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| − | {{c|info}} [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80 The TF2 forum exists], use it to discuss the item. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{mod}} 00:29, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Since the only Wiki Cap that ''isn't'' of Community rarity is the Self-made one NeoDement has, I feel it should be noted. [[User:Stevoisiak|Stevoisiak]] 10 November 2010
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| − | :I'd agree to this. Good bit of information to add to the page. [[User:StarYoshi|StarYoshi]] 15:23, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::{{c|x|No thanks}}. The infobox already says who it was contributed by. No need to cram it into the trivia as well. --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 20:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::{{c|Agree}} This is one interest information that should be noted. [[User:EpicEric|EpicEric]] 16:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::{{c|Agree}} I think this should be put in the trivia section. [[User:Gamazek]]
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| − | == trivial addition; M. Bison Homage ==
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| − | It seems that this hat ( Wiki cap) pays strong homage to the hat the M. Bison wears from the Street fighter series.Judging by the fact most hats that pay homage to some other fiction work not it in the trivia page. examples of this are the Whoopie Cap, the Tough Guy's Toque, and the the Respectless Rubber Glove.I also looked through the archives and saw that there was no definitive answer if it should be added [[User:Schrodingerscat|Schrodingerscat]] 03:30, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :It doesn't look all that close to the M.Bison cap. If anything, it's closer to an attendant-styled cap than M. Bison. Most make such a comparison due to the colors. --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 03:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::It is simply a peaked cap. M. Bison just so happens to also wear a peaked cap. They are a common and somewhat stereotypical headwear item of military officers and are not inherently attached to any on figure in particular. Unless you can find actual evidence besides the visual similarity between the Wiki Cap and M. Bison's hat that the two are connected, the trivia should NOT be added. If it is a guess or an assumption, it is not trivia. -- [[Image:User Alex2539 Sig.png|47px|link=User:Alex2539|Alex2539]] - {{mod}} <sub>([[User_talk:Alex2539|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Alex2539|contribs]])</sub> -- 06:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | you can say it looks like m bisons hat because its the same color and the golden eagle seen on m.bison's was replaced with the team fortress cross hair logo but its not that much of a direct reference to m.bison but like alex said theres no proof otherwise[[User:Tt3socal|Peter Antonio Filippis]] 01:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Nope I would say it looks like a train conductors hat IMO. [[User:KingSloth|KingSloth]] 21:27, 08 July 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == trivial addition; Dutch Railway cap ==
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| − | The global view of the wiki cap; has a strong resemblance to the hat used by the Dutch Railway personell. (link to example of Railway cap : [http://friesecultuur.nl/thema/beroepen/machinist_2.jpg The Dutch Railway Cap] ) Unknown if there is any reference to it when it was created; it does look quite similar. Your opinion on if it needs to be added [[User:FoOz|FoOz]] 10:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : As the article states, it is just a stereotypical {{w|peaked cap}}. Peaked caps are used in many professions, not just for Dutch railways. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#507D2A;font-weight:bold;font-family:
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| − | Put it in there since I can't! (No that ''isn't'' what she said) --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 07:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Just curious, there's a Question-mark for Team Spirit paint under the Wiki Cap. My question is this: Does Team Spirit paint affect hats that already change color based on team, and if so, should we leave an "X" or something there to denote whether or not you can even get that hat? It's a nit-pick, but it sort of looked to me as if "there is this sort of hat out there, but we don't have an image yet." [[User:StarYoshi|StarYoshi|]] 21:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :An image has yet to be retrieved. There is no attribute that prevents specific paints from being used. [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 21:08, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Pretty sure we're still working on the Team Spirit color for the hats. The procedure we use to get hat colors differs from the norm, so it's on standby. [[User:Fendermcbender|Fendermcbender]] 21:09, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Okie-doke. Just checking. [[User:StarYoshi|StarYoshi]] 21:29, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Receiving the Hat ==
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| − | How is this hat received in the game?iKnow 05:30, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :It's received through standard drop once it is given to a person. The game will alert you that you have a new item. -- [[User:Krizzle 0|Krizzle 0]] 05:34, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Yes but would you have link your account or tell them your name first? [[User:KingSloth|KingSloth]] 21:30, 08 July 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::A staff member will approach those that they believe qualify. – [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 15:17, 8 July 2013 (PDT)
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| − | Id like to see how the hat looks like on each class. Anyone have pictures of that? [[User:Hilarious Pill|Hilarious Pill]] 10:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)Hilarious Pill
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| − | :<strike>I'll throw up a gallery of HLMV mugshots.</strike> It seems I have no idea how to remove default class headwear in HLMV, and clipping issues aren't good. So, I support this, but someone else will have to do it. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 10:37, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Neo said the version in mdlviewer was wonked up as it didn't work properly. And to remove headgear of classes, you go to the Model tab, click on the first list button (Should say the class name) and find its hat, be it helmet or cap or whatever. Then pick Submodel two. Its gone, tada! But yeah, it being an all class item means its a one-size fits all thing, meaning its not going to fit well with the other classes, like Scout, due to weird clipping. --[[User:Vaught|<span style="text-shadow:pink 0px 0px 3px;"><font color=" #FFA6C9"><tt><big>'''Vaught'''</big></tt></font>]]</span> 11:00, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::I've added individual pictures (or tried) for most of the classes. I will fix the transparency issue later. [[User:Axel|Axel]] 18:35, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::::The badges all seem to be the wrong color. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:36, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :::::Oh, that's odd. Those are the badges in the files I had. Either way. I'm adding transparent versions of the pictures now. [[User:Axel|Axel]] 19:15, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::::::I tried adding transparent ones because they didnt seem like they were, but it still says they are not transparent even though I'm 100% sure they were made transparent. [[User:Axel|Axel]] 19:23, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | == How to get the Wiki cap discussion ==
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| − | If some one no how to get the wiki cap, write it down here. <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Sortbrun|Sortbrun]] ([[User talk:Sortbrun|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Sortbrun|contribs]]) </small>
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| − | You can see the guidelines here: [[Team Fortress Wiki:Wiki Cap guidelines]]. Also please sign all your comments with <nowiki>"~~~~"</nowiki> when adding to a discussion.[[User:Scatmanjohn|<b><sup>Scatman</sup> <sub>John</sub></b>]][[File:User_Scatman.png|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Scatmanjohn|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Scatmanjohn|Contrib]])</small> 15:58, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Isn't there a "Learn how to earn one here" bit on the main page? [[User:StarYoshi|StarYoshi]] 22:39, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Nope, that's been removed due to the fact that the cap has been out for a while now. --[[File:User Firestorm Flame.png]] [[User:Firestorm|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}}</span> 23:08, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Straight from the Wiki Cap article itself... "The Wiki Cap is awarded to valuable contributors to the Official Team Fortress Wiki. Learn how to earn one [[Team Fortress Wiki:Wiki Cap guidelines|here]]."
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| − | /discussion -- [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] [[File:User_Psychopath_avatar.png|16px|link=User_talk:Psychopath]] 23:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Perhaps we should make that bold --[[File:User Firestorm Flame.png]] [[User:Firestorm|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}}</span> 23:21, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Or you could just have a notice at the top of the page like the poker night trivia notice [[User:Scatmanjohn|<b><sup>Scatman</sup> <sub>John</sub></b>]][[File:User_Scatman.png|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Scatmanjohn|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Scatmanjohn|Contrib]])</small> 23:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::: That's a bit large for such a minor thing. --[[File:User Firestorm Flame.png]] [[User:Firestorm|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}}</span> 23:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::: Fair point, it would probobly be best just to make it bold then [[User:Scatmanjohn|<b><sup>Scatman</sup> <sub>John</sub></b>]][[File:User_Scatman.png|25px]] <small>([[User talk:Scatmanjohn|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Scatmanjohn|Contrib]])</small> 23:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::It's got an entire section dedicated to it. Anyone who can't see that is blind -- [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] [[File:User_Psychopath_avatar.png|16px|link=User_talk:Psychopath]] 23:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::I have to agree with Psychopath. I mean, you just even search for 'How to get the Wiki Cap in TF2' and the guidelines are the sixth result so it isn't exactly hidden information. [[User:Sentry|Sentry]] 00:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | One person is in the list of potential candidates for 2 or 3 weeks. He is just spamming with useless edits and reverting the other edits. Also he is inadequate and talking with him does not nothing. Here it is - [[User:Romalien|Romalien]]. Please, disqualify him. [[User:Shiz0|Shiz0]] 14:24, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :The list is not final, its more of a gauge to tell how well an individual is doing. The admins have the final say in every hat decision. Spam will never get a cap. [[User:Natemckn|Natemckn]] 14:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::The list is just a reference generated by windpower. -- [[File:User Swordz Swordz.png|25px]][[User:Swordz|<span style="color:#70B04A;font-size:13px;font-family:
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| − | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><u>Swordz</u></span>]]{{mod}}[[File:User Swordz Swordz.png|25px]] <span style="font-size:10px">([[User talk:Swordz|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Swordz|contribs]])</span> 14:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I don't think you should put this in a discussion. Next time I suggest you tell an admin in seceret. Thespy 04:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Correct. This is not the place to make those kinds of comments. If you feel there is an issue, please get in touch with one of the [[Help:Group_rights|admins]]. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 04:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | http://www.tf2items.com/id/Romalien He got a wiki cap, so he must of been doing something right. [[User:Just a Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]] 07:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::What's the use of restarting a discussion concluded last december ? Furthermore, Romalien maybe did for some time some spam, but he did some great jobs on the russian translation before that, and did great again after... We don't award the Cap to farmers and spammers, but it's never said anybody can't change and start being useful again. [[File:Killicon_ambassadorhs_unused.png|50px|link=User:Tturbo]] [[User:Tturbo|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Tturbo</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Tturbo|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Tturbo|C]])</sub></sub> 15:25, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | it says on getting wiki cap to do so many edits but the edits do they include talk pages and adding photos or not --[[User:Iaindude|Iaindude]] 12:05, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | If adding some useful - High Quality photos for some Articles , that count , however edits on the talk pages do not count here and it will not give ya some score .--– [[User:Gin_Ginster|<font color=#A57545>'''''Gin_Ginster'''''</font>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Gin_Ginster|talk]])</sub> 12:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
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| − | It is suggested however, to post on talk pages frequently, as discussion about an article's content can still lead to improvements overall, as well as lending legitimacy to your edits and making you a more active member and therefore more eligible to the humans who decide who gets the cap. [[User:Bandit Stache|Bandit Stache]] 14:06, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Okay, after awhile with editing and translating the english and norwegian TF Wiki parts I feel like its no use to get on the Candidate List. I really put efford and thinking about the community but it's just not good for em' at all. Im not saying "Please, put me on the List!" but Im just sick of translating by myself and dont have any others to help me.. As this leads up to, I will not going to ask more then this: Can you guys just tell the exact guideline to me as an translator and dont put up so many huge contributors (even they deserve the Cap) all too often? [[User:Ravecrib9t4|Ravecrib9t4]] 20:16, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :I'm sorry, but your edits were insufficient (not by far) for your name to appear on the list. We can still consider you for voting if you'd like, but there are, as you mentioned, other "huge contributors" (each of them putting quite a lot of effort too) which have not received the cap yet, and who probably will before you.
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| − | :Part of your problem seems to stem from the lack of other Norwegian translators. I think the best thing you could do is to recruit other Norwegian speakers you know. Recruitment, while it doesn't "count for points" on the list, is still a great contributing factor, and it would also make editing the Norwegian pages more fun. Editing the wiki by yourself is no fun, so we appreciate your work so far~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 01:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::WInd, thank you for the advise. But so far as i know, the other registrated Norwegians has just given up or been lazy. I dont think i can either find anyone to help me so I can do one simple thing to get me up there alone: Contribute alot of stuff so the name appears abit more then earlier :3 Also, if and i say '''if''' the others come back to the Wiki for editing, then I'll hope they will help out. BTW: Can you earn more by making a article that doesnt exist on the Wiki? Cuz i got one [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Ravecrib9t4/LifeExtenderMachines here] that I made...[[User:Ravecrib9t4|Ravecrib9t4]] 04:49, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::: Remember: never give up. Vulturas, one of the Cap owners was alone, too, but he still got it. <b>[[User:DrAkcel|<font FACE="Arial" color="#41627E">DrAkcel</font>]]</b> <sup>([[User_talk:DrAkcel|<font FACE="Arial" color="#25587E">T</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/DrAkcel|<font FACE="Arial" color="#25587E">C</font>]])</sup> 04:51, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::::One main problem is that between translators, the numerical competition is harsh. DrAkcel for instance had to wait a bit before receiving it because some more active translators (and not farming ones) were before him. We try to keep everyone on mind but with translators it's harder. [[File:Killicon_ambassadorhs_unused.png]] [[User:Tturbo|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#476291 ">Tturbo</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Tturbo|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Tturbo|C]])</sub></sub> 17:02, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::To answer the last question, yes you do earn more points for creating new articles. However, the one you linked to is in your userspace (User:Ravecrib9t4/articlename), so it has not been counted. For it to count, you'd have to create it in the main article space (which you can still do right now). I don't know if life-extending machines deserve their own articles though, or if that should instead be merged as a section of some storyline page... But you can still go ahead and create the article, it'll be merged if needed — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
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| − | I just have a few image-related questions about this article. Foremost, why isn't there a gallery of images with every class wearing the cap yet? I know we have quite a few talented image makers... It even seemed as though it was getting a bit of progress there for a bit. I'm guessing the hat just positions badly in HLMV? Is that a problem everyone has with it?
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| − | :It's impossible to correctly position the hat in HLMV, is what I heard. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:32, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :: So it'd just be impossible, then? No one that's really handy with Photoshop can use the replay feature to take a nice screen cap in slow motion and edit the edges a bit? --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 18:39, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::: I was wondering if maybe manually reposition it in a plain white backgroun Garry's Mod map or something. I'm not sure what the quality would be like with such a solution though. There has to be a work around for this problem. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:42, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | ::::Surely there's no-one more capable of making these images than the people who have this hat anyway? Why can't one of them find a map with a white wall and have a friend take screenshots or something? '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 02:59, 27 July 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Hey by the way, Demoman's gallery image is the old broken one. Need a new image with fixed version.[[User:Shadowcon66|Shadowcon66]] 03:45, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
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| − | Recently I noticed that there were many inaccuracies within the "Template:Dictionary/price" list regarding hat prices, so I did a massive edit and corrected them all in one go. Will this count as multiple edits since I changed the prices of many hats within the section, or does it only count as one edit since they're all on the same list?
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| − | I don't really care since I'm more in this to improve the Wiki than score a Wiki Cap, but since I'm doing this anyway I figured I'd check and ask a question that could prove useful to those who do seek the Wiki Cap. [[User:Blk Mage Ctype|Blk Mage Ctype]] 11:59, 17 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : It won't count as multiple edits, but edit count doesn't matter that much anyway. What really matters is edit quality, and that sounds pretty quality to me. Nice work. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 12:00, 17 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :: When a user is put up for nomination for a wiki cap, we will look at many of your edits to determine your candidacy for the cap. If we see 500 really good edits like the one you made, it will be much better for you than 2000 partial edits. --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 12:01, 17 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | : Thank you very much for the help and for your compliments, glad I could help to make the Wiki better. [[User:Blk Mage Ctype|Blk Mage Ctype]] 13:32, 17 August 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Most wiki cap recipients are translators. What exactly does one need to do in order to get a wiki-cap without being a translator. There's not really any major things someone can do...<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:DracoX872|DracoX872]]''' ([[User talk:DracoX872|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/DracoX872|contribs]]) 17:59, 12 September 2011</small>
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| − | :I am not a translator and I have plenty to do, I suggest you look over the task list. Also you shouldn't edit for the sake of the hat, you should be editing because you want to :) [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 15:06, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | :: Look through the list of recipients, most of the owners edit or did edit the English part of the Wiki. It's certainly not impossible to get it now. There's always work to be done, pages that need editting, images that need uploading and stubs to fill out --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 16:45, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | I think we should lock this page to prevent from 'Blank the Page" spammer. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png]] [[User:Hinaomi|Hinaomi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 01:56, 17 December 2012 (PST)
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| − | :That's not necessary, this article isn't being constantly vandalised more so than any other article. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 04:24, 17 December 2012 (PST)
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| − | value should make more hats like this because its gets people attention to joining tf2 wiki and value profits from it
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| − | <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Inventivepython|Inventivepython]]''' ([[User talk:Inventivepython|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Inventivepython|contribs]]) </small>
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| − | : The hat has no value as it can't be sold. Secondly, profiting from this hat isn't allowed. And third, This page is about the article, Not about distribution or other things. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 16:54, 22 May 2014 (PDT)
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| − | true but can value make more hats like this= like going through the internet and obtain the item
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