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| − | == Sorting out these infoboxes ==
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| − | ===Global or individual===
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| − | Quoting my to-do list:
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| − | :{{c|comment}} We have fragmented infoboxes that are shared among items (hat infobox being used for misc items)... one central infobox or truly seperate infoboxes need to be implemented.
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| − | I believe it's time to get started with this. I want this discussion to be used to decide which approach we should take for infoboxes: An individual infobox for each type of item OR A global infobox.
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| − | Stick your arguments for / against below, use {{c|approve}} or {{c|oppose}} to label the context of your comment under each section:
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| − | ''I'm trying to keep neutral in this discussion, so I'll just add some example opinions on each as I think of them.''
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| − | <br>[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 16:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | '''Individual infoboxes'''
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| − | *{{c|oppose}} Individual infoboxes would be a pain to update if there's an item-wide attribute change. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 16:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | '''Global infobox'''
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| − | *{{c|approve}} Only one place to edit global attribute changes. All the attributes for items would have to be within the item's article - no infobox defaults.
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| − | *{{c|approve}} I stated this earlier and I think it should occur. {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 18:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | *{{c|support}} For the same reason Smashman points out. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 00:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | *{{c|approve}} Some items may have a lot of similarities, and yes, separate infoboxes are complicated to update them all. [[User:Shock394|Shock394]] 03:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :''Discussion started 21/10/10. Discussion will end 28/10/10. (1 week).''-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 16:55, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | {{Discussion header|bottom}}
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| − | {{c|Info}} Nobody voting for ''Individual infoboxes'' after 4 days, I think we can consider a ''Global infobox'' the agreed solution. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 17:34, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ===Infobox attributes===
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| − | This will list all of the current attributes categorised according to their exclusivity toward types of item, feel free to add attributes that you think should be implemented. This list will be invaluable when it comes to authoring the infobox documentation.
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| − | ====Global====
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| − | *name-override
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| − | *NAME
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| − | *name
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| − | *image
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| − | *released
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| − | *contributed-by
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| − | *availability
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| − | *tradable
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| − | *craftable
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| − | *has-team-colors
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| − | *used-by
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| − | *item-name
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| − | *slot
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| − | *paint
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| − | *name-tag
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| − | *quality
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| − | *display-loadout-stats
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| − | *purchasable
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| − | *level-and-type
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| − | *att-1-positive
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| − | *att-1-negative
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| − | *att-1-neutral
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| − | *att-2-positive
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| − | *positive-attributes
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| − | *att-2-negative
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| − | *att-2-neutral
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| − | *att-3-positive
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| − | *att-3-negative
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| − | *negative-attributes
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| − | *att-3-neutral
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| − | *att-4-positive
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| − | *att-4-negative
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| − | *att-4-neutral
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| − | *att-5-positive
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| − | *att-5-negative
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| − | *att-5-neutral
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| − | *att-6-positive
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| − | *att-6-negative
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| − | *att-6-neutral
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| − | *item-description
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| − | *item-uses
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| − | *item-flags
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| − | *backpack-image
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| − | ====Hat====
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| − | ====Misc====
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| − | ====Weapon====
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| − | *skin-image-red
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| − | *skin-image-blue
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| − | *has-two-models
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| − | *TFC-model
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| − | *QTF-model
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| − | *is-censored
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| − | *kill-icon1
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| − | *kill-icon2
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| − | *kill-text
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| − | *dark-killnotice
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| − | *kill-icon3
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| − | *kill-icon4
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| − | *kill-icon5
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| − | *kill-icon6
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| − | *ammo-loaded
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| − | *ammo-carried
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| − | *reload
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| − | *reload-type
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| − | ====Tool====
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| − | === Drafting ===
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| − | I've started some stuff in my user space already, see [[User:Seb26/Item infobox]] and [[User:Seb26/Item infobox/1]]. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 06:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Ah brilliant. The next thing I'm doing to do is try and clean up the attributes list, see if some of them aren't really necessary. Something else has recently popped into my mind, and I'd like your opinion on it (especially as to whether it's logistically viable): Would it be possible to have an <code>Item infobox/core</code> that has all the infobox attributes for every weapon; and we'd only have to put <code><nowiki>{{Item infobox}}</nowiki></code> into the item pages? I think that would be useful when it comes to updates: There's only one place to make the volume of changes, and it makes the item pages themselves less complicated and intimidating for wiki novices. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 16:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Any implementation we could come up with would be, in my mind, largely inefficient. That being said I disagree with the idea of keeping them separate to begin with. Sure it's easier to update language pages, etc, but the added complication and confusion that it creates for newer users (figuring out why the figures aren't there on the page already, working out where they are stored instead, deciding whether to edit the sole values page at all in case something breaks [and this does happen]) – it's not worth it when you consider the amount of time and effort saved. On the subject of the infobox again, the draft I've been working on is almost complete but will need testing on several different types of pages (TFC, languages, taunts, other special cases). [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%;">[talk]</span>]] 04:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
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