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| − | While I can see your point Seb, the original release of the Gibus was limited, with only 10319 being released, with each being numbered (Even though it doesn't show in game), thus I believe limited is viable. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 21:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :You can still dominate a player today and earn a gibus if you haven't already got one. It's not really limited at all. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] <span style="font-size:95%;">[[User talk:Seb26|[talk]]]</span> 21:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::I am aware of that. And yet the original numbered Gibuses are limited to a number of 10319, which is precisely what limited means. A specific number are released. Just because more can derive from the original number make the original no less limited. Do you see? -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 21:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::I see, but when you glance at the infobox and see "limited", then glance back at the rest of the article and see that it says you can still earn the Gibus by dominating a player who owns one... And since both the numbered and unnumbered Gibuses are exactly the same bar the hidden number... Yes, technically, the Gibus was "limited", but now it no longer is. The rest of the article reflects this and so should the infobox. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] <span style="font-size:95%;">[[User talk:Seb26|[talk]]]</span> 21:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::: Limited & Unlockable? --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 21:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Limited is misleading. Unlockable is what it should be. A trivia note in the article mentioning it was originally limited to 10,000 could be added, but that should suffice. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] <span style="font-size:95%;">[[User talk:Seb26|[talk]]]</span> 21:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | This is a truth. I guess for glancing factor, Unlockable should remain, no point in removing the Category as it is limited too. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 21:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :The above does not make it any less Hatty. -- [[User:Smashman|Smashman...]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:Smashman|t]] • <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.steamcommunity.com/id/smashman2004 s])</span></sub> 21:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::[[:Category:Hats]] is added by the infobox & the hat nav. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#0B61A4">'''seb26'''</font>]] <span style="font-size:95%;">[[User talk:Seb26|[talk]]]</span> 21:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == I needinfo on something ==
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| − | I've dominated 5 or 6 people with the hat on, but I don't get it. Please help. --[[User:TheChaosLord977|TheChaosLord977]] 18:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | *Hello? Anyone there? --[[User:TheChaosLord977|TheChaosLord977]] 20:32, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | **Can someone help me? Please? --[[User:TheChaosLord977|TheChaosLord977]] 21:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Sadly, no. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 21:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::This is not a forum. Please don't try to "bump" your question to try and get a response. If you are looking for an immediate reply to your question, try the official [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80 SPUF]. As for your question, all we know is what the Wiki page says. It may warrant further testing to see if it has been patched out, but for now to the best of my knowledge it still works. It's always possible that you're doing it wrong. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|link=User:Alex2539]] -- 21:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Don't know if it's true, but I saw an interesting theory on SPUF today: that you can only get the Gibus through this achievement if you dominate a person wearing one of the original 10,319 Gibuses. Again, not sure of the validity. [[User:Dzjudz|Dzjudz]] 01:38, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::If that were true, there would be far fewer of them around. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|link=User:Alex2539]] -- 01:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Merge ==
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| − | It seems the 'Ghastly Gibus' no longer exists and is now called the 'Ghastlier Gibus'. RIP. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 03:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Does "Ghastly Gibus" really no longer exist, or is "Ghastlier Gibus" just slang for "Vintage Ghastly Gibus"? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 03:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Toomai hit the nail on the head. – [[User:Smashman|<span class="mod">Smashman</span>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{mod}} 03:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Ah good point, I hadn't thought of that. So then the [[Ghastlier Gibus]] page should redirect to this page and explain the name? [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 03:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::There should be separate Ghastly Gibus and Ghastlier Gibus pages because they're different items. [[User:Steviestar3|Steviestar3]] 04:15, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::I agree with Dteviestar3. [[User:Leoholbel|Leoholbel]] 05:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Uhm, if it's like Toomai said, I think it'd be better merge the Ghastlier Gibus into the Ghastly Gibus page. No need for two separated pages.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 08:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Let's do this properly...
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| − | :''Discussion started '''28 October 2010''', discussion will end '''4 November 2010'''.
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| − | :Discuss using {{c|approve}}, {{c|oppose}} and {{c|neutral}} below.
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| − | ::--[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 16:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|oppose}} They're separate items. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 16:51, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|oppose}} Assuming we're voting on the merge, not the move, then yes, they are two distinct items and each deserves its own page. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|link=User:Alex2539|Alex2539]] -- 16:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|oppose}} For the reasons above. -- [[User:OluapPlayer|<font color="red">'''OluapPlayer'''</font>]] <sub>([[User_talk:OluapPlayer|t]])</sub> {{adm}} [[File:User OluapPlayer Sig.png|Howdy, pardner!]] 17:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|oppose}} If they looked the same then I would have agreed, but they look different so it's not just a matter of a different name. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 18:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|oppose}} Sperate items deserve seperate pages [[User:Raptorbones|Raptorbones]] 04:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|oppose}} They have a different model and a different name. They are not the same item and they shouldn't be treated as such.--[[User:Jordan|Jordan]] 11:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Ghastly Gibus Facts ==
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| − | The fact in the article that says Gibuses found in 2009 is wrong. I joined in 2010 and mine got upgraded as well. [[User:Raptorbones|Raptorbones]] 09:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | +1. Supported by my own achievements list (got it July 2010): http://steamcommunity.com/id/pragmatic/stats/TF2?tab=achievements. Command/Control-F "grab". [[User:NSCoder|NSCoder]] 11:24, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I think both those occurrences happened because VALVe probably meant: "Any gibus' before the update" [[User:OllyTheMann|OllyTheMann]] 11:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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