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*It provides several items for TF2 directly through gameplay | *It provides several items for TF2 directly through gameplay | ||
--[[User:STUART|STUART]] 23:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | --[[User:STUART|STUART]] 23:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:Again, all of which are covered by other articles. There is a reason this article didn't exist until you made it. [[User:FlotsamX|FlotsamX]] 23:14, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | :Again, all of which are covered by other articles. There is a reason this article didn't exist until you made it. [[User:FlotsamX|FlotsamX]] 23:14, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::Once the game comes out on Monday there will be information unique to the game that won't fit on those articles. It deserves a stub as much as [[Source Filmmaker]]. --[[User:STUART|STUART]] 23:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | ::Once the game comes out on Monday there will be information unique to the game that won't fit on those articles. It deserves a stub as much as [[Source Filmmaker]]. --[[User:STUART|STUART]] 23:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Considering how close the release is, and the fact that the items JUST got added to the game files, I'd say at least leave it here to be expanded on after release. --[[User:Wing Dairu|Wing Dairu]] 02:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | Considering how close the release is, and the fact that the items JUST got added to the game files, I'd say at least leave it here to be expanded on after release. --[[User:Wing Dairu|Wing Dairu]] 02:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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{{c|support}} It's been discussed already, Poker Night is to be a passing mention on the Heavy's page and the items currently have their own articles. | {{c|support}} It's been discussed already, Poker Night is to be a passing mention on the Heavy's page and the items currently have their own articles. | ||
There's really no need to be creating a page when it's already been said that there won't be one. Unless the admins change their mind, I support deletion. [[User:Satorifan|Satorifan]] 04:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | There's really no need to be creating a page when it's already been said that there won't be one. Unless the admins change their mind, I support deletion. [[User:Satorifan|Satorifan]] 04:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:{{c|support}} No need for an article about a separate game. It's not a TF2 game. It is simply borrowing assets. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 04:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | :{{c|support}} No need for an article about a separate game. It's not a TF2 game. It is simply borrowing assets. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 04:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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{{c|support}} I don't see a point, we might as well create a page for L4D, worms and anyother game if we're going to have article for poker night [[User:Drakaenae|Drakaenae]] 04:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | {{c|support}} I don't see a point, we might as well create a page for L4D, worms and anyother game if we're going to have article for poker night [[User:Drakaenae|Drakaenae]] 04:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:{{c|neutral}} While I see your point no class was a main character in those games. --[[User:Jordan|Jordan]] 06:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | :{{c|neutral}} While I see your point no class was a main character in those games. --[[User:Jordan|Jordan]] 06:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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{{c|support}} I'm all for delete this, unless we find out it brings some more relevant information about TF2's world that can justify a specific article. Which, honestly, I highly doubt. Let's wait some days.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 08:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | {{c|support}} I'm all for delete this, unless we find out it brings some more relevant information about TF2's world that can justify a specific article. Which, honestly, I highly doubt. Let's wait some days.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 08:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:{{c|support}} i don't think we need this. the folk over at the homestar runner wiki don't have an entry. so i don't quite think we need one either [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]] 17:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | :{{c|support}} i don't think we need this. the folk over at the homestar runner wiki don't have an entry. so i don't quite think we need one either [[User:HyenaDip|HyenaDip]] 17:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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{{c|support}} With a link to the wikipedia, we dont need to make an article for this game. [[User:Sr Domi|Sr Domi]] 23:13, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | {{c|support}} With a link to the wikipedia, we dont need to make an article for this game. [[User:Sr Domi|Sr Domi]] 23:13, 20 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{c|oppose}} I am in favor of having a Poker Night page in the wiki. | ||
+ | The page does not have to be all inclusive of every detail of the game, that is the ground of the TTG wiki. We can have general information regarding the game and why it is relevant to TF2. (Heavy Weapons Guy) I suggest this page should be, more or less, a landing page where the other wiki's characters can be '''linked''' to. <br>I do, however, agree with previous sentiments that Poker Night is not our game, so we should not parent the information. We should instead support the game, because there are some facts that we can not avoid: | ||
+ | *The Heavy Weapons Guy is a character from our game. | ||
+ | *The TF2 development team is also supportive of Poker Night. | ||
+ | *Homestarrunner and Sam & Max wikis both have pages regarding Poker Night. (This is not saying, "They are doing it we should too!" But rather stating that we could appear non-supportive of the game.) | ||
+ | **http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory | ||
+ | **http://www.samandmax.net/wiki/Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory | ||
+ | – [[User:Shawnathan|Shawnathan]] <small>([[user_talk:Shawnathan|talk]])</small> 14:55, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{c|support}} Its a game thats not TF2, this is a TF2 wiki. It should not be here [[User:Natemckn|Natemckn]] 14:01, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{c|support}} per [[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]]. --[[User:Leftism|Leftism]] 14:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{c|oppose}} There's a bunch of non-canon TF2 stuff and backstory in Poker Night. If we only focus on the Heavy's role, it wouldn't be unrelated. Have pictures of Heavy's board, maybe pictures of his deck, stuff like that. I know I'm curious what Heavy's table in the game looks like, and this would be the spot I would assume to find this information [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 15:09, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{c|neutral}} The Heavy and the items from the game are the only things really tying PNatI to TF2; if nothing else, I think that a subsection could be devoted to this in the Heavy's article along with information such as encounters the Heavy has had in-game with other TF2 characters (nothing really specific though). [[User:ButteredToast|ButteredToast]] 15:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{c|oppose}} It's relevant. Who cares if it's a separate game, so is TFC, but it shares traits with TF2, so does this, even more so than Tfc in some ways since it is tied into TF2's drop system. What harm is there in having the page? | ||
+ | [[User:Crap|Crap]] 15:41, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | {{c|oppose}} Many gaming wikis have articles on the Smash Bros. series if they're represented in it; this is a very similar situation. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] 16:57, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
== A question on the characters == | == A question on the characters == | ||
*uhh , i don't know if this would go right here to ask this but the other places specified don't seem to cover it; but what I'm asking is this, do the characters seem to anyone like they have their own poker play style? I find the Heavy to be like a "act first think later" kind of player, and Strongbad to be a "Wild Card" of sorts. I just want to know if anyone notices this in the game...?--[[User:Awesome Weegee|Awesome Weegee]] 11:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | *uhh , i don't know if this would go right here to ask this but the other places specified don't seem to cover it; but what I'm asking is this, do the characters seem to anyone like they have their own poker play style? I find the Heavy to be like a "act first think later" kind of player, and Strongbad to be a "Wild Card" of sorts. I just want to know if anyone notices this in the game...?--[[User:Awesome Weegee|Awesome Weegee]] 11:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ** Quite a few people have noticed that on the various forums. No idea if it's article-material though.--[[User:Jetamo|Jetamo]] 11:07, 24 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == Responses == | ||
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+ | May I suggest we make a page something like... Heavy Poker Night responses? So we could document all the stories etc. --[[User:Jetamo|Jetamo]] 11:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | :Until we hear otherwise, Poker night is non-canon. Any dialogue from it doesn't belong on the wiki. But feel free to compile them on a talk page if you want, I've seen some people do that. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 11:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == Content from Poker Night == | ||
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+ | I have successfully extracted all the content from the .ttarch files of Poker Night, including textures, voices, music, etc. Since this is Telltale property, I am assuming unless otherwise specified or ok, we should not be using this content on the wiki? [[User:Ventus|Ventus]] 19:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | : Alright, I currently found all the music in OGG Vorbis format. The voice files for the character's lines are in .vox files, which if I found right, are to be WAV + transcript (essentially, the subtitles). Once I figure that out, I'll convert all the lines of the Heavy first. All the .vox files are randomly named, so finding an exact situational voice clip (i.e. where Heavy talks to Strong Bad as Tiny Heavy) may be difficult. [[User:Ventus|Ventus]] 20:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | :: Glad to hear that. I really want to get some of those Heavy sound files, considering there hasn't been any new recorded heavy lines in over 2 years. --[[User:Stevoisiak|Stevoisiak]] 19:33, 27 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | : Can you get the files for all the other characters too? I need them for the Poker Night Wiki. [http://theinventory.wikia.com/wiki/Poker_Night_at_the_Inventory_Wiki here] [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 22:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | :: If you can come on IRC and contact myself (usually "ventu5" since freenode nick "ventus" is already taken) or Tele-viper, we can guide you guys through decrypting your files. If not, I already have all the music (in OGG) and voice files (4000 of them, which includes every character, in .WAV) packaged in a zip that I can privately link you in a message. I can also do the textures or models as well. You can also go to my userpage and friend me on Steam if you prefer it rather than IRC. <span style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:110%">'''— [[User:Ventus|<span style="color:#6699CC">ventus</span>]]|'''''[[User talk:Ventus|<span style="font-size:90%;color:#669933">talk</span>]]</span>'' 17:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | :::Could you PM them to me, thanks? Then I can add them to the PNatI with a similar settup to what we've got here with the responces pages. [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 20:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == Need some help here! == | ||
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+ | I was trying to add tables to the top of the character pages on the Poker Night Wiki but it looks pretty wonky. Can someone help me sort it out? [http://theinventory.wikia.com/wiki/Max Heres the page I need help with.] [[User:Guybrush20X6|Guybrush20X6]] 12:53, 18 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
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+ | == missing Ace Cards images == | ||
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+ | hi, i like these images of the poker cards, but there's still missing deck cards, the Ace cards, the ones with the A, can we put some images of those Ace cards [[User:Villager3056|Villager3056]] ([[User talk:Villager3056|talk]]) 04:22, 3 August 2014 (PDT) |
Latest revision as of 11:32, 12 June 2024
Contents
Deletion
Oppose This is related to TF2 for multiple reasons above and beyond other games that have had tie-ins in the past:
- It stars a character from TF2 in an active and integral role
- It provides several items for TF2 directly through gameplay
--STUART 23:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- Again, all of which are covered by other articles. There is a reason this article didn't exist until you made it. FlotsamX 23:14, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- Once the game comes out on Monday there will be information unique to the game that won't fit on those articles. It deserves a stub as much as Source Filmmaker. --STUART 23:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Considering how close the release is, and the fact that the items JUST got added to the game files, I'd say at least leave it here to be expanded on after release. --Wing Dairu 02:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Support: I'd say link to the wikipedia article like in Hammer Editor. There's nothing we can say about it that wikipedia won't. For the items we just leave the nav in there. --CruelCow (talk) 23:33, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Support It's been discussed already, Poker Night is to be a passing mention on the Heavy's page and the items currently have their own articles.
There's really no need to be creating a page when it's already been said that there won't be one. Unless the admins change their mind, I support deletion. Satorifan 04:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Support No need for an article about a separate game. It's not a TF2 game. It is simply borrowing assets. Moussekateer 04:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Support I don't see a point, we might as well create a page for L4D, worms and anyother game if we're going to have article for poker night Drakaenae 04:46, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Neutral While I see your point no class was a main character in those games. --Jordan 06:24, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Support I'm all for delete this, unless we find out it brings some more relevant information about TF2's world that can justify a specific article. Which, honestly, I highly doubt. Let's wait some days.--Kid Of The Century 08:12, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Support i don't think we need this. the folk over at the homestar runner wiki don't have an entry. so i don't quite think we need one either HyenaDip 17:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Support With a link to the wikipedia, we dont need to make an article for this game. Sr Domi 23:13, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Oppose I am in favor of having a Poker Night page in the wiki.
The page does not have to be all inclusive of every detail of the game, that is the ground of the TTG wiki. We can have general information regarding the game and why it is relevant to TF2. (Heavy Weapons Guy) I suggest this page should be, more or less, a landing page where the other wiki's characters can be linked to.
I do, however, agree with previous sentiments that Poker Night is not our game, so we should not parent the information. We should instead support the game, because there are some facts that we can not avoid:
- The Heavy Weapons Guy is a character from our game.
- The TF2 development team is also supportive of Poker Night.
- Homestarrunner and Sam & Max wikis both have pages regarding Poker Night. (This is not saying, "They are doing it we should too!" But rather stating that we could appear non-supportive of the game.)
– Shawnathan (talk) 14:55, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Support Its a game thats not TF2, this is a TF2 wiki. It should not be here Natemckn 14:01, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Support per CruelCow. --Leftism 14:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Oppose There's a bunch of non-canon TF2 stuff and backstory in Poker Night. If we only focus on the Heavy's role, it wouldn't be unrelated. Have pictures of Heavy's board, maybe pictures of his deck, stuff like that. I know I'm curious what Heavy's table in the game looks like, and this would be the spot I would assume to find this information Balladofwindfishes 15:09, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Neutral The Heavy and the items from the game are the only things really tying PNatI to TF2; if nothing else, I think that a subsection could be devoted to this in the Heavy's article along with information such as encounters the Heavy has had in-game with other TF2 characters (nothing really specific though). ButteredToast 15:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Oppose It's relevant. Who cares if it's a separate game, so is TFC, but it shares traits with TF2, so does this, even more so than Tfc in some ways since it is tied into TF2's drop system. What harm is there in having the page?
Crap 15:41, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Oppose Many gaming wikis have articles on the Smash Bros. series if they're represented in it; this is a very similar situation. Toomai Glittershine 16:57, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
A question on the characters
- uhh , i don't know if this would go right here to ask this but the other places specified don't seem to cover it; but what I'm asking is this, do the characters seem to anyone like they have their own poker play style? I find the Heavy to be like a "act first think later" kind of player, and Strongbad to be a "Wild Card" of sorts. I just want to know if anyone notices this in the game...?--Awesome Weegee 11:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
- Quite a few people have noticed that on the various forums. No idea if it's article-material though.--Jetamo 11:07, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Responses
May I suggest we make a page something like... Heavy Poker Night responses? So we could document all the stories etc. --Jetamo 11:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Until we hear otherwise, Poker night is non-canon. Any dialogue from it doesn't belong on the wiki. But feel free to compile them on a talk page if you want, I've seen some people do that. Moussekateer 11:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Content from Poker Night
I have successfully extracted all the content from the .ttarch files of Poker Night, including textures, voices, music, etc. Since this is Telltale property, I am assuming unless otherwise specified or ok, we should not be using this content on the wiki? Ventus 19:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Alright, I currently found all the music in OGG Vorbis format. The voice files for the character's lines are in .vox files, which if I found right, are to be WAV + transcript (essentially, the subtitles). Once I figure that out, I'll convert all the lines of the Heavy first. All the .vox files are randomly named, so finding an exact situational voice clip (i.e. where Heavy talks to Strong Bad as Tiny Heavy) may be difficult. Ventus 20:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- Glad to hear that. I really want to get some of those Heavy sound files, considering there hasn't been any new recorded heavy lines in over 2 years. --Stevoisiak 19:33, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- Can you get the files for all the other characters too? I need them for the Poker Night Wiki. here Guybrush20X6 22:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
- If you can come on IRC and contact myself (usually "ventu5" since freenode nick "ventus" is already taken) or Tele-viper, we can guide you guys through decrypting your files. If not, I already have all the music (in OGG) and voice files (4000 of them, which includes every character, in .WAV) packaged in a zip that I can privately link you in a message. I can also do the textures or models as well. You can also go to my userpage and friend me on Steam if you prefer it rather than IRC. — ventus|talk 17:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Could you PM them to me, thanks? Then I can add them to the PNatI with a similar settup to what we've got here with the responces pages. Guybrush20X6 20:59, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- If you can come on IRC and contact myself (usually "ventu5" since freenode nick "ventus" is already taken) or Tele-viper, we can guide you guys through decrypting your files. If not, I already have all the music (in OGG) and voice files (4000 of them, which includes every character, in .WAV) packaged in a zip that I can privately link you in a message. I can also do the textures or models as well. You can also go to my userpage and friend me on Steam if you prefer it rather than IRC. — ventus|talk 17:16, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Need some help here!
I was trying to add tables to the top of the character pages on the Poker Night Wiki but it looks pretty wonky. Can someone help me sort it out? Heres the page I need help with. Guybrush20X6 12:53, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
missing Ace Cards images
hi, i like these images of the poker cards, but there's still missing deck cards, the Ace cards, the ones with the A, can we put some images of those Ace cards Villager3056 (talk) 04:22, 3 August 2014 (PDT)