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| − | I think that the [[Jag]] should be edited in. [[User:SShaDOhsS|[] /shadow/sShaD'OhsS]] 20:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :It is not a official weapon. This Template only features official weapons, and not concepts such as [[Ludmilla]]. '''''[[User:Jeff Andonuts|<font color="#004F21">Jeff Andonuts</font>]]''[[File:User_Jeff_Andonuts_Signature.png | JEFF used Bottle Rocket!]]''' 03:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==Frying pan==
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| − | [[Frying pan]] should be added to soldier and demo weps [[User:Stripedy|Stripedy]] 00:46, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==Rocket Jumper?==
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| − | I think that the Rocket Jumper should be in the list. [[User:SShaDOhsS|[] /shadow/sShaD'OhsS]] 22:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | =="Craft" rather than "Drop"==
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| − | Could the word "Craft" be more appropriate than "Drop" in the sub-row? After all, all the unlockables are also obtainable by random drop, while the others (Pain Train, Homewrecker, etc.) can be crafted with a specific blueprint.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 07:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : Perhaps Craft/Drop -[[User:Firestorm|<font color=#FF6600><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></font>]] 07:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Makes it clearer, the ''Drop'' term is just what I made up when I ran roughshod over the template one night as well as all the weapon pages. --[[User:Org|Org]] 12:52, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Is it possible to make the chart a little cleaner? It's hard to distinguish what is an unlock, and what are drops/crafted. Perhaps alternating highlighted lines? The demoman's section, for example, is not easy to distinguish. --[[User:ManaTree|ManaTree]] 02:06, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Golden Wrench ==
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| − | [[Golden Wrench]] should be in "special" section, not "promotion". --[[User:SandeProElite|SandeProElite]] 21:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : It was promoting the Engineer update -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::''Promotion'' in the sense that it was given as a gift to promote the purchasing of a different product, like Bill's Hat for L4D2 and the Sam and Max weapons. I'll fix it up. [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:15, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: I understood the terminology. I wouldn't be a member of any wiki if I couldn't grasp such a thing. I was simply thinking of practicality. Regardless of the intention of the category, the Golden Wrench fits fine given the reason above. There's no need for a whole new category. -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:25, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I wasn't criticising you, it's just promoting the Engineer update seemed like a bit of a stretch with the term promotion. I went ahead and changed it anyway as it really is only minor. If there is a promotional melee weapon coming out then we'll just change it back. No hassle :) [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Ah I didn't mean to come across harsh in any way so I apologize if it did. Fair enough on the choice, but to further poke a dead horse as it were, I thought this might help:
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| − | "Promotion keeps the product in the minds of the customer and helps stimulate demand for the product. Promotion involves ongoing advertising and publicity" -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Also I owe you a smile. :) -- [[User:Benjamuffin|'''Benjamuffin''']] [[File:BenjamuffinSig.png|Om nom nom!]] 22:35, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::lol k. [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Unlock/Drop distinction intentional ==
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| − | I think we discussed previously that you don't "unlock" community made weapons therefore they get their own distinction as "drop" weapons. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 22:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :"Unlock" meaning through random drops, or through achievements, because it can work both ways. Distinguishing between weapons that can be unlocked through the latter seems unnecessary to me. It seems better to just keep all non-standard weapons together. Agree / disagree? [[User:Seb26|<span style="color:#A60000;">'''seb26'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Seb26|talk]]) 22:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::We've discussed this at length before. The consensus was to distinguish between them. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 22:44, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Yep, it's been discussed a lot before
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| − | :::*Unlock = Can be unlocked through achievements, dropped or crafted.
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| − | :::*Drop = Cannot be unlocked through achievements and must be either found or crafted. --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 00:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == "Craft" rather than "Drop" redux ==
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| − | Since it looks like the [[Weapons]] page, and the individual weapon pages have had the term 'Drop' changed to 'Craft', should this template be updated as well? --[[User:Org|Org]] 05:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == GRU/Showdown ==
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| − | According to the [[Gloves of Running Urgently]] page, it uses the Showdown taunt. Anyone want to add that in?--[[User:SAJewers|SAJewers]] 13:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Battalion's Backup ==
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| − | Backup, not Back-up. [[User:Erebus|Erebus]] 04:34, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Sets ==
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| − | Maybe we shoud add information about sets? [[User:AAT|AAT]] 15:00, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Demo's slots ==
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| − | The Stickybomb Launcher and its replacements are Primary Weapons despite being in slot 2 in-game. The inverse is true of the Grenade Launcher. Anybody with permission care to change it or grant me permission? [[User:Rebmcr|Rebmcr]] 12:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :We already went over this in the past and stuck with the former. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 12:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::In consideration of this issue (and in accordance with our [[Help:Style guide#Unique cases|Style guide]]) I've changed instances of "Primary" and "Secondary" to "Slot 1" and "Slot 2", respectively, when referring to lists of weapons that cover all classes. People can still use the terms "primary" and "secondary" for most individual cases, but when the terms apply to demoman or spy (which is the case for a table like this, which includes all weapons), Slot # is much less disagreeable and confusing. '''~[[User:G-Mang|G-Mang]]'''<small> ([[User talk:G-Mang|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/G-Mang|C]])</small> [[Help:Group rights#Content Administrators|<span class="admbg">a</span>]] 22:49, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::That's good. People that need to know whether they are primary or secondary for crafting can see the table on the crafting page anyway. Also, should we rename "Standard" to "Stock" since that's what Valve calls them now? [[User:MK|MK]] 04:57, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Polycount sub-row ==
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| − | I think that a Polycount sub-row would be useful. --[[User:Goozer|Goozer]] 13:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Not until more Polycount Packs will be released. [[User:Shock394|Shock394]] 22:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Sticky Jumper ==
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| − | I think the Sticky jumper is in the wrong group, supposed to be in the Craft Section. [[User:Shock394|Shock394]] 00:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == New PNatI Weapons ==
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| − | == "Standard" label ==
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| − | Ah, I pointed this out on the [[Talk:Weapons#Labeling_inconsistency|Weapons]] page itself previously; I didn't notice that the template shared the labeling issue. For the sake of consistency throughout the wiki, I propose that the 'Standard' label be changed to 'Stock', so that it does not contrast with the likes of the [[Weapons]] page and individual weapon pages. [[User:Disaster|Disaster]] 00:08, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :They changed it due to Valve always refer them as Stock. [[User:Shock394|Shock394]] 04:55, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Lugermorph is in, but Iron Curtain and Enthusiast's Timepiece is Not ==
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| − | Both of those are technically promotional items as well, as they are given through the purchase of a game and progress in the game, similar to that of the Alien Swarm Parasite. Should they be added to Heavy's and Spy's Promotional weapon unlocks?
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| − | :Lugermorph and Big Kill are already ingame whereas the ones you listed are NOT. [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 05:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::The Lugermorph is currently in the game though, we should wait for the official release of the other two weapons, also, Don't forget to sign each post with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:Nixshadow|Nixshadow]] 05:11, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
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