righteous Bison and set up an auto-key script to automatically spawn the Monoculus and kill him myself. I've got tomorrow off from work so I'll be starting this tomorrow. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 21:54, 9 November 2011 (PST)

Sandman

If I were to hit a baseball at MONOCULUS, would it get stunned or would it just start shooting at me? The Seabear 15:59, 3 November 2011 (PDT)

As far as I can tell it does no damage at all - it certainly doesn't stun it. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 17:25, 3 November 2011 (PDT)

Rocket related achievements

I have seen MONOCULUS grant heavies the Crock Block achievement. I think this applies to Hot Potato and Hotshot for the pyro as well, but haven't been able to confirm those. BadWolf 10:27, 5 November 2011 (PDT)

Figured out the max level.

Was checking out the various events in TF2 for SourceMod scripting purposes and saw this:

"eyeball_boss_summoned"
        {
                "level" "short"
        }

Therefore, the max level for the Monoculus is Level 32767. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 02:46, 11 November 2011 (PST)

Or 65535 if they're using an unsigned short. Someone set up SRCDS, we shall test this! -RJ 02:57, 11 November 2011 (PST)

Already been tested using the Monoculus spawner plugin on my server. Level does not increase after 32767. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 03:10, 11 November 2011 (PST)

"Affected by"

Can anyone edit this list out of the ID board? Just under his damage.

It makes no sense to list a handful of random unlocks where most have on-hit effects (which have never worked on even the HHH)

If anything, simply list "Critical hits", "mini-crits", "on-hit effects", "projectiles", "bullets", "sentry guns", "headshots" and "backstabs"

If not, can anyone tell me where to find the box template?. I'll try doing it myself. The Horsemann page also needs this fix. Hell-met 12:05, 12 November 2011 (PST)

I agree that we need to get rid of the info, however that's going to be really hard. Currently, both the HHH page and this page use Template:Hazard infobox. However, you cannot edit out the "Affected by" portion of that template, as the template more than likely is being used on other pages where the info is needed. If I were you, I'd ask an admin about the possibility of using a different infobox for this page and the HHH page. Just remember; don't edit the info out of the Hazard infobox template. Someone more than likely will undo your edit because you shouldn't remove random info from in-use templates. I'd hate to see you get in trouble just for something small like this. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 12:24, 12 November 2011 (PST)

Thanks for the response Hell-met 21:13, 12 November 2011 (PST)

Why?

I pointed out that when monoculus destorys a sentry, no destruction icon of Monoculus killing the sentry gun shows up. why was it removed? its true... GreenEarth28 12:55, 14 November 2011 (PST)

Check the page history. Your addition seems to have taken place around November 1st, so you may want to check each historical version of the page until you find the version where it's been removed. Then you can see what the editor's reason for removing it was. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 12:59, 14 November 2011 (PST)

It's here. Looks like it was deleted by mistake, either that or no reason was given. Either way, I think it can be added back, unless there's a genuine reason it was deleted.
» Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 13:27, 14 November 2011 (PST)

Hmm...well it depends on whether or not it's a legitimate bug. I'd add it back though. 404: User Not Found ^(talk) 15:14, 14 November 2011 (PST)

hhh monoculus suicide

i added the fact about monoulus and hhh counting as suicide kill can you explain why you thought it wasnt noteworthy --Iaindude 04:40, 28 November 2011 (PST)

Because what you added isn't trivia. At best, it is a bug with your death and the wrong kill icon being displayed. Trivia deals with references to things outside of TF2, not display errors. SS2R 04:57, 28 November 2011 (PST)

So i can put it into bugs then?--Iaindude 04:58, 28 November 2011 (PST)

I made a video demonstrating the monoculus/demoman voice

So I was recently looking through my old youtube videos, and remembered I posted this[1] nearly a year ago. Anyway, it occurred to me that it was sorta informative, and maybe I should offer it to you guys. Normally I would just post it on the article, but it's clearly not made with wiki in mind, and it lacks the clean-cut professionalism of your weapon demonstration videos. Plus the videos are probably required to be posted under and official account to prevent Shenanigans. All the same, feel free to post it, use it for your own video, copy it, print out screengrabs and sleep with it, whatever. --Wellgolly 15:45, 4 September 2012 (PDT) (although you should probably alert me if you need me to make it public)

Can some one explane why it is the RED Demo man's eye.

If the Red Demo man's eye is the Monoculus then how comes the BLU Demo man also has one eye? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Patricksbarnard (talk) • (contribs)

It is a characteristic of the Demoman to have one eye. Monoculus is part of the Bombinomicon comic, it so happened that the RED Demoman was featured, and not the Blue. DC64 (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2014 (PDT)

Watch GNoggin's video on the clone theory (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0XpuJYaJtEc) for a reasonable explanation until Valve explain the BLU team's existence. User:Rainbowsnivy (Talk with me) 08:09, 8 July 2014 (PDT)

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