Talk:Strange

Good god, a strange weapons page! Hooray! Problem 10:17, 25 September 2011 (PDT)

Do taunt kills from the Sandman, Flare Gun, Eyelander, Knife and Conniver's Kunai add to their counters? Pwnator 01:54, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

Multi character use

I think there should be a note as to whether the counter carries over for weapons that are shared between multiple classes. For example, lets say I get 1000kills with the pistol on my engie, then I equip the pistol on my scout. does it maintain the counter? Nibelhim 09:42, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

I'm fairly certain it does. If you want, I can check. I have Strange Shotgun. I'll go do it now. --NobleSkull :D - 10:09, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

Got kill with Strange Shotgun and looked at it as Engineer. On all classes, it was 22, then 1 kill with it as Soldier, had 23 on Heavy, Engineer, Pyro and Soldier. --NobleSkull :D - 10:17, 28 September 2011 (PDT)

Humiliation

Do kills during humiliation count? I haven't tested it yet; if someone knows it he should add the information. LeGenD`RaGe 13:08, 13 October 2011 (PDT)

Humiliation kills count, but I think that's sort of a given since points are still awarded during Humiliation. RagnarHomsar 13:09, 13 October 2011 (PDT)

Notes section on counter types.

This section is already ugly, and is only going to continue to get worse as Valve adds more counters. I propose this section be removed in place of listing the counters attached on the availability list. ~ Ath (talk) 08:55, 19 October 2011 (PDT)

10 000 kills?

I notice there is no information about the final rank, so does that mean that nobody who comes here has reached it or are we not allowed to discuss it? I'm almost half-way there with my Minigun.--Katz 13:54, 19 October 2011 (PDT)

There is a rank defined at 10,000 kills I believe but it's not implemented. —Moussekateer·talk 14:00, 19 October 2011 (PDT)

Strange Kritzkrieg

This ranks up on kill assists and not Ubers like the Medigun. Mine is at Midly-Menacing with 45 assists and 17 Ubers. I noticed when it ranked up without me deploying an Uber. Also the kill assist count is displayed on top, with the ubers below in parantheses. My backpack. http://www.tf2items.com/id/drblutengott Dr. Blutengott 18:55, 19 October 2011 (PDT)

No Longer Announced Via Alert

So apparently Strange Ranks are no longer 'alerted' on the server when someone reaches it. It just shows up in the chat-feed but not as an actual alert, is that right? Did the Manniversary Update do that? ☢ Ѵєяɩτѧѕ ☢ 17:51, 22 October 2011 (PDT)

Yes, yes it did. Fyahweather 21:24, 22 October 2011 (PDT)

Strange Holy Mackerel

The strange fish has a difference to the other strange weapons that I've seen - rather than saying 'Kills: xxx' it says 'Humiliations: xxx' (see here for screenshot). Should this be added to the trivia page for the Holy Mackerel? Avon 10:40, 24 October 2011 (PDT)

Does it count a "humiliation" as a kill, or just a hit with the fish? » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 03:26, 25 October 2011 (PDT)

A kill, any situation that would cause a kill with the normal fish (i.e. triggering the dead ringer doesn't count). Avon 13:04, 25 October 2011 (PDT)

Probably not notable then. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 15:07, 25 October 2011 (PDT)

Strange Gunslinger

Does it rank up based on Mini Sentry kills instead of the actual Gunslinger melee? Trying to figure out why it's so bloody expensive. It has to be something more than "Only in the Salvaged Crate" Spy Master Kaze 21:36, 3 November 2011 (PDT)

The other strange wrenches rank up on Sentry kills, so the Gunslinger probably does too. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 21:50, 3 November 2011 (PDT)

It has EVERYTHING to do with the crate it is in. Like the Jag, the rankings increase based on Sentry gun kills. Both, however, do track melee kills as well, but they do not progress the rank. SS2R 23:41, 3 November 2011 (PDT)

Degreaser link is wrong.

The link in the table for strange items is wrong for the Degreaser. I tried to figure out how to change it but I can't seem to do it. It points to the backburner page currently. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nagrom 17 (talk) • (contribs)

Thanks for the heads up, it's now fixed. -- Pilk ^(talk) 04:05, 4 November 2011 (PDT)

Counter Description

What happened to the section explaining the counters which don't track kills (i.e. Medi Gun tracks Ubercharges, Wrench tracks Sentry kills)? That was genuinely useful information and should still be here. I also think it's worth mentioning that the Chargin' Targe only counts shield-bash kills and not melee kills using the targe's crit. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 05:27, 4 November 2011 (PDT)

I removed it because it was reaching an absurd level of bloatedness. As I said in the edit summary, that sort of information should be listed in the availability table. Not in the article body. ~ Ath (talk) 10:09, 4 November 2011 (PDT)

This is still an issue - nowhere on the Wiki does it explain that some counters on Strange weapons don't track kills. I've noticed that the Strange Southern Hospitality tracks melee kills instead of Sentry kills like the other wrenches - this is pretty useful information to have. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 13:40, 2 December 2011 (PST)

I don't know how it was implemented before, but let's add this info back. It's absolutely significant, and the list just keeps getting more complicated as new items come out. Maybe it should be in a separate article with a list that looks like the Equip regions list. Thoughts? --Fashnek 13:43, 2 December 2011 (PST)

That doesn't really work. I've tried something else - re-arranging the current table to order the items in terms of their counter types. Take a look at what I've done here. I think there's potential, though obviously it will need to be shrunk down, and needs some colour and formatting work. I'm not really an expert on these kinds of tables and am struggling a bit, so any help would be appreciated. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 15:38, 4 December 2011 (PST)

How about this? It's just a quick mockup I did, but it keeps the current table's formatting and adds the counter information in a fairly concise way. Alcarithemad 00:38, 11 December 2011 (PST)

Great - much simpler and neater than mine at least. Can I suggest you make the main counter (i.e. the one that ranks the weapon up) in bold?
» Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 04:59, 11 December 2011 (PST)

I hadn't thought of that. It's much better than saying it in the footnote. I also don't know how to apply localization to it like the rest of the template has. Alcarithemad 05:17, 11 December 2011 (PST)

I kind of disagree with Cooper's suggestion. As long as the rank progressing counter is listed first, it's quite simple see what is primary and what is secondary. SS2R 05:28, 11 December 2011 (PST)

Destructions ?

Do destructions of Engi's buildings add kills to s. revolver ? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nouthghule (talk) • (contribs) 19:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what would make the Revolver different from other Strange weapons, but... I don't think so. I guess Strange weapons only track players killed, unless they have a secondary counter.  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 12:04, 21 November 2011 (PST)

Stranges being dropped?

I remember in a LONG time when I played TF2 that I have received my first strange (Eyelander) via a random drop! Is it possible that strange weapons can VERY rarely be dropped? Nephyte 12:02, 30 November 2011 (PST)

 Nope 12:37, 30 November 2011 (PST)

Nope? Huh... that's strange... the only crates that I've opened are the coolers during the Summer Camp sale (only twice), and only out of them came hats. Nephyte 16:25, 30 November 2011 (PST)

Ridiculous. No one else has ever reported such a thing. You might have lagged out of the game and traded, or opened a crate. Fyahweather 16:34, 30 November 2011 (PST)

Spirit of Giving

Since it is technically a Strange item, sharing text colour and the ranking-up behaviour, I've added it to the article. It seems silly to have one orange-text item not included here, just because its level 0 blocks "Strange" with "The" as a prefix. Having said that, I expect some people to disagree, so discuss away! rebmcr 06:53, 24 December 2011 (PST)

Strange Feeding Server(s)

There had been a server that cropped up under the name "Mighty's Strange Feeding/Idle Server" which later changed into "Dark's Strange Feeding/Idle Server". I wonder if this is OK with Steam and not bannable if you play in such a server. So far it is the only one of its kind. And it is now classified as Dead. Theodoremk 10:54, 30 December 2011 (PST)

You won't get banned for playing in that server. It's just the name. Typically, friendly fire is on and both spawns are accessible by both teams. And only one? Negative. http://www.game-monitor.com/search.php?search=strange&game=tf2&location=US SS2R 11:00, 30 December 2011 (PST)

Sometimes I run a (private) Strange feeding server that is way more effective. Obviously I wouldn't run it if I actually thought anyone would get in trouble for using it. I highly doubt Valve cares what you do with your Strange weapons. – fashnek _(talk·c) 11:03, 30 December 2011 (PST)

Strange Quick-Fix

The Strange Quick-Fix ranks up by Ubers not assists only had 7 ubers and 50+ assists and was still named strange. Chaosblades 16:31, 5 February 2012 (PST)

New Stranges (crate 39)

New Strange Loch-n-load, Strange Overdose and... doesnt seem to be any new ones.