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| − | Err...I don't know if this is really apporpriate for a page, as we try to keep controversies out of the wiki. I see you put a lot of hard work into it, so I think the rest of the staff ought to voice whether or not to keep it.--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] {{mod}} 22:39, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Eh, marked for deletion: Not helpful, fuel for controversy, lack of neutral tone, writing style, etc. Sorry. -[[User:The Neotank|<font color="#FF8C00">'''The Neotank'''</font>]] ({{mod}}<small> | [[User talk:The Neotank|Talk]]</small>) [[File:User The Neotank Signeotank.jpg]] 23:04, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I don't like this at all – we're not covering controversies now? I disagree that the page requires a full article, however, I don't see why there cannot be at least a section on [[Cheater's Lament]] explaining the controversy. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 04:15, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Unless reasonable opposition appears soon, I say we delete this. -[[User:The Neotank|<font color="#FF8C00">'''The Neotank'''</font>]] ({{mod}}<small> | [[User talk:The Neotank|Talk]]</small>) [[File:User The Neotank Signeotank.jpg]] 22:58, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == suggestion ==
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| − | "With the onset of the recent Polycount Update, anyone who used SteamStats back before it was patched now received a Cheater's Lament." - this should also indicate that some accounts, that did not receive the first drop, and active only after SteamStats occured, also recieved the Cheater's Lament.[[User:Nooch|Nooch]] 22:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | However, this piece of information has nothing to do with idling, and everything to do with the Cheater's Lament. File it there, not here. [[User:Subtlefuge|Subtlefuge]] 23:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==My reasoning==
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| − | As long as a controversial subject is maintained to be as unbiased as possible, I think it should be allowed. I wrote the page so many newer players can learn what idling is and not begin to think bad thoughts about other players without knowing the full story. Every other day a thread pops up on the forums about idling and the cheater's lament because nowhere really gives unbiased information about both idling in general and the event surrounding it.
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| − | I really wanted to keep it as unbiased as possible, hence why I avoided popular terms like "Halocaust", so any body who just wants to learn can see what happened and why. Sorry if it caused any unrest. [[User:Darthz01|Darthz01]] 23:00, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Keep / Delete ==
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| − | While the subject matter is something we should probably cover, this article is rather poorly written. Opinions? {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 23:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|x|Delete}} A poorly written can of worms that I don't think we should pop open. -[[User:The Neotank|<font color="#FF8C00">'''The Neotank'''</font>]] ({{mod}}<small> | [[User talk:The Neotank|Talk]]</small>) [[File:User The Neotank Signeotank.jpg]] 23:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::An idling page is a high risk page, lots of potential issues and almost guaranteed to be vandalized multiple times a week. I say we either scrap it completely or scrap the current page and rewrite it entirely. Either way, it should probably be locked once a satisfying result is met. Yes it's a can of worms, but it's one that's already popped open. I just wonder if it's not mentioned here, where will people be getting their information about it? --[[User:Subtlefuge|Subtlefuge]] 02:11, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
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