Talk:Ghastly Gibus/Archive 1

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Limited vs. Non limited

While I can see your point Seb, the original release of the Gibus was limited, with only 10319 being released, with each being numbered (Even though it doesn't show in game), thus I believe limited is viable. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 21:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

You can still dominate a player today and earn a gibus if you haven't already got one. It's not really limited at all. seb26 [talk] 21:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I am aware of that. And yet the original numbered Gibuses are limited to a number of 10319, which is precisely what limited means. A specific number are released. Just because more can derive from the original number make the original no less limited. Do you see? -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 21:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I see, but when you glance at the infobox and see "limited", then glance back at the rest of the article and see that it says you can still earn the Gibus by dominating a player who owns one... And since both the numbered and unnumbered Gibuses are exactly the same bar the hidden number... Yes, technically, the Gibus was "limited", but now it no longer is. The rest of the article reflects this and so should the infobox. seb26 [talk] 21:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Limited & Unlockable? --Firestorm 21:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Limited is misleading. Unlockable is what it should be. A trivia note in the article mentioning it was originally limited to 10,000 could be added, but that should suffice. seb26 [talk] 21:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

This is a truth. I guess for glancing factor, Unlockable should remain, no point in removing the Category as it is limited too. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 21:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

The above does not make it any less Hatty. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 21:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Category:Hats is added by the infobox & the hat nav. seb26 [talk] 21:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I needinfo on something

I've dominated 5 or 6 people with the hat on, but I don't get it. Please help. --TheChaosLord977 18:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

• Hello? Anyone there? --TheChaosLord977 20:32, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Can someone help me? Please? --TheChaosLord977 21:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Sadly, no. -- Vi3trice _(talk) 21:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

This is not a forum. Please don't try to "bump" your question to try and get a response. If you are looking for an immediate reply to your question, try the official SPUF. As for your question, all we know is what the Wiki page says. It may warrant further testing to see if it has been patched out, but for now to the best of my knowledge it still works. It's always possible that you're doing it wrong. -- -- 21:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Don't know if it's true, but I saw an interesting theory on SPUF today: that you can only get the Gibus through this achievement if you dominate a person wearing one of the original 10,319 Gibuses. Again, not sure of the validity. Dzjudz 01:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

If that were true, there would be far fewer of them around. -- -- 01:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Merge

It seems the 'Ghastly Gibus' no longer exists and is now called the 'Ghastlier Gibus'. RIP. Moussekateer 03:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Does "Ghastly Gibus" really no longer exist, or is "Ghastlier Gibus" just slang for "Vintage Ghastly Gibus"? Toomai Glittershine 03:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Toomai hit the nail on the head. – Smashman _(talk) 03:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah good point, I hadn't thought of that. So then the Ghastlier Gibus page should redirect to this page and explain the name? Moussekateer 03:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

There should be separate Ghastly Gibus and Ghastlier Gibus pages because they're different items. Steviestar3 04:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Dteviestar3. Leoholbel 05:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, if it's like Toomai said, I think it'd be better merge the Ghastlier Gibus into the Ghastly Gibus page. No need for two separated pages.--Kid Of The Century 08:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with merging. Is it possible that new players (those who didn't have the Gibus in '09 or before this event) can still get the regular Ghastly Gibus? If so, it should not be merged. Sven

Let's do this properly...

Discussion started 28 October 2010, discussion will end 4 November 2010.

Discuss using  Approve,  Oppose and  Neutral below.

--RJ 16:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

 Oppose They're separate items. -RJ 16:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

 Oppose Assuming we're voting on the merge, not the move, then yes, they are two distinct items and each deserves its own page. -- -- 16:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

 Oppose For the reasons above. -- OluapPlayer _(t) 17:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

 Oppose If they looked the same then I would have agreed, but they look different so it's not just a matter of a different name. Moussekateer 18:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

 Oppose Sperate items deserve seperate pages Raptorbones 04:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

 Oppose They have a different model and a different name. They are not the same item and they shouldn't be treated as such.--Jordan 11:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

 Info Well I think that's already enough opposes after only one day. Merge won't happen. -RJ 16:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Ghastly Gibus Facts

The fact in the article that says Gibuses found in 2009 is wrong. I joined in 2010 and mine got upgraded as well. Raptorbones 09:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

+1. Supported by my own achievements list (got it July 2010): http://steamcommunity.com/id/pragmatic/stats/TF2?tab=achievements. Command/Control-F "grab". NSCoder 11:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I think both those occurrences happened because VALVe probably meant: "Any gibus' before the update" OllyTheMann 11:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Get the Ghastly Gibus?

Is it possible to get a Ghastly Gibus by dominate a player that wears the Ghastlier Gibus? SuperMario12 22:17, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Gift Wrap?

from several resources iv'e seen it would seem the item is not able to be gifted. can someone confirm or deny this? if it's true then the article would need to be changed to avoid mis-information HyenaDip 08:02, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

floating Gibus

Why does the Gibus look like it's floating above the sniper's head? --Waffleman 19:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

These discussion pages are for talking about the content of this article, not the game. —Moussekateer·talk 20:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Get the Gibus Back?

About a week or so ago, I upgraded from Free 2 Play to the regular account. Prior to that, my extremely small backpack was being a pain for forcing me to delete an item for every new one I found. As a result, I (purposely) deleted the Ghastly Gibus I got as an achievement item. Now that I've got plenty of space, I want it back. Can I simply dominate someone wearing a Ghastly Gibus to get another one, or am I out of luck? Superfield 11:06, 18 August 2011 (PDT)

Hi Superfied, I'm sorry to say but the Tf2 Wiki is not really the appropriate place to be asking such a question. The talk pages of articles are really more for discussions about the contents of the article rather than personal questions about the item. A question like this would be better suited to the Steam User Forums Team Fortress 2 section. I myself do not know the answer to your question, but I'm sure somebody there would. Alternatively, why not just try dominating someone with the Gibus yourself? I have the suspicion that you won't get the Gibus again though, as you already have the Achievement. -Mr. Magoolachub 11:13, 18 August 2011 (PDT)

He can't re-earn the Gibus like that. So, he'd be left with two options; live without the Gibus, or contact Steam Support and see if they can be of some help. ~Sven 22:28, 12 March 2012 (PDT)

Social Stigma

I play tf2 quite a bit, and I have noticed their is a large social stigma attached to the gibus. Due to it being obtainable by free to plays, the relative ease of obtaining the hat, and the fact it is often one of the only hats free to plays have, many players assume players with this hat are free to play noobs, and some people often consider this "the" noob hat. I personally feel like this is a major part of the hat, and think it might be worthy of mention in the article. Calq 21:05, 12 March 2012 (PDT)

No real reason to add anything about that, since its just opinion and not a fact. Mpnov 21:09, 12 March 2012 (PDT)

Mkay, just thought I'd mention it b/c it's a fairly widespread opinion.Calq 22:10, 12 March 2012 (PDT)

Player opinions really don't have a place in this wiki, so you shouldn't add it.--Iamgoofball 22:13, 12 March 2012 (PDT)

Isn't this no longer obtainable?

Isn't the Ghostly Gibus the hat you get when you achieve "Ghastly Gibus Grab", as of the Spectral Halloween Special? So shouldn't we add something to the page stating that it can not be obtained through the achievement anymore, though it was at one time obtainable?

TheNoobThatWas 16:08, 8 May 2013 (PDT)

jay-bus or gib-us?

This page says gibbus the others say jaybus. How the Hell are you supposed to pronounce this stupid thing? Please give me aources, too. ErnieTheGreatest (talk) 07:42, 6 November 2013 (PST)

Two things. One, Keep discussions in a more less formal matter. (No swears/insults). Second, By common sense its Gibus (Gib-us). Unless others pronounce their G's as a J, we go by common sense in the english language. Ashes (talk) 15:25, 6 November 2013 (PST)~~

It's pronounced "jahy-buhs." Source: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/gibus I'm going to alter the pronunciation guide on this page to reflect the actual word. LordExor (talk) 23:01, 27 March 2017 (PDT)

Inaccessible trivia but I want to put it somewhere: This hat's internal IDs are a recursive pun from Valve

This is dev-specific trivia but I like the foresight that someone at Valve had to do it. So I'm going to put it here:

In the Steam asset system, every item in your inv has an asset class instance. Which is a top level version of that item (and what's in your backpack are the assets themselves).

Each of these items has an app ID, a class ID and an instance ID.

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Team Fortress 2 has app ID 440

The first item in the TF2 asset system is the Ghastly Gibus. The first class ID is 4.

The first instance ID of a given class is the base version of that item, which is 0.

If you take each of these individual IDs in their hierarchal order (app -> class -> instance) and composite them you get 440 4 0.

Taking this as an acronym, you get 440.

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I can't tell if this was intentional or not. But starting an index at 4 rather than 0 seems like a specific choice.

In other words. This hat - which is quite hat these days I understand, 12 years and many styles in - defines TF2. -- Lagg 18:54, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

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