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: [[Decorated]] quality color. — The preceding assigned comment was added by '''[[User:Tark|Tark]]''' '''{'''[[User talk:Tark|Finish Him!]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/Tark|Contribs]]'''}''' 11:55, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
 
: [[Decorated]] quality color. — The preceding assigned comment was added by '''[[User:Tark|Tark]]''' '''{'''[[User talk:Tark|Finish Him!]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/Tark|Contribs]]'''}''' 11:55, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::I'm well aware of the Decorated quality, but the tags on a Batsaber such as [http://steamcommunity.com/id/scoottehbesht/inventory/#440_2_4195670078| mine] show that it is instead of [[Normal]] quality. All the other Invasion reskins appear as [[Unique]] quality, so it'should safe to say that this is not supposed to be. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 14:34, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
 
::I'm well aware of the Decorated quality, but the tags on a Batsaber such as [http://steamcommunity.com/id/scoottehbesht/inventory/#440_2_4195670078| mine] show that it is instead of [[Normal]] quality. All the other Invasion reskins appear as [[Unique]] quality, so it'should safe to say that this is not supposed to be. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 14:34, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
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::: Well, congratulations, you're the unique person with the Normal quality ([http://stats.tf/item/30667/Batsaber stats.tf] info). And it's not notable as bug (because only one item was affected, your.) — The preceding assigned comment was added by '''[[User:Tark|Tark]]''' '''{'''[[User talk:Tark|Finish Him!]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/Tark|Contribs]]'''}''' 15:17, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
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::::I'm still not sure that's the case, the other Batsabers on the Comm. Market are also of the Normal quality. Till there's more proof I'll refrain from posting it, though. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 17:12, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
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:::::From the [[October 8, 2015 Patch|latest patch]]: <code>Updated Batsaber to use the 'unique' base quality</code>
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:::::: Uhmm yeah, really sorry about that, I forgot that these third party sites are not as reliable. — The preceding assigned comment was added by '''[[User:Tark|Tark]]''' '''{'''[[User talk:Tark|Finish Him!]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/Tark|Contribs]]'''}''' 04:41, 9 October 2015 (PDT)
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== Normal Quality Batsabers in Available Qualities ==
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All Batsabers unboxed before the [[October 8, 2015 Patch]] were mistakenly unboxed as [[Normal]] quality. That was how they were uncrated for two days, right at the start of the Invasion Update, and ones unboxed during that period have stayed that way. Should Normal quality therefore be listed in the Available Qualities box for the Batsaber, given that it ''was'', at one point, available in that quality officially, even if it was as a mistake?
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We have, for reference to a similar topic, kept the [[Corpse Carrier]] being noted as a possible Strange quality item, even after it was removed from the Crimson Cache Case, by noting that it was only available as a Strange item within that case. I'd argue that a similar thing should be done for the Batsaber, where it is listed as being available in Normal quality, alongside a tooltip saying that it only applies to ones unboxed before the aforementioned patch. It would then extend to the Normal quality article's item table, as well. — [[File:User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png|30px|link=User:ThatHatGuy]] [[File:User ThatHatGuy Signature Talk.png|30px|link=User talk:ThatHatGuy]] [[File:User ThatHatGuy Signature Contribs.png|30px|link=Special:Contributions/ThatHatGuy]] 05:43, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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:{{Con}} I personally would consider the Normal quality variant a glitched item, since Valve did not intend for them to be unboxed with that quality, as we know, that quality is for stock weapons. Similarly, we don't list the Vintage quality the [[Bill's Hat]] or [[Max's Severed Head]], same rule could be applied to the Batsaber; there is no need to add the Normal quality in its infobox.
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:{{info}} As for the Corpse Carrier, we don't know the original intent of Valve when they released that item, perhaps originally it was intended to be released like any other cosmetic before they applied the Holiday restriction. Perhaps we should ask Eric or someone at Valve to confirm whether it was a mistake, or they had a change of heart last minute.
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:[[User:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Yossef'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Yossef|<font color="DB9C1F">'''Talk'''</font>]] 06:46, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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::The Corpse Carrier was intended as a normal cosmetic, but then turned into a Costume Piece. This was a bug, it should not be in the available qualities list.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:13, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

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Possible Batsaber Bug?

It appears non-strange Batsabers are dropping in the normal quality. Any idea if this should be listed on the page as a bug? Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 10:37, 8 October 2015 (PDT)

Decorated quality color. — The preceding assigned comment was added by Tark {Finish Him!Contribs} 11:55, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
I'm well aware of the Decorated quality, but the tags on a Batsaber such as mine show that it is instead of Normal quality. All the other Invasion reskins appear as Unique quality, so it'should safe to say that this is not supposed to be. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 14:34, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
Well, congratulations, you're the unique person with the Normal quality (stats.tf info). And it's not notable as bug (because only one item was affected, your.) — The preceding assigned comment was added by Tark {Finish Him!Contribs} 15:17, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
I'm still not sure that's the case, the other Batsabers on the Comm. Market are also of the Normal quality. Till there's more proof I'll refrain from posting it, though. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 17:12, 8 October 2015 (PDT)
From the latest patch: Updated Batsaber to use the 'unique' base quality
Uhmm yeah, really sorry about that, I forgot that these third party sites are not as reliable. — The preceding assigned comment was added by Tark {Finish Him!Contribs} 04:41, 9 October 2015 (PDT)

Normal Quality Batsabers in Available Qualities

All Batsabers unboxed before the October 8, 2015 Patch were mistakenly unboxed as Normal quality. That was how they were uncrated for two days, right at the start of the Invasion Update, and ones unboxed during that period have stayed that way. Should Normal quality therefore be listed in the Available Qualities box for the Batsaber, given that it was, at one point, available in that quality officially, even if it was as a mistake?

We have, for reference to a similar topic, kept the Corpse Carrier being noted as a possible Strange quality item, even after it was removed from the Crimson Cache Case, by noting that it was only available as a Strange item within that case. I'd argue that a similar thing should be done for the Batsaber, where it is listed as being available in Normal quality, alongside a tooltip saying that it only applies to ones unboxed before the aforementioned patch. It would then extend to the Normal quality article's item table, as well. — User ThatHatGuy Signature Icon.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Talk.png User ThatHatGuy Signature Contribs.png 05:43, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Pictogram minus.png  I personally would consider the Normal quality variant a glitched item, since Valve did not intend for them to be unboxed with that quality, as we know, that quality is for stock weapons. Similarly, we don't list the Vintage quality the Bill's Hat or Max's Severed Head, same rule could be applied to the Batsaber; there is no need to add the Normal quality in its infobox.
Pictogram info.png  As for the Corpse Carrier, we don't know the original intent of Valve when they released that item, perhaps originally it was intended to be released like any other cosmetic before they applied the Holiday restriction. Perhaps we should ask Eric or someone at Valve to confirm whether it was a mistake, or they had a change of heart last minute.
YossefTalk 06:46, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
The Corpse Carrier was intended as a normal cosmetic, but then turned into a Costume Piece. This was a bug, it should not be in the available qualities list.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:13, 26 February 2023 (UTC)